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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
I’m not complaining about the same schools winning everybyear. I’m complaining about their fan bases who whine that certain Regions shouldn’t get playoff spots because the bottom feeders of the leagues they dominate don’t get playoff spots. If they aren’t beating youse in the regular season they aren’t beating you in the playoffs either..
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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
Yes the vast majority of D2 isn’t NW Misery or Ferris Bueller State. The Haves are literally the exception at this level. In the past it meant they moved up.
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Originally posted by CatFan88 View PostGrand Valley State Regional
1. GVSU 35-10 vs 8.Bemidji St.
4. Truman St. 26-19 vs 5. Newberry
3. NW 34-10 vs 6. Lenoir Rhyne
2. CO Mines 45-21 vs 7. Limestone
1. GVSU 31-6 vs 4. Truman St.
3. NW 30-24 vs 2. CO Mines
1. GVSU 21-20 vs 3. NW
Ferris State Regional
1. Ferris St. 38-14 vs 8. CSU-Pueblo
5. W. Georgia 28-21 vs. 4. Wingate
3. Benedict 28-24 vs 6. VA Union
7. Emporia St. 33-24 vs 2. Indy
1. Ferris St. 37-20 vs 5. W. Georgia
7. Emporia St. 37-13 vs 3. Benedict
1 Ferris St. 33-21 vs 7. Emporia St.
Pittsburg State Regional
1. Pitt St. 36-7 vs 8. Notre Dame
5. MSU-Mankato 33-28 vs 4. Davenport
6. Harding 31-24 vs 3. Shepherd
2. Ouachita 31-24 vs 7. SVSU
1. Pitt St. 35-13 vs 5. MSU-Mankato
2. Ouachita 31-28 vs 6. Harding
1. Pitt St. 34-20 vs. 2. Ouachita
Angelo State Regional
1. Angelo St. 31-13 vs 8. Slippery Rock
5. Ashland 21-19 vs. 4. IUP
3. Delta St. 34-10 vs. 6. Assumption
7. Nebraska-Kearney 31-30 vs. 2. W. Florida
1. Angelo St. 27-10 vs 5. Ashland
7. Nebraska-Kearney 33-28 vs 3. Delta St.
7. Nebraska-Kearney 24-21 vs 1. Angelo St.
Semifinals
1. GVSU 27-20 vs 4. Nebraska-Kearney
2. Ferris St. 24-20 vs 3. Pitt St.
Championship
2. Ferris St. 24-21 vs 1. GVSU
* I think Massey Matchup has an abnormal thing for the MIAA and GLIAC.
Just sayin…
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Originally posted by Brandon View PostComplaints about the same schools winning every year ring hollow. The trend occurs in every level of college football.
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Originally posted by njmav1 View Post
There isn't a problem- as long as those schools are staying within the rules.
I can make the argument that a few schools dominate because the majority of schools in D2 football don't or can't maximize their financial commitment.
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Originally posted by CatFan88 View PostGrand Valley State Regional
1. GVSU 35-10 vs 8.Bemidji St.
4. Truman St. 26-19 vs 5. Newberry
3. NW 34-10 vs 6. Lenoir Rhyne
2. CO Mines 45-21 vs 7. Limestone
1. GVSU 31-6 vs 4. Truman St.
3. NW 30-24 vs 2. CO Mines
1. GVSU 21-20 vs 3. NW
Ferris State Regional
1. Ferris St. 38-14 vs 8. CSU-Pueblo
5. W. Georgia 28-21 vs. 4. Wingate
3. Benedict 28-24 vs 6. VA Union
7. Emporia St. 33-24 vs 2. Indy
1. Ferris St. 37-20 vs 5. W. Georgia
7. Emporia St. 37-13 vs 3. Benedict
1 Ferris St. 33-21 vs 7. Emporia St.
Pittsburg State Regional
1. Pitt St. 36-7 vs 8. Notre Dame
5. MSU-Mankato 33-28 vs 4. Davenport
6. Harding 31-24 vs 3. Shepherd
2. Ouachita 31-24 vs 7. SVSU
1. Pitt St. 35-13 vs 5. MSU-Mankato
2. Ouachita 31-28 vs 6. Harding
1. Pitt St. 34-20 vs. 2. Ouachita
Angelo State Regional
1. Angelo St. 31-13 vs 8. Slippery Rock
5. Ashland 21-19 vs. 4. IUP
3. Delta St. 34-10 vs. 6. Assumption
7. Nebraska-Kearney 31-30 vs. 2. W. Florida
1. Angelo St. 27-10 vs 5. Ashland
7. Nebraska-Kearney 33-28 vs 3. Delta St.
7. Nebraska-Kearney 24-21 vs 1. Angelo St.
Semifinals
1. GVSU 27-20 vs 4. Nebraska-Kearney
2. Ferris St. 24-20 vs 3. Pitt St.
Championship
2. Ferris St. 24-21 vs 1. GVSU
* I think Massey Matchup has an abnormal thing for the MIAA and GLIAC.
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Grand Valley State Regional
1. GVSU 35-10 vs 8.Bemidji St.
4. Truman St. 26-19 vs 5. Newberry
3. NW 34-10 vs 6. Lenoir Rhyne
2. CO Mines 45-21 vs 7. Limestone
1. GVSU 31-6 vs 4. Truman St.
3. NW 30-24 vs 2. CO Mines
1. GVSU 21-20 vs 3. NW
Ferris State Regional
1. Ferris St. 38-14 vs 8. CSU-Pueblo
5. W. Georgia 28-21 vs. 4. Wingate
3. Benedict 28-24 vs 6. VA Union
7. Emporia St. 33-24 vs 2. Indy
1. Ferris St. 37-20 vs 5. W. Georgia
7. Emporia St. 37-13 vs 3. Benedict
1 Ferris St. 33-21 vs 7. Emporia St.
Pittsburg State Regional
1. Pitt St. 36-7 vs 8. Notre Dame
5. MSU-Mankato 33-28 vs 4. Davenport
6. Harding 31-24 vs 3. Shepherd
2. Ouachita 31-24 vs 7. SVSU
1. Pitt St. 35-13 vs 5. MSU-Mankato
2. Ouachita 31-28 vs 6. Harding
1. Pitt St. 34-20 vs. 2. Ouachita
Angelo State Regional
1. Angelo St. 31-13 vs 8. Slippery Rock
5. Ashland 21-19 vs. 4. IUP
3. Delta St. 34-10 vs. 6. Assumption
7. Nebraska-Kearney 31-30 vs. 2. W. Florida
1. Angelo St. 27-10 vs 5. Ashland
7. Nebraska-Kearney 33-28 vs 3. Delta St.
7. Nebraska-Kearney 24-21 vs 1. Angelo St.
Semifinals
1. GVSU 27-20 vs 4. Nebraska-Kearney
2. Ferris St. 24-20 vs 3. Pitt St.
Championship
2. Ferris St. 24-21 vs 1. GVSU
* I think Massey Matchup has an abnormal thing for the MIAA and GLIAC.
Last edited by CatFan88; 01-02-2023, 06:06 AM.
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Did some simple calculations from metrics readily available online and calculated ratings to get top 32 teams (hate byes). This would be my PO format for now. All conferences accounted for. No independents made the top 32. Top 4 teams in order: 1. GVSU, 2. Ferris St., 3. Pitt St., 4. Angelo St.
Grand Valley State Regional
1. GVSU
8. Bemidji St.
4. Truman St.
5. Newberry
3. Northwest Missouri St.
6. Lenoir Rhyne
2. Colorado Mines
7. Limestone
Ferris State Regional
1. Ferris St.
8. CSU-Pueblo
4. Wingate
5. W. Georgia
3. Benedict
6. Virginia Union
2. Indianapolis
7. Emporia St.
Pittsburg State Regional
1. Pitt St.
8. Notre Dame
4. Davenport
5. Minnesota St.-Mankato
3. Shepherd
6. Harding
2. Ouachita Baptist
7. Saginaw Valley St.
Angelo State Regional
1. Angelo St.
8. Slippery Rock
4. IUP
5. Ashland
3. Delta St.
6. Assumption
2. W. Florida
7. Nebraska-Kearney
1st 4 out: 33. Ft. Valley St, 34. Mars Hill, 35. Fayetteville, 36. Kutztown.Last edited by CatFan88; 01-02-2023, 06:10 AM.
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Complaints about the same schools winning every year ring hollow. The trend occurs in every level of college football.
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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
The same 10 teams dominate so is there really a problem. What sone want on here is exclusion because they deem most of the division inferior. It feels like 1980’s South Africa…D2 Apartheid.
I can make the argument that a few schools dominate because the majority of schools in D2 football don't or can't maximize their financial commitment.
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Originally posted by Turbonium View Post
The schools must stay in business which is why the regions exist, why silo scheduling exists, why cost savings outweigh things that might make the overall product better. It's why not every school or conference can be fully funded. It's honestly why D2 football might not survive with how things are trending.
Think of all the schools that have moved up over the years. Only a few are dominant in the level they moved up to…most are just another face in the crowd.
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Originally posted by Turbonium View Post
The schools must stay in business which is why the regions exist, why silo scheduling exists, why cost savings outweigh things that might make the overall product better. It's why not every school or conference can be fully funded. It's honestly why D2 football might not survive with how things are trending.
I think D2 schools have decided to position themselves between the competitiveness of D1 and the scholastics of D3. I see nothing wrong with that and I don't think there's anything wrong with the (football) product.
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Originally posted by njmav1 View Post
Not sure what you mean by "staying in business." I don't think D2 football or basketball makes any money or ever has.
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