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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
Half of Region 3 was garbage too...the first round proved it.
Davenport isn't as good as you GLIAC fanboys make them out to be...just another warm body in the GLIAC...a two team conference. MIAA...two team conference. GSC - 3 team conference.
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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
I'm proving that a handful of school with fans totally full of themselves are the outlier in D2 and not the norm.
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Shepherd was only down 10-3 late in the second...Bagent got sacked, fumbled...Mines got the quick TD to make it 17-3 at the half. Got the opening kickoff in the second half...scored and the game got out of hand then.
The only thing that I see is garbage are the arrogant posts on here by fans of the outlier teams
Oh yeah...Not As Grand Anymore Valley is still only 1-6 vs IUP. They asked a really bad Edinboro team to play instead of us, then only asked us when they were desperate because they got stood up. I guess you should have asked us first and not as some stand in. So suck on that.
You sound like a Michigan fan going back to your record in the 80's and 90's lol.
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Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
I'm proving that a handful of school with fans totally full of themselves are the outlier in D2 and not the norm.
I don't know many people that think a fourth MIAA or GLIAC team should get in over any team from any other conference. At least this year, the second MIAA team was in real jeopardy of not making the playoffs and had to play the other toughest teams in the round of 16.
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Originally posted by KleShreen View Post
When two 2-20 basketball teams play against each other, they still produce competitive games against each other. Says a lot that your eventual regional champion, Shepherd, was only able to beat the worst team in the regional playoffs, New Haven, by 3, and then got steamrolled by an above average Colorado Mines in the semifinals.
Davenport isn't as good as you GLIAC fanboys make them out to be...just another warm body in the GLIAC...a two team conference. MIAA...two team conference. GSC - 3 team conference.
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Originally posted by KleShreen View Post
So you're proving that the entirety of SR1 is garbage? When a bunch of garbage plays a bunch of garbage, then it's going to be close. Two 2-20 basketball teams still produce competitive games against each other. Says a lot that your eventual regional champion, Shepherd, was only able to beat the worst team in the regional playoffs, New Haven, by 3, and then got steamrolled by an above average Colorado Mines in the semifinals.
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Shepherd was only down 10-3 late in the second...Bagent got sacked, fumbled...Mines got the quick TD to make it 17-3 at the half. Got the opening kickoff in the second half...scored and the game got out of hand then.
The only thing that I see is garbage are the arrogant posts on here by fans of the outlier teams
Oh yeah...Not As Grand Anymore Valley is still only 1-6 vs IUP. They asked a really bad Edinboro team to play instead of us, then only asked us when they were desperate because they got stood up. I guess you should have asked us first and not as some stand in. So suck on that.Last edited by IUPNation; 01-05-2023, 08:28 AM.
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Originally posted by IUPNation View PostLets look at the competitveness of games in each region from Round 1 of the Playoffs in each region...
Region 1 - Average margin of victory was 4.3 points
Ashland beat Fake Notre Dame by 7 points
Shepherd beat New Haven by 3 points
Slimey Pebble beat Assumption by 3 points
Region 3 (the supposed Region where everyone can destroy Region 1) - Average margin of victory was 33 points.
Northwest Misery beat Ouachita Baptist by 30 points'
Ferris Bueller beat Davenport by 34 points
Pittsburg Without The H State shut out Indy by 35 points
So...doesn't look like the bottom 3 of Region 3 was anywhere near competitive with the four headed monster.
Region 2 wasn't any better in Week 1 - Average margin of victory was 34 points
Wingate beat Virginia Union by 25
Delta State shut out Fayetteville State by 51
West Flori-duh (who was horribly ranked regionally) beat Limestone by 26
Region 4 was pretty much the same story but not as bad - Average margin of victory was 20 points
Bemidji State beat Winona Judd State by 24
Mines beat Pueblo by 19
Minnehaha State beat Wayne State by 17
So...I'm not going to buy that all these mid pack teams in other conferences would roll everyone.
The reality of D2 is that there are a handful of team that are legit to win the title and the rest are only going to possibly win their conference and get a playoff bid in 2,3, and 4 and Region 1 is really the only balanced region where a higher percentage of teams actually have a shot to make it to the regional finals.
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Round 3
Region 1
Shepherd beat IUP by 35 (rematch game where IUP won the first round..and Shepherd made IUP pay for every mistake they made)
Region 3
Ferris Bueller beat Grand Valley by 3 (another rematch game where it was a flip in result)
Region 2
West Flori-duh beat Wingate by 31
Region 4
Mines beat Angelo State by 18 (another rematch and another flip in result)
The only one that was competitive in the end was Region 3 in another Gulag matchup.
So...all of the talk on here in giving the whole MIAA, half of the GLIAC and half of the GSC the playoff bids is utter nonsense.
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Round 2 - The Region 1 remains tight, the other regions tighten up,
Region 1 - Average margin 8 points
IUP beat Ashland by 6
Shepherd Beat Slimey by 10
Region 3 (The Gulag Round) - Average margin 4 points
Grand Valley beat Northwest Misery by 5
Ferris Bueller beat Pitt without the H State by 3
Region 2 - Average margin 14 points
Wingate beat Benedict by 17
West Flori-duh beat Delta St by 11
Region 4 - Average Margin 14 points
Angelo St beat Bemidji by 25
Mines Beat Minnehaha State by 3
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Lets look at the competitveness of games in each region from Round 1 of the Playoffs in each region...
Region 1 - Average margin of victory was 4.3 points
Ashland beat Fake Notre Dame by 7 points
Shepherd beat New Haven by 3 points
Slimey Pebble beat Assumption by 3 points
Region 3 (the supposed Region where everyone can destroy Region 1) - Average margin of victory was 33 points.
Northwest Misery beat Ouachita Baptist by 30 points'
Ferris Bueller beat Davenport by 34 points
Pittsburg Without The H State shut out Indy by 35 points
So...doesn't look like the bottom 3 of Region 3 was anywhere near competitive with the four headed monster.
Region 2 wasn't any better in Week 1 - Average margin of victory was 34 points
Wingate beat Virginia Union by 25
Delta State shut out Fayetteville State by 51
West Flori-duh (who was horribly ranked regionally) beat Limestone by 26
Region 4 was pretty much the same story but not as bad - Average margin of victory was 20 points
Bemidji State beat Winona Judd State by 24
Mines beat Pueblo by 19
Minnehaha State beat Wayne State by 17
So...I'm not going to buy that all these mid pack teams in other conferences would roll everyone.
The reality of D2 is that there are a handful of team that are legit to win the title and the rest are only going to possibly win their conference and get a playoff bid in 2,3, and 4 and Region 1 is really the only balanced region where a higher percentage of teams actually have a shot to make it to the regional finals.
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Boom. This pretty much sums up what D2 is and what it’s not…and those who want FCS style playoff brackets should just petition their schools to move up. D2 is a regional level in the NCAA. If you don’t like it, you school needs to be like George and Weezy and move on up.
https://www.indianagazette.com/sport...08dac051f.html
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Originally posted by RedFromMI View Post
And every bit of that money is D1 money. They ain't giving it up. Changing the funding percentages for D2 and D3 was discussed at the voting for the new constitution, but D1 held firm on the distribution numbers as a deal breaker. They got enough votes to pass the new constitution because enough D2 (especially) and D3 member schools realized that D1 could take more than they were and make the deal even smaller for the other divisions.
Remember - the income source is D1 generated...
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Originally posted by RedFromMI View PostD2 operates on 4.37% of the NCAA revenue that includes March Madness, plus maybe one other source (but not any newer sources of revenue since the new constitution). D3 gets a bit smaller percentage.
So unless the March Madness revenue goes up, the income side of the budget is set for D2.
As D2 rewrites its bylaws, you may see some of the functions now handled in Indianapolis by the NCAA farmed out to the individual conferences to save some of that money for enhancing championships or maybe money back to the conferences to help defray those increased expenses.
The pot is limited - and there is no simple way of growing it.
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Originally posted by GorillaTeacher View PostI don’t know, you could probably take the 300 mil spent on student assistance fund, D1 basketball performance fund, and D1 equal conference fund and distribute it differently.
It’s not like they’re actively trying to grow any of the programs that go on besides March madness.
They do nothing to advocate and promote softball, volleyball, and soccer. All largely popular spectator sports in the states.
Remember - the income source is D1 generated...
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I don’t know, you could probably take the 300 mil spent on student assistance fund, D1 basketball performance fund, and D1 equal conference fund and distribute it differently.
It’s not like they’re actively trying to grow any of the programs that go on besides March madness.
They do nothing to advocate and promote softball, volleyball, and soccer. All largely popular spectator sports in the states.
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