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  • GorillaTeacher
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    We just canned our head coach that had spent the the last couple years phoning it in after D1 stints and a D2 national championship career. I have no doubt the school is committed to getting a National winning program built. What’s being penalized about not offering sports to have warm bodies and increase your enrollment?

    I wish I could find that spread sheet someone shared about Pitts scholarship funding. Iirc all 10 were close to full equivalency funded.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by GorillaTeacher View Post

    Maybe you don’t need to sponsor so many sports. I believe all 10 of our sports are fully funded. But it’s different when 1 sport has 120 scholarship players, and the next closest has maybe 20.
    Why should students athletes in other sports be penalized?
    Your men’s basketball team is bad. They should drop down. :-)

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  • GorillaTeacher
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    5242 for Mercyhurst
    5429 for Slimy Pebble
    4105 for Seton Hill
    5927 for Clarion
    3878 for Shepherd for The State Game played in bad weather.
    1295 for Ashland no students on campus.
    1389 for Shepherd Again. It was good nobody watched that disaster.

    Your school only sponsors 5 sports a piece for men and women. I bet the vast majority of athletic money is going to just one sport. IUP has 7 for men and 10 for the ladies. Sone Pee Sack school spend on D1 Wrestling. You guys only make assumptions that we aren’t trying but really your schools dump the whole budget on foosball.





    Maybe you don’t need to sponsor so many sports. I believe all 10 of our sports are fully funded. But it’s different when 1 sport has 120 scholarship players, and the next closest has maybe 20.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by GorillaTeacher View Post
    There’s a reason why the names Plaster and Bicknell are everywhere on campus. I’d still like to see your evidence of schools using State funding for scholarships. What’s your average attendance?
    5242 for Mercyhurst
    5429 for Slimy Pebble
    4105 for Seton Hill
    5927 for Clarion
    3878 for Shepherd for The State Game played in bad weather.
    1295 for Ashland no students on campus.
    1389 for Shepherd Again. It was good nobody watched that disaster.

    Your school only sponsors 5 sports a piece for men and women. I bet the vast majority of athletic money is going to just one sport. IUP has 7 for men and 10 for the ladies. Sone Pee Sack school spend on D1 Wrestling. You guys only make assumptions that we aren’t trying but really your schools dump the whole budget on foosball.







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  • Brandon
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    Originally posted by KleShreen View Post

    I'm willing to bet that more schools in D2 offer the full compliment of 36 scholarships than don't.
    That's an easy bet to lose. You need to pick a number other than 36, because 35.5 would be fully-funded for all intents and purposes but would cause one to lose against the semantics crowd.

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  • Brandon
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    Originally posted by EastStroud13 View Post
    It's important to differentiate the programs from the fans in some cases. If the fans don't like the D2 system, they should push for their schools to move up. But it may just be that the schools, by and large, are fine with the way the D2 system is set up. Or at least, fine enough to stay put.
    Or they could vote to change the rules within the system, like the PSAC and RMAC tried to do in 2004.

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  • Brandon
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    Ten to Twelve schools have the money and they generally make up the teams in the finals. The other 150 schools fund at various levels. It’s called small college foosball for a reason.

    There is no requirement to be at 36. You just can’t spend more. IUP had 24 this past season. Shepherd and Slimey Pebble are in the same range. We are more the norm in D2 and Pitt and NW are the exception. Of course some schools get fully funded by taxpayers and we know it but of course none of you will admit it. Where is it coming from?

    Our region gets 7 spots. It’s not changing. Don’t like it, move up.

    Just be happy you have a legit shot every year.
    Seriously. I have cleaned up more of your politics in the last week than the previous year. It stops now.

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  • KleShreen
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    You’d lose that bet.

    Technically Mercyhurst and Gannon are “fully funded”. IUP crushes Mercyhurst and Gannon finally beat IUP after a decade on their practice field of a stadium.

    Anyone can cook their books. Do you think Wayne State is fully funded? They’ve been rolled by Slimy Pebble a few times. Slimy has about 21/22.
    I am fairly confident that every school in the GLIAC, MIAA, and GSC offer the full 36 scholarships except for maybe 1 or 2 in each conference. I'm also guessing that more than half the schools in the RMAC, NSIC, and SAC offer the full 36.

    It would be nice if these numbers were kept public anywhere.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by KleShreen View Post

    I'm willing to bet that more schools in D2 offer the full compliment of 36 scholarships than don't.
    You’d lose that bet.

    Technically Mercyhurst and Gannon are “fully funded”. IUP crushes Mercyhurst and Gannon finally beat IUP after a decade on their practice field of a stadium.

    Anyone can cook their books. Do you think Wayne State is fully funded? They’ve been rolled by Slimy Pebble a few times. Slimy has about 21/22.

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  • KleShreen
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    Ten to Twelve schools have the money and they generally make up the teams in the finals. The other 150 schools fund at various levels. It’s called small college foosball for a reason.

    There is no requirement to be at 36. You just can’t spend more. IUP had 24 this past season. Shepherd and Slimey Pebble are in the same range. We are more the norm in D2 and Pitt and NW are the exception. Of course some schools get fully funded by taxpayers and we know it but of course none of you will admit it. Where is it coming from?

    Our region gets 7 spots. It’s not changing. Don’t like it, move up.

    Just be happy you have a legit shot every year.
    I'm willing to bet that more schools in D2 offer the full compliment of 36 scholarships than don't.

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  • GorillaTeacher
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    There’s a reason why the names Plaster and Bicknell are everywhere on campus. I’d still like to see your evidence of schools using State funding for scholarships. What’s your average attendance?

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  • Predatory Primates
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    Originally posted by EastStroud13 View Post
    It's important to differentiate the programs from the fans in some cases. If the fans don't like the D2 system, they should push for their schools to move up. But it may just be that the schools, by and large, are fine with the way the D2 system is set up. Or at least, fine enough to stay put.
    I know the MIAA commissioner has spoken out about the flawed system several times. Not sure if others have done the same or not. Telling teams to move up is silly. I'm not in here telling teams to move down. [I do wish there was an option for those who wanted to do so in football only, though. I can't imagine what lies a coach would have to sell in order to get players to sign up for a team under an administration who doesn't even plan to try]

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  • EastStroud13
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    It's important to differentiate the programs from the fans in some cases. If the fans don't like the D2 system, they should push for their schools to move up. But it may just be that the schools, by and large, are fine with the way the D2 system is set up. Or at least, fine enough to stay put.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by Predatory Primates View Post
    I honestly don't care if any of the other MIAA teams make the playoffs, but calling teams who have spent the money and time to get good "entitled" while schools who haven't even put in the effort take playoff spots like they are participation trophies, is the silliest thing you have ever said.

    Thanks for the laugh.
    Ten to Twelve schools have the money and they generally make up the teams in the finals. The other 150 schools fund at various levels. It’s called small college foosball for a reason.

    There is no requirement to be at 36. You just can’t spend more. IUP had 24 this past season. Shepherd and Slimey Pebble are in the same range. We are more the norm in D2 and Pitt and NW are the exception. Of course some schools get fully funded by taxpayers and we know it but of course none of you will admit it. Where is it coming from?

    Our region gets 7 spots. It’s not changing. Don’t like it, move up.

    Just be happy you have a legit shot every year.
    Last edited by IUPNation; 01-09-2023, 03:55 PM.

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  • Predatory Primates
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    I honestly don't care if any of the other MIAA teams make the playoffs, but calling teams who have spent the money and time to get good "entitled" while schools who haven't even put in the effort take playoff spots like they are participation trophies, is the silliest thing you have ever said.

    Thanks for the laugh.

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