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  • complaint_hopeful
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    100%. People also lack perspective. Edinboro for example hasn't always been called Edinboro. There were several years it was called the Northwest State Normal School. Schools change their names. Most recently I can think of is Tri-State becoming Trine. Beaver College became Arcadia before that. Mergers by any name are coming. The birth rate is plummeting. Adult students are attending online at schools designed for that with easier enrollment processes. We can't stay the course. Its a turd sandwich and sometimes we have to tell ourselves that its just a bad sloppy joe.

    The comments are disheartening, too. Withholding donations (usually said by people who don't donate) only makes the problem worse. A lot of people who seem to have ignored the previous messages about athletics, nicknames, campus names, etc. and some who seem to have missed the entire integration messaging. Sheesh.
    Yes - That's the unfortunate part. Some of these schools would be out of business if they were standalone schools. Chaney for sure, but also probably Mansfield and Clarion. And then several others would be close.

    That necessitated some change. Yes - The enrollment processes need to change for the better to be easier. Probably dozens of other things need to change.

    Some action had to happen. It was just a question of what? And is it enough? And is this the best way to spend the '1-time funds'?

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View Post
    Not saying this is a great name, but I think with the amount of negative support for the Integration that people would be against any name that they came up with.
    100%. People also lack perspective. Edinboro for example hasn't always been called Edinboro. There were several years it was called the Northwest State Normal School. Schools change their names. Most recently I can think of is Tri-State becoming Trine. Beaver College became Arcadia before that. Mergers by any name are coming. The birth rate is plummeting. Adult students are attending online at schools designed for that with easier enrollment processes. We can't stay the course. Its a turd sandwich and sometimes we have to tell ourselves that its just a bad sloppy joe.

    The comments are disheartening, too. Withholding donations (usually said by people who don't donate) only makes the problem worse. A lot of people who seem to have ignored the previous messages about athletics, nicknames, campus names, etc. and some who seem to have missed the entire integration messaging. Sheesh.

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  • complaint_hopeful
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    Spring registration is coming. Will be interesting to see if this has an impact. I'm seeing a lot of complaining on Twitter.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View Post
    Not saying this is a great name, but I think with the amount of negative support for the Integration that people would be against any name that they came up with.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

    I highly doubt that a challenge to that name would be rejected in court. I think the name was floated for IUP in 1965 but probably the bigger reason it became IUP was that powerful locals wanted to keep "Indiana" in the name.

    Pitt has not used that Western Pennsylvania name for how long? Another entity using it would not harm Univ. of Pgh. in any way. Plus, it's just a generic, geographic name. If a public system wanted to use Western Pennsylvania I don't think it would be a problem.
    IUP was supposed to be The Western Pennsylvania State University. I imagine some Community College in Centre County had a problem with it..

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  • complaint_hopeful
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    Not saying this is a great name, but I think with the amount of negative support for the Integration that people would be against any name that they came up with.

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View Post

    Maybe people will assume they're Ivy League with U Penn which is called Penn. They'll think this is Penn's West Pa campus.

    There's apparently some companies with Pennwest as their name too.

    But, yes it sounds like a prison I agree.
    Now that could be a problem. I don't think these BOG people are thinking too far ahead.

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View Post

    Yeah Pitt used to be Western University of Pennsylvania. University of Pittsburgh - Wikipedia
    I highly doubt that a challenge to that name would be rejected in court. I think the name was floated for IUP in 1965 but probably the bigger reason it became IUP was that powerful locals wanted to keep "Indiana" in the name.

    Pitt has not used that Western Pennsylvania name for how long? Another entity using it would not harm Univ. of Pgh. in any way. Plus, it's just a generic, geographic name. If a public system wanted to use Western Pennsylvania I don't think it would be a problem.

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  • complaint_hopeful
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    In the BOG meeting, they asked for a 15% increase in funding to $550 million. We'll see if they get it.

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  • complaint_hopeful
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    Penn West is what the branding says. Sounds like a hospital or a prison but I guess I'll get used to it.
    Maybe people will assume they're Ivy League with U Penn which is called Penn. They'll think this is Penn's West Pa campus.

    There's apparently some companies with Pennwest as their name too.

    But, yes it sounds like a prison I agree.

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  • complaint_hopeful
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    LOL

    Hope we spent about a half mil paying people to come up with that one.


    So, will they each be called Pennsylvania Western University-Edinboro (etc.) ?


    WE ARE ... P W U E

    Quite a ring to it.
    Penn West - California, Clarion, and Edinboro campus I assume.

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  • complaint_hopeful
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
    I can't seem to find any documentation but I was assured that Pitt holds the copyright on "Western Pennsylvania" use for higher ed. The name was the best of the 5 finalists I saw and by a mile. It also allows them to in the future possibly pull in Slippery Rock and IUP without changing the name. I think if they're smart they'll go Pennsylvania Central (sounds like a train) because that similarly would allow them to pull in Shippensburg.
    Yeah Pitt used to be Western University of Pennsylvania. University of Pittsburgh - Wikipedia

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    LOL

    Hope we spent about a half mil paying people to come up with that one.


    So, will they each be called Pennsylvania Western University-Edinboro (etc.) ?


    WE ARE ... P W U E

    Quite a ring to it.
    Penn West is what the branding says. Sounds like a hospital or a prison but I guess I'll get used to it.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View Post
    And the official name of the Western Triad is: Pennsylvania Western University. I'm sure that was a tough task for consultants to come up with that name.
    LOL

    Hope we spent about a half mil paying people to come up with that one.


    So, will they each be called Pennsylvania Western University-Edinboro (etc.) ?


    WE ARE ... P W U E

    Quite a ring to it.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    I can't seem to find any documentation but I was assured that Pitt holds the copyright on "Western Pennsylvania" use for higher ed. The name was the best of the 5 finalists I saw and by a mile. It also allows them to in the future possibly pull in Slippery Rock and IUP without changing the name. I think if they're smart they'll go Pennsylvania Central (sounds like a train) because that similarly would allow them to pull in Shippensburg.

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