PASSHE Institutions Merging

[iupgroundhog]

Yeah...when I saw the comment of it being remote I kind of chuckled.

Anything below 80 and east of 81 isn't that remote...

Remote is a relative term but I think Shippensburg could fit into a lot of definitions of "remote." Not to mention to the south and the west you are getting into some serious Appalachia.

[IUPNation]

Remote is a relative term but I think Shippensburg could fit into a lot of definitions of "remote." Not to mention to the south and the west you are getting into some serious Appalachia.

Shippensburg is a Control City on the sign for the Blue Mountain Exit off the Turnpike. It’s literally off 81 and near 30. It on the western end of the Harrisburg metro area. It’s not remote. Mansfield is remote.

[iupgroundhog]

Shippensburg is a Control City on the sign for the Blue Mountain Exit off the Turnpike. It’s literally off 81 and near 30. It on the western end of the Harrisburg metro area. It’s not remote. Mansfield is remote.

I know. I've driven there many times. I think it's reasonably remote. Depends on where you are coming from. None of the PSAC schools are really remote because they aren't hard to get to. I think a lot of people from the Phila. and Pgh.. metro areas would consider Ship to be remote.

[Ship69]

I know. I've driven there many times. I think it's reasonably remote. Depends on where you are coming from. None of the PSAC schools are really remote because they aren't hard to get to. I think a lot of people from the Phila. and Pgh.. metro areas would consider Ship to be remote.

I had a job at one point that basically took me to all 67 counties in Pa. at one time or another, and I would certainly consider Clarion, Lock Haven, and Mansfield to be a good deal more remote than Shippensburg to most of the state's populated areas. IUP isn't exactly easy to reach from the east. Edinboro is not really convenient to anyone outside of the Erie area. A lot of it just depends on your starting point. Ship is an easy drive to the Cumberland-Dauphin area that, while not a major metropolis, is a sizable population center and one of the few rapidly growing areas in Pa.

[iupgroundhog]

I had a job at one point that basically took me to all 67 counties in Pa. at one time or another, and I would certainly consider Clarion, Lock Haven, and Mansfield to be a good deal more remote than Shippensburg to most of the state's populated areas. IUP isn't exactly easy to reach from the east. Edinboro is not really convenient to anyone outside of the Erie area. A lot of it just depends on your starting point. Ship is an easy drive to the Cumberland-Dauphin area that, while not a major metropolis, is a sizable population center and one of the few rapidly growing areas in Pa.

Where is the growth coming from in that area?

[IUPNation]

I know. I've driven there many times. I think it's reasonably remote. Depends on where you are coming from. None of the PSAC schools are really remote because they aren't hard to get to. I think a lot of people from the Phila. and Pgh.. metro areas would consider Ship to be remote.

To me remote is far off the beaten path. Indiana was kind of remote years ago but with 22 mostly an expanded highway between Altoona and Pittsburgh it’s readily accessible these days.

[Fightingscot82]

I had a job at one point that basically took me to all 67 counties in Pa. at one time or another, and I would certainly consider Clarion, Lock Haven, and Mansfield to be a good deal more remote than Shippensburg to most of the state's populated areas. IUP isn't exactly easy to reach from the east. Edinboro is not really convenient to anyone outside of the Erie area. A lot of it just depends on your starting point. Ship is an easy drive to the Cumberland-Dauphin area that, while not a major metropolis, is a sizable population center and one of the few rapidly growing areas in Pa.

Edinboro is not convenient to anyone looking to commute from the west or from the south beyond Meadville - but people do. I met commuters from Mercer and Ashtabula. But its 3 miles off of I-79. You can turn off the exit and you'll pass campus without turning. For the rest of us, 79 and 90 are highways that we take on a trip. In NWPA they are commuter roads the way 376 and 279 are in Pittsburgh or 76, 476, and 676 around Philly.

Edinboro is also a suburb of Erie and a lot of couples have one person working north and another south like Meadville. Very few university employees live in Edinboro. Its nearly all townies and if an employee they're a coach spending tons of time on campus or they're a more hourly employee like facilities or clerical. There is also a large vacation home neighborhood on Edinboro Lake so the town thrives in the summer between vacationers and the huge soccer camps they have every couple weekends. I was just there last week and the town hasn't looked better since Covid.

[BlueBlood]

Sorry, Sorry, Sorry. Didn't mean to trigger anybody with my word choice. I just meant that Shippensburg is not in a metro area that would lend itself to high commuter numbers (like a West Chester, for example). Completely agree that it has easy highway access and that it is far less remote than some other PSAC schools.

[Ship69]

Sorry, Sorry, Sorry. Didn't mean to trigger anybody with my word choice. I just meant that Shippensburg is not in a metro area that would lend itself to high commuter numbers (like a West Chester, for example). Completely agree that it has easy highway access and that it is far less remote than some other PSAC schools.

Hey, that's fine. It's not a matter of "triggering" someone. I just didn't agree with certain aspects of your statement. It's no big deal.

[Ship69]

Where is the growth coming from in that area?

Warehousing, state government, military installations, some industry. My county has a strong agricultural presence and also nearby industry such as Volvo plants in Shippensburg and Hagerstown, Md., Manitowoc Crane between Waynesboro and Greencastle, and JLG Lifts in nearby Fulton County. Harrisburg area has Hershey and other manufacturing plants. In our area, we're also getting a lot of retirees from metro areas who come up largely from the D.C. area for lower home prices and lower taxes. And if you want to get to cities for special events, we're less than two hours from D.C. and Baltimore, and a little over two from Philly.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Warehousing, state government, military installations, some industry. My county has a strong agricultural presence and also nearby industry such as Volvo plants in Shippensburg and Hagerstown, Md., Manitowoc Crane between Waynesboro and Greencastle, and JLG Lifts in nearby Fulton County. Harrisburg area has Hershey and other manufacturing plants. In our area, we're also getting a lot of retirees from metro areas who come up largely from the D.C. area for lower home prices and lower taxes. And if you want to get to cities for special events, we're less than two hours from D.C. and Baltimore, and a little over two from Philly.

Don't forget that big new casino.

[Ship69]

Don't forget that big new casino.

Supposed to have about 200 employees. I should never underestimate the lure of losing money in an exciting manner. We supposedly live in a cash-strapped and overtaxed state, yet people seem to have the resources to gamble away billions every year.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Supposed to have about 200 employees. I should never underestimate the lure of losing money in an exciting manner. We supposedly live in a cash-strapped and overtaxed state, yet people seem to have the resources to gamble away billions every year.

Here in the Yinzerlands they opened a casino (several years back now) at Westmoreland Mall (Greensburg). It BOOMS. Every day of the week. It has nice bars, a Guy Fieri (overpriced) restaurant, cool bars, etc.

The one in Pittsburgh near the Steelers stadium can be pretty sketchy at night. In turn, the one in Greensburg is making a killing.

I do wonder how the two in WV are doing now that these have opened in PA. I can't imagine very well compared to years past.

I'd rather just go out in my driveway and burn $2,000 or so and call it a day. Save the gas.

As Ace Rothstein famously said ... the players have no chance. In the end, they get it all.


BTW, I''ll be in Shippensburg here in a couple weeks. I plan to hit up the University Grille once again. Great stop.

[Fightingscot82]

WVU just jacked tuition 5% and is trimming majors at its campuses. Tuition, housing, and meal plan for a PA resident is $42,000.

Competing PASSHE funding proposals for the budget. Democrats want a 6.5% funding increase to cover cost increases and not raise tuition for the 6th year in a row. Republicans have proposed no increase, meaning a combination of tuition increases (which Republicans will blast), budget cuts, and staff layoffs.

[iupgroundhog]

WVU just jacked tuition 5% and is trimming majors at its campuses. Tuition, housing, and meal plan for a PA resident is $42,000.

Competing PASSHE funding proposals for the budget. Democrats want a 6.5% funding increase to cover cost increases and not raise tuition for the 6th year in a row. Republicans have proposed no increase, meaning a combination of tuition increases (which Republicans will blast), budget cuts, and staff layoffs.

Sad. PA legislature needs to turn more blue. If it did (it probably won't anytime soon), many of the people who vote Republican would be helped. Many of the communities who now vote Republican would be helped. Just sayin'.