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  • iupgroundhog
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
    Looks like Whitmyre Hall is a goner too and throwing the Honors Colkege into a flux. What is Bow Tie doing?

    https://www.thepenn.org/opinion/it-s...nOrdb5hfyKc3oQ
    If the biggest obstacle is replicating the physical space that seems ridiculous to me.

    Not to mention how bizarre it is the way they describe the social atmosphere of Whitmyre because most of us lived in places like that in college.

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  • IUPNation
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    Looks like Whitmyre Hall is a goner too and throwing the Honors Colkege into a flux. What is Bow Tie doing?

    https://www.thepenn.org/opinion/it-s...nOrdb5hfyKc3oQ

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

    She just defended herself in an openly corrupt and outrageously unfair and vindictive system. Keep in mind that I am a huge D1 Wrestling fan. But what Bruce did has no place in one of our state universities or in college athletics, in general. He and Edinboro University were lucky to escape from that situation in as good of shape as they did.

    It was outrageously and blatantly wrong. People want to talk about PSU and Joe Paterno - who knew what and when did they know it, etc. But, for sure, there were a lot of enablers within the Edinboro University community. It came tumbling down but some still rationalize about it today.
    Again, with you 100%. Unfortunately in my opinion, Bruce tarnished his reputation at the university with this fiasco. But Bruce got one of those PASSHE Shuffle jobs - reassigned to AVP for some fundraising thing and played work for a couple years until he hit full pension and retired. He still lives in Edinboro.

    Very few rationalize it. Like elsewhere in life, most of those who do either haven't read the report or refuse to accept its findings. But it also worsened a lot of relations within that building. Her office is just a few doors down from Bruce's.

    You're right that it did expose some behind the scenes things Bruce did to prop up wrestling, which only exposed other wounds from this ordeal. What a shame.

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Originally posted by jrshooter View Post

    OK, I honestly haven't heard what happened with Baumgartner and Edinboro. And none of the profiles or recent articles on him mention it. What happened?
    https://sportslitigationalert.com/womens-volleyball-coach-settles-lawsuit-with-pennsylvania-school-over-pay-disparity/

    https://www.goerie.com/story/news/cr...00/6607993007/

    Essentially, Baumgartner tilted the resources in the athletic department so far toward wrestling, then when she took action, he defied the Edinboro President and the PASSHE administration by not implementing the recommended corrections. Then, he retaliated against the VB coach in an unheard of way, repeatedly. You aren't going to get away with what he did and, in the end, he didn't. The high profile D1 wrestling coach bailed out before it all hit the fan and took his top assistant with him.

    No, you won't read about it in his bio.
    Last edited by iupgroundhog; 12-03-2023, 07:26 PM.

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  • jrshooter
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

    She just defended herself in an openly corrupt and outrageously unfair and vindictive system. Keep in mind that I am a huge D1 Wrestling fan. But what Bruce did has no place in one of our state universities or in college athletics, in general. He and Edinboro University were lucky to escape from that situation in as good of shape as they did.

    It was outrageously and blatantly wrong. People want to talk about PSU and Joe Paterno - who knew what and when did they know it, etc. But, for sure, there were a lot of enablers within the Edinboro University community. It came tumbling down but some still rationalize about it today.
    OK, I honestly haven't heard what happened with Baumgartner and Edinboro. And none of the profiles or recent articles on him mention it. What happened?

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Originally posted by IUPalum View Post

    Don't get me started on that loser! She single handed destroyed athletics at Edinboro.
    She just defended herself in an openly corrupt and outrageously unfair and vindictive system. Keep in mind that I am a huge D1 Wrestling fan. But what Bruce did has no place in one of our state universities or in college athletics, in general. He and Edinboro University were lucky to escape from that situation in as good of shape as they did.

    It was outrageously and blatantly wrong. People want to talk about PSU and Joe Paterno - who knew what and when did they know it, etc. But, for sure, there were a lot of enablers within the Edinboro University community. It came tumbling down but some still rationalize about it today.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPalum View Post

    Don't get me started on that loser! She single handed destroyed athletics at Edinboro.
    One of a few factors. Ironically her record since then has been rough.

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  • IUPalum
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    Do they pay their volleyball coach as much as the football coach?
    Don't get me started on that loser! She single handed destroyed athletics at Edinboro.

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  • CUlater
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    IUP plays Clarion tonight in the Atlantic Region Championship


    For those unaware, Clarion is a powerhouse in Volleyball.
    Clarion and Gannon have met in the PSAC championship and Atlantic region Championship the last 3-4 years in a row. Also, not sure if you’ve been paying attention but MBB has played 7 games and already has more wins than all of last year lol. They are still a year or two away from being a legitimate threat but they have improved a ton. Nice to see

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    Do they pay their volleyball coach as much as the football coach?
    Probably more

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    IUP plays Clarion tonight in the Atlantic Region Championship


    For those unaware, Clarion is a powerhouse in Volleyball.
    Do they pay their volleyball coach as much as the football coach?

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    They should consider it a payback.
    IUP plays Clarion tonight in the Atlantic Region Championship


    For those unaware, Clarion is a powerhouse in Volleyball.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    IUP Volleyball pulled a shocker tonight in Erie and upset host Gannon.

    IUP (23-10) will play in the Atlantic Region Final tomorrow.

    Gannon had swept IUP in the regular season but IUP won the most important meeting.
    They should consider it a payback.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    IUP Volleyball pulled a shocker tonight in Erie and upset host Gannon.

    IUP (23-10) will play in the Atlantic Region Final tomorrow.

    Gannon had swept IUP in the regular season but IUP won the most important meeting.

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post

    I wish I could agree but there is no evidence to suggest this. The most recent example was last season when Shepherd went in with an NFL QB and one of the best overall teams in SR1 in recent years and they got blown off the field by the team that then got destroyed the following week in the championship game. Neither of the two remaining PSAC teams are as good as Shepherd was last year.

    Whichever team wins between Slippery Rock and Kutztown is going to get thrown to the wolves in the form of Colorado Mines (likely), or Grand Valley State. Remember the scene in Jurassic Park when they staked the goat out for bait?

    Believe me, I’d love nothing more for you to come back in two weeks and say I told you so. I just don’t see it.
    I will come back and say that either I was wrong or that I was right but I'm sticking to my claim.

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