THE IUP Football Thread

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Just throwing this out here and it might surprise some people. These are records at IUP at similar stages of their tenure.

Curt Cignetti: 53-17 (.757)
Paul Tortorella: 57-18 (.760)

If you want to take out this season Tort would be 53-16 (.768)

In fairness, however, Curt inherited a dumpster fire. Tort inherited a Mercedes.

[EyeoftheHawk]

Just throwing this out here and it might surprise some people. These are records at IUP at similar stages of their tenure.

Curt Cignetti: 53-17 (.757)
Paul Tortorella: 57-18 (.760)

If you want to take out this season Tort would be 53-16 (.768)

[Fightingscot82]

While we're talking about compensation...here are the public schools in order of head coach salary.

Kutztown

Slippery Rock

Indiana

California

West Chester

East Stroudsburg

Shippensburg

Millersville

Clarion

Shepherd

Bloomsburg

Lock Haven

Edinboro

West Virginia is a year behind in reporting, so that Shepherd salary is from the 2023 calendar year.

Seton Hill and Gannon are private, so their employee salaries are private except for what is required by their annual tax filing. The most current filings available are from 2022 and 2023, and neither list any coaches.

[IUPNation]

This is what happens when you don't have an SID.

...and that happens when you have people who went to Slimey Pebble in charge of our athletics.

It's like they were sent to IUP to sabotage everything.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

This is what happens when you don't have an SID.

They promoted a young lady to the 'interim' spot. She looks to be college-aged.

That whole thing went down pretty strange. They didn't announce the departure of the previous guy. It became obvious when their social media posts were almost non-existent and they weren't even publishing previews. The guy who left was very young also -- and likely came very inexpensive.

The SID position in itself is overwhelming, time-wise. Add to it (due to a lack of staffing) they are also essentially in charge of the social media accounts -- content, etc. D1 schools have a position(s) solely in charge of social media content/creation. That doesn't sound all that important to the older crowd but it's REAL important to the younger crowd. Recruits want to see fancy posts, images, etc.

This is a current generation which grew up solely in the 'tech' era. IUP's social media of late is looking like it's from 1999. Hopefully this gets fixed here quickly. The only sport on campus doing a good job in social media is women's volleyball -- and I'm fairly certain they handle it themselves. Their stuff is way different than the other sports -- i.e. it's creative, eye-catching, current.

I was the first to mock Lock Haven a bit but without question they've done a tremendous job on social media. Of course, that's a younger coach, younger staff, etc. Some of their stuff is a bit cheesy (to me) but that doesn't mean it's cheesy to the more-important recruiting-aged players. It's working.

[ironmaniup]

There's better odds of Elvis being at Miller Stadium this Saturday than Tort being terminated.

Him retiring is a different subject.

I would guess we'll have another 4-5 years of Tort Ball. He doesn't make Lombardi money but he's doing pretty good.

Elvis has been around Indiana, I saw him singing outside the Trump rally, and he's was at Bob's Pizza the other day.

But yes, it changes when Tort retires. Now, its possible to strongly encourage someone to retire. But Driscol doesn't do that much, and I can't see anyone in student affairs wanting to shake things up right now. Keep in mind a new hire would probably demand more resources that Tort is happy with. So, barring some kind of scandal, like the football team fighting a fraternity and all getting arrested, I think you are correct.

[IUPalum]

And to add to this bad year…

…the band is back in flux with an interim director.

​​​​​​…we have Valley Girls calling the online broadcasts.

​​​​​​…and the social media presence for IUP Athletics has vanished. I rarely see anything come across on Facebook. I don’t do Instagram and I’d rather eat Yinzer Cheesesteaks than reinstate my Twitter account now that Lizard Face owns it.

This is what happens when you don't have an SID.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

And to add to this bad year…

…the band is back in flux with an interim director.

​​​​​​…we have Valley Girls calling the online broadcasts.

​​​​​​…and the social media presence for IUP Athletics has vanished. I rarely see anything come across on Facebook. I don’t do Instagram and I’d rather eat Yinzer Cheesesteaks than reinstate my Twitter account now that Lizard Face owns it.

And if only they stopped two 4th-and-7's ... None of this would be being discussed.

Amazing

[IUPNation]

And to add to this bad year…

…the band is back in flux with an interim director.

​​​​​​…we have Valley Girls calling the online broadcasts.

​​​​​​…and the social media presence for IUP Athletics has vanished. I rarely see anything come across on Facebook. I don’t do Instagram and I’d rather eat Yinzer Cheesesteaks than reinstate my Twitter account now that Lizard Face owns it.

[Fightingscot82]

There's better odds of Elvis being at Miller Stadium this Saturday than Tort being terminated.

Him retiring is a different subject.

I would guess we'll have another 4-5 years of Tort Ball. He doesn't make Lombardi money but he's doing pretty good.

Yep and PASSHE benefits are very expensive. Looking at his pay, its probably over $300k per year for a buyout.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

The answer to everyone's question rests with how much is left on Tort's contract. He's in a union represented state government job. He'll have to be completely bought out of everything left: salary, COBRA, sick time, personal time, retirement match, etc. That could be a half million and I doubt IUP has a sugar daddy willing to pay it. Can't imagine that would fly with the school's current financial condition.

There's better odds of Elvis being at Miller Stadium this Saturday than Tort being terminated.

Him retiring is a different subject.

I would guess we'll have another 4-5 years of Tort Ball. He doesn't make Lombardi money but he's doing pretty good.

[Fightingscot82]

The answer to everyone's question rests with how much is left on Tort's contract. He's in a union represented state government job. He'll have to be completely bought out of everything left: salary, COBRA, sick time, personal time, retirement match, etc. That could be a half million and I doubt IUP has a sugar daddy willing to pay it. Can't imagine that would fly with the school's current financial condition.

[iupgroundhog]

The only good coaches we’ve had were named Cignetti and George Chaump got the ball rolling 40 years ago. That ended a stale decade of IUP foosball from the early 70’s to the early 80’s.

Speaking of getting the ball rolling, I just saw in the online IG that Melvin Woodard passed away. Dr. Woodard was a math professor and a huge supporter of IUP athletics, mostly basketball. I think his son played for IUP BB. Woodard was one of the old guard.

[IUPNation]

Didn't realize Biden weighed that much.

As for your record this year, if you really want change you have to hope you lose out or only win one maybe 2 more games. I've seen it at Pitt and now NW. coaches winning just enough to keep their jobs and pointing out the why, as to their record. Real or not, injuries, 2 last minute drives, the election, the weather, whatever. Your best bet however unpleasant is that the team quits on Tort and you go 4-7 or 5-6.

The season is over. If that will get rid of the rot that is our coaching staff I’m all for it. They are past their expiration dates. We need new and innovative blood.

This season had low energy from the start..like a Denentia DonOLD Idiot Rally after an hour after he’s been dishing out non stop word salad and people start leaving…three road games to start..only four home games due to Backstabber U moving up…there was just no excitement and the on field performance is playing it out..

The only good coaches we’ve had were named Cignetti and George Chaump got the ball rolling 40 years ago. That ended a stale decade of IUP foosball from the early 70’s to the early 80’s.

The Lou Tepper wasn’t good pick and the current staff is never going to put us back up.

Also FDJT.

[Wallst]

It’s no coincidence everything has gone south since a 78 year old dementia riddled, 325 pound orange rotting sack of testicles stepped foot on our campus. We’ve been cursed.

Didn't realize Biden weighed that much.

As for your record this year, if you really want change you have to hope you lose out or only win one maybe 2 more games. I've seen it at Pitt and now NW. coaches winning just enough to keep their jobs and pointing out the why, as to their record. Real or not, injuries, 2 last minute drives, the election, the weather, whatever. Your best bet however unpleasant is that the team quits on Tort and you go 4-7 or 5-6.