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  • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    Yeah but its fair to say that Tepper was the right guy for his moment, too. Cignetti was clearly fading and the community's willingness to forgive player misbehavior was almost bottomed out. Tep was the reigning PSAC West COY and had a reputation for cleaning up programs. He was just a little antiquated and stuck in his ways.
    Tony Atwater (then IUP President) hired Lou Tepper and Joe Lombardi.

    Both were tasked with cleaning up programs.

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    • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

      Yeah but its fair to say that Tepper was the right guy for his moment, too. Cignetti was clearly fading and the community's willingness to forgive player misbehavior was almost bottomed out. Tep was the reigning PSAC West COY and had a reputation for cleaning up programs. He was just a little antiquated and stuck in his ways.
      Ok. Then he was handed a Ferrari and then drove it in the fast lane at 25 mph with the left turn signal blinking.

      :-)

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      • Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

        I crossed paths for a very brief time with Rogish. For the life of me I don't get what the IUP hoopla was with him. He seemed completely lost coaching within Shepherd's defensive scheme and quickly lost respect of the players once they realized they knew more about the scheme than their coach did. Just was not impressed at all with him and I'd say IUP dodged a major bullet not succumbing to any pressure to higher him as the HC during that time frame.
        There was never any hoopla about Rogish. If there was, he would have gotten the job. He was just a guy already on the staff that was interested in the job. When he didn’t, he moved on, which often happened with internal candidates whose feeling get hurt.

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        • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

          Yeah but its fair to say that Tepper was the right guy for his moment, too. Cignetti was clearly fading and the community's willingness to forgive player misbehavior was almost bottomed out. Tep was the reigning PSAC West COY and had a reputation for cleaning up programs. He was just a little antiquated and stuck in his ways.
          It was the worst period of time over my lifetime following IUP football. Tepper was a shadow of his best self by the time he got here and I don’t think I can agree that he was the right guy. I’m sure he wasn’t the only coach that could have cleaned up some messes within the program. I think Atwater was a little enamored with the resume and thought he might be able to squeeze a little more out of it. All that said, hiring is always a gamble and I don’t necessarily fault the decision at the time. It didn’t work out though and I really hate to give Tepper credit for much at all as it relates to his time at IUP.

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          • Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post

            It was the worst period of time over my lifetime following IUP football. Tepper was a shadow of his best self by the time he got here and I don’t think I can agree that he was the right guy. I’m sure he wasn’t the only coach that could have cleaned up some messes within the program. I think Atwater was a little enamored with the resume and thought he might be able to squeeze a little more out of it. All that said, hiring is always a gamble and I don’t necessarily fault the decision at the time. It didn’t work out though and I really hate to give Tepper credit for much at all as it relates to his time at IUP.
            He produced the only losing season in the last 40 years.

            How many schools can say they have had one losing season in 4 decades?

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            • Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post

              It was the worst period of time over my lifetime following IUP football. Tepper was a shadow of his best self by the time he got here and I don’t think I can agree that he was the right guy. I’m sure he wasn’t the only coach that could have cleaned up some messes within the program. I think Atwater was a little enamored with the resume and thought he might be able to squeeze a little more out of it. All that said, hiring is always a gamble and I don’t necessarily fault the decision at the time. It didn’t work out though and I really hate to give Tepper credit for much at all as it relates to his time at IUP.
              Correct. The Tepper Era was a total disaster.

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              • Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

                I crossed paths for a very brief time with Rogish. For the life of me I don't get what the IUP hoopla was with him. He seemed completely lost coaching within Shepherd's defensive scheme and quickly lost respect of the players once they realized they knew more about the scheme than their coach did. Just was not impressed at all with him and I'd say IUP dodged a major bullet not succumbing to any pressure to higher him as the HC during that time frame.
                There was no hoopla regarding Rogish. I'm pretty in tune with the program. As stated previously, he was just another guy who wanted the job.

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                • Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

                  I crossed paths for a very brief time with Rogish. For the life of me I don't get what the IUP hoopla was with him. He seemed completely lost coaching within Shepherd's defensive scheme and quickly lost respect of the players once they realized they knew more about the scheme than their coach did. Just was not impressed at all with him and I'd say IUP dodged a major bullet not succumbing to any pressure to higher him as the HC during that time frame.
                  It seemed to me Coach Rogish a player coach at IUP. They had so much talent some of those years and he let them play. Maybe shortcomings were hidden by that talent. I talked to him a few times and he is a really nice guy who did great things for IUP

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                  • Originally posted by cage View Post

                    It seemed to me Coach Rogish a player coach at IUP. They had so much talent some of those years and he let them play. Maybe shortcomings were hidden by that talent. I talked to him a few times and he is a really nice guy who did great things for IUP
                    Very nice guy. Just was wild to me to see a guy with that kind of resume and pub about him coming from a pretty darn good program to come down to Shepherd and be tuned out so quickly. I wouldn't chalk it up to disrespectful players either, he simply had no idea what he was talking about more than half the time.

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                    • Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

                      Very nice guy. Just was wild to me to see a guy with that kind of resume and pub about him coming from a pretty darn good program to come down to Shepherd and be tuned out so quickly. I wouldn't chalk it up to disrespectful players either, he simply had no idea what he was talking about more than half the time.
                      He had some teams at IUP in the 90s, as stated above, that didn't need a whole lot of coaching. Frank's teams in that era needed more off-the-field supervision than they needed coaching on the field. In the early and mid-90s they just had so much more talent than just about every team they played all season.

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                      • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                        Tort has had a better run (at IUP) than Curt.

                        That said, Tort inherited a team ready to explode. Curt inherited a team approaching dumpster fire. So, it's not simply win-loss record when comparing.

                        Curt struggled under the bright lights at IUP. He lost some real flukey games but lost several nonetheless. He certainly got the train back on track. No doubt.

                        Tort is loaded up right now. His biggest task may be playing therapist. He's got a lot of peeps to feed. I would say this is clearly his most hyped team.
                        Boy I don’t know that, the 2018 team that entered Ashland after a regional championship was pretty loaded with a 4 year starter at QB and 2 feature backs. This team may have football card star power and several Oline to boast…Then the expectations went higher in 2018 with solid road win in opener. I still say that rob job loss at Cal knocked the season off more than anyone will ever know.

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                        • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                          Nice post!

                          You didn't miss a thing during The Lou Tepper years. It was like watching an older Ferrari that was running great rust quickly...
                          The affect of the Portal needs to be in discussion. A real player and game changer to say the least.

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                          • Originally posted by Iupgh View Post

                            Boy I don’t know that, the 2018 team that entered Ashland after a regional championship was pretty loaded with a 4 year starter at QB and 2 feature backs. This team may have football card star power and several Oline to boast…Then the expectations went higher in 2018 with solid road win in opener. I still say that rob job loss at Cal knocked the season off more than anyone will ever know.
                            Ironically the '18 team was the hardest to watch (sans the opener) in the past decade. I still think that team had major locker room issues.

                            That season finale debacle was hard to stomach.

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                            • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                              Correct. The Tepper Era was a total disaster.
                              Even the uniforms were the worst ever. The bird head on the helmet was the worst. Even the now Un PC helmet from the 80’s with the Indian on horseback carrying the spear was better than that…

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                              • Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post

                                It was the worst period of time over my lifetime following IUP football. Tepper was a shadow of his best self by the time he got here and I don’t think I can agree that he was the right guy. I’m sure he wasn’t the only coach that could have cleaned up some messes within the program. I think Atwater was a little enamored with the resume and thought he might be able to squeeze a little more out of it. All that said, hiring is always a gamble and I don’t necessarily fault the decision at the time. It didn’t work out though and I really hate to give Tepper credit for much at all as it relates to his time at IUP.
                                FWIW, Tepper coached Edinboro to 3 straight western division championships prior to taking the IUP job, His first year at IUP, he won the west again. The next year IUP was second, then tied for 2nd the following year, then it all fell apart. It's kind of a hard to understand record.

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