THE IUP Football Thread

[Fightingscot82]

I knew several people from high school who went there. After reading your post, most of them fit the general profile. It certainly wouldn't be for everybody but I could see the appeal for some.

Slippery Rock must seem like the Wild West for GCC students.

Just imagine what college would have been like if we lived in the dorms for 4 years. And there was mandatory church stuff. And there were virtually no students who looked or thought different than us. To me that's a huge problem - I don't know how someone is expected go out into the working world having spent nearly all of their life to that point surrounded by a homogenous population.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I imagine it was decades ago. Most of the rules that would shock us public school kids are mostly things in conflict with their strong social religious views. They don't allow any sort of national student clubs without approval from the trustees, so there are no national fraternities (only GCC founded ones) and only national academic honor societies that have been approved by the trustees, etc. Surprisingly they have a College Democrats club. They require you live on campus unless commuting from your parents house. They recently eliminated any sort of office or programs supporting non-white students because a task force report said they didn't believe it could exist without any sort of outside agenda, so according to what they told the feds, there were exactly 15 Black students at GCC in 2021-22. I imagine most were recruited to play a sport. The ways to get "kicked out" are big violations of conservative Christian beliefs: pornography (their campus internet blocks it), premarital sex, masturbation, romantic sleepovers, alcohol/drugs, etc. They are exempt from Title IX (federal rules dictating men & women get equal treatment) so they can get away with a ban on sororities. There are two women's groups on campus: an advisory group related to school policies and a women's Bible study group. There is one multicultural group on campus.

But yes, its a great school academically. I believe considered a top value for certain types of engineering. But everything flows through that Christian conservative lens, so being in the wild working with the animals takes some adjustment. Its not all Bible thumpers and women looking for a nice Christian boy to marry. I have a friend who went there to play football and I was SHOCKED when he told me he went to Grove City. The town is no longer dry so there are students who enjoy themselves as long as they don't come back to campus drunk. They also venture to nearby Westminster and Slippery Rock for parties. GCC gets annoyed because SRU won't call them to tattle on their students.

I knew several people from high school who went there. After reading your post, most of them fit the general profile. It certainly wouldn't be for everybody but I could see the appeal for some.

Slippery Rock must seem like the Wild West for GCC students.

[Fightingscot82]

Is walking on the grass there actually treated as a borderline criminal act or was that always a wise tale?

I imagine it was decades ago. Most of the rules that would shock us public school kids are mostly things in conflict with their strong social religious views. They don't allow any sort of national student clubs without approval from the trustees, so there are no national fraternities (only GCC founded ones) and only national academic honor societies that have been approved by the trustees, etc. Surprisingly they have a College Democrats club. They require you live on campus unless commuting from your parents house. They recently eliminated any sort of office or programs supporting non-white students because a task force report said they didn't believe it could exist without any sort of outside agenda, so according to what they told the feds, there were exactly 15 Black students at GCC in 2021-22. I imagine most were recruited to play a sport. The ways to get "kicked out" are big violations of conservative Christian beliefs: pornography (their campus internet blocks it), premarital sex, masturbation, romantic sleepovers, alcohol/drugs, etc. They are exempt from Title IX (federal rules dictating men & women get equal treatment) so they can get away with a ban on sororities. There are two women's groups on campus: an advisory group related to school policies and a women's Bible study group. There is one multicultural group on campus.

But yes, its a great school academically. I believe considered a top value for certain types of engineering. But everything flows through that Christian conservative lens, so being in the wild working with the animals takes some adjustment. Its not all Bible thumpers and women looking for a nice Christian boy to marry. I have a friend who went there to play football and I was SHOCKED when he told me he went to Grove City. The town is no longer dry so there are students who enjoy themselves as long as they don't come back to campus drunk. They also venture to nearby Westminster and Slippery Rock for parties. GCC gets annoyed because SRU won't call them to tattle on their students.

[IUPNation]

I suspect we'll hear some football news this week. They had quite a few transfer players in this weekend for visits.

They must have had a good fundraising year because they had some players in from all over.

We need a Sugar Daddy.

[IUPNation]

Grove City is a great college!! It teaches the right stuff these young adults need these days!

I wouldn’t send a dog there.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I suspect we'll hear some football news this week. They had quite a few transfer players in this weekend for visits.

They must have had a good fundraising year because they had some players in from all over.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Grove City is a great college!! It teaches the right stuff these young adults need these days!

Is walking on the grass there actually treated as a borderline criminal act or was that always a wise tale?

[IUP Crimson Hawk]

She can probably get into Grove City without a problem. Her post would probably get her a scholarship there.

Grove City is a great college!! It teaches the right stuff these young adults need these days!

[iupgroundhog]

There are about a dozen. The two most well-known are Grove City and Hillsdale but most others are seminaries and Bible colleges. Since they refuse to participate in federal student aid or federal research funding (and they're private) they don't have to follow Title IX for gender equity. I wouldn't want my daughter attending a school that refuses to follow federal guidelines for addressing reports of sexual misconduct.

Isn't it also true that those schools cannot accept federal aid as tuition?

Edit: I guess you said that.

[Fightingscot82]

Wow, I didn't know that about Grove City.

There are about a dozen. The two most well-known are Grove City and Hillsdale but most others are seminaries and Bible colleges. Since they refuse to participate in federal student aid or federal research funding (and they're private) they don't have to follow Title IX for gender equity. I wouldn't want my daughter attending a school that refuses to follow federal guidelines for addressing reports of sexual misconduct.

[IUPNation]

Grove City is batsh*t crazy but not overtly racist. Yes, they believe the DeSantis "learning black history is anti-white hate" trope, but I imagine even they'd toss a student who posted something racist at a campus event about other students. They're private so they can toss you for this - but also for things like being anything but heterosexual, caught having sex, spending the night with someone, etc. because they refuse to accept federal student aid. It’the dominant social culture because their big donor alumni control that kind of stuff.

Isn’t there a really looney tune small college in the city as well.

[iupgroundhog]

Very happy that the IUP community so quickly moved against such a hateful statement by this student. We all know IUP isn't exactly the liberal indoctrination center some think it is - nor are the surrounding communities - so its nice to see folks call out and hold her accountable socially. My hope is that she honestly thinks about what she said and learns something - not just that she shouldn't have said it.

What we want to avoid as a society is where people stand up for her and it's legitimized. I'm not sure how far we are from that but it seems like we're getting closer. Let's face it, this young lady is just the tip of the iceberg.

[iupgroundhog]

because they refuse to accept federal student aid. .

Wow, I didn't know that about Grove City.

[Fightingscot82]

She can probably get into Grove City without a problem. Her post would probably get her a scholarship there.

Grove City is batsh*t crazy but not overtly racist. Yes, they believe the DeSantis "learning black history is anti-white hate" trope, but I imagine even they'd toss a student who posted something racist at a campus event about other students. They're private so they can toss you for this - but also for things like being anything but heterosexual, caught having sex, spending the night with someone, etc. because they refuse to accept federal student aid. Its the dominant social culture because their big donor alumni control that kind of stuff.

[IUPNation]

As it should be, that issue is still a major issue on campus.

That young lady is very fortunate she wasn't physically harmed immediately after the basketball game (as she was obviously followed out of the building by those filming her).

I don't understand the world of Snapchat but that's apparently where her post was made. It quickly went viral within the KCAC student section and they (angered students) were able to quickly trace it back to her (while she was at the game). Her name went public within minutes.

So, yeah, she was done here. She looks like your typical little preppy white girl. I'd assume she'll just transfer within the system and hope her story doesn't follow her.

She can probably get into Grove City without a problem. Her post would probably get her a scholarship there.