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  • Destin is a great place. It is conservative and values the rule of law. If you dont like that...you probably would do best to stay in Indiana County Pa.

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    • Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

      Destin and along 30A is some of the best beaches in the world.
      Doesn’t matter..the people there aren’t my crowd.



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      • Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

        Destin and along 30A is some of the best beaches in the world.
        A lot of nice beaches sure. I’d be concerned about the hurricane risk if I was attending a Florida school as an out-of-state student. Some of my family down in Florida tell me that the state and various municipalities are still picking up the pieces from Ian nearly two years later. Obviously most storms aren’t going to be Category 5s but the back end of hurricane season does overlap with the fall semester at a lot of schools.
        “No matter how badly things get blown apart, we will always plant flowers again.”

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        • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

          Doesn’t matter..the people there aren’t my crowd.


          I'm sure you could convince some to really be who they really are LOL

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          • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

            I'm sure you could convince some to really be who they really are LOL
            I’m sure it’s a nice place to visit. I’ll never know.

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            • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

              Doesn’t matter..the people there aren’t my crowd.


              I get it, but you don't have to hang out with anyone lol. Rosemary is beautiful and pretty easy to keep to yourself/family and have a great time.

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              • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                I’m sure it’s a nice place to visit. I’ll never know.
                I was saying that there are probably more of your crowd there than are comfortable admitting LOL

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                • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                  I was saying that there are probably more of your crowd there than are comfortable admitting LOL
                  The way things are going Nation and his "crowd" might be illegal down there soon.

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                  • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
                    Another example of how the PSAC plays in a different world in D2 football. West Florida got $9 million dollars for naming rights to their new football stadium. Can you imagine how much half of that could do to any one of our stadiums?
                    Stadium, hell. Can you imagine what a $9 million gift would mean for the endowment funds at any of our schools? I doubt most of the endowments are even sniffing $100 million. A gift that would boost your endowment by 10-15 percent overnight would be a real game-changer.

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                    • Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

                      Stadium, hell. Can you imagine what a $9 million gift would mean for the endowment funds at any of our schools? I doubt most of the endowments are even sniffing $100 million. A gift that would boost your endowment by 10-15 percent overnight would be a real game-changer.
                      A mega donor coming out of the woodwork would be nice.

                      The top football programs in the PSAC West all play in dumps.

                      Of the three, I'd probably say Cal is the nicest stadium (overall). The visiting section at Adamson is terrible and the locker rooms (home and away) are pretty bad. The home side is very nice. Adamson is awful for older visiting fans. It's a very long haul to the visiting side and the restrooms and concessions are in the far corner (on the home side).

                      Slippery Rock can hold a lot but is just a big, old high school-type stadium. The visiting team gets split in to two locker rooms / closets. Concessions are very limited. Visiting restrooms are new and nice. SRU - without question - has the best tailgate scene in the West.

                      IUP's Miller Stadium is a dump. It's falling apart by the year. The ugly perimeter chain-link fencing looked terrible when it was brand new. It's really bad now decades later. The home side restrooms were last updated ... never. It's a trip back in time. The press box is well-documented. The tailgate scene is OK but extremely over-priced ($65/spot/game). Most park on campus for free and walk over. On top of it, the stadium is messy. They leave track stuff everywhere, soccer nets, etc.

                      Moving North, Gannon's kickball/softball/baseball/football stadium is off the rails awful. Parking is a disaster. The visiting bleachers are three rows high (not joking).

                      I'd grade out Edinboro and Clarion fairly similar (average).

                      Seton Hill plays at a high school stadium but ironically may have the nicest venue in the West. There's no track so the fans are close. The locker rooms are close to the field. Parking is a nightmare but they only get 150 a game so it doesn't really matter.


                      So, I guess if a mega donor did emerge ... I'd rather they dump the money in to scholarships. IUP, Cal and SRU have won for a long time with their crappy facilities. They've just never had enough money in the scholarship piggy bank to take the next step. Cal almost did there for a bit, but, well, that's a different story.

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                      • Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

                        The way things are going Nation and his "crowd" might be illegal down there soon.
                        No doubt.

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                        • Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

                          Stadium, hell. Can you imagine what a $9 million gift would mean for the endowment funds at any of our schools? I doubt most of the endowments are even sniffing $100 million. A gift that would boost your endowment by 10-15 percent overnight would be a real game-changer.
                          IUP is at 75 million in endowment.

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                          • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                            A mega donor coming out of the woodwork would be nice.

                            The top football programs in the PSAC West all play in dumps.

                            Of the three, I'd probably say Cal is the nicest stadium (overall). The visiting section at Adamson is terrible and the locker rooms (home and away) are pretty bad. The home side is very nice. Adamson is awful for older visiting fans. It's a very long haul to the visiting side and the restrooms and concessions are in the far corner (on the home side).

                            Slippery Rock can hold a lot but is just a big, old high school-type stadium. The visiting team gets split in to two locker rooms / closets. Concessions are very limited. Visiting restrooms are new and nice. SRU - without question - has the best tailgate scene in the West.

                            IUP's Miller Stadium is a dump. It's falling apart by the year. The ugly perimeter chain-link fencing looked terrible when it was brand new. It's really bad now decades later. The home side restrooms were last updated ... never. It's a trip back in time. The press box is well-documented. The tailgate scene is OK but extremely over-priced ($65/spot/game). Most park on campus for free and walk over. On top of it, the stadium is messy. They leave track stuff everywhere, soccer nets, etc.

                            Moving North, Gannon's kickball/softball/baseball/football stadium is off the rails awful. Parking is a disaster. The visiting bleachers are three rows high (not joking).

                            I'd grade out Edinboro and Clarion fairly similar (average).

                            Seton Hill plays at a high school stadium but ironically may have the nicest venue in the West. There's no track so the fans are close. The locker rooms are close to the field. Parking is a nightmare but they only get 150 a game so it doesn't really matter.


                            So, I guess if a mega donor did emerge ... I'd rather they dump the money in to scholarships. IUP, Cal and SRU have won for a long time with their crappy facilities. They've just never had enough money in the scholarship piggy bank to take the next step. Cal almost did there for a bit, but, well, that's a different story.
                            East stadiums aren’t any better.

                            If any of you join me in Millersville this fall, we’ll be sitting on a metal visiting stand and make sure you wear sun screen or you will be baked on it. All concession and loo’s are on the home side. It’s okay…but it’s no wow factor. Bloomsburg has the view but again other than their fairly new press box and new visitor loo’s it’s again nothing eye popping. Walk On U..same thing.

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                            • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                              A mega donor coming out of the woodwork would be nice.

                              The top football programs in the PSAC West all play in dumps.

                              Of the three, I'd probably say Cal is the nicest stadium (overall). The visiting section at Adamson is terrible and the locker rooms (home and away) are pretty bad. The home side is very nice. Adamson is awful for older visiting fans. It's a very long haul to the visiting side and the restrooms and concessions are in the far corner (on the home side).

                              Slippery Rock can hold a lot but is just a big, old high school-type stadium. The visiting team gets split in to two locker rooms / closets. Concessions are very limited. Visiting restrooms are new and nice. SRU - without question - has the best tailgate scene in the West.

                              IUP's Miller Stadium is a dump. It's falling apart by the year. The ugly perimeter chain-link fencing looked terrible when it was brand new. It's really bad now decades later. The home side restrooms were last updated ... never. It's a trip back in time. The press box is well-documented. The tailgate scene is OK but extremely over-priced ($65/spot/game). Most park on campus for free and walk over. On top of it, the stadium is messy. They leave track stuff everywhere, soccer nets, etc.

                              Moving North, Gannon's kickball/softball/baseball/football stadium is off the rails awful. Parking is a disaster. The visiting bleachers are three rows high (not joking).

                              I'd grade out Edinboro and Clarion fairly similar (average).

                              Seton Hill plays at a high school stadium but ironically may have the nicest venue in the West. There's no track so the fans are close. The locker rooms are close to the field. Parking is a nightmare but they only get 150 a game so it doesn't really matter.


                              So, I guess if a mega donor did emerge ... I'd rather they dump the money in to scholarships. IUP, Cal and SRU have won for a long time with their crappy facilities. They've just never had enough money in the scholarship piggy bank to take the next step. Cal almost did there for a bit, but, well, that's a different story.
                              Most of our schools have one, maybe two potential mega donors. IUP just cashed in one of theirs. Mega donor by our standards is probably $5 million or more. And most will want to support McPASSHE's Little Lebowski Urban Achievers program and not football. We just don't have that universal school spirit where the average students and alumni care about football.

                              Edinboro is the latest to upgrade the lipstick on a 60 year old stadium complex. In the last couple years they've redone the locker room, score board, and turf. All look much better. But its like buying nice new shiny rims for your well-kept 1999 Acura Integra. Was once fun and attractive, now just serviceable and low maintenance. Edinboro's home side is pressed concrete that has been patched for decades. I have a feeling that if something catastrophic happens to it, they'll just adjust to the newer, steel structured away side.

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                              • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                                IUP is at 75 million in endowment.
                                Ship, I believe, is closing in on 60 million, but it has had a smaller number of students than IUP for as long as I can remember. Dickinson, the small private school in Carlisle, had about a $600 million endowment last I heard.

                                I think part of what's hurt our schools in the past is that we were primarily teachers' colleges until relatively recently, which didn't lead to a lot of high-income alums. Also, people would say why support a state school sinces taxes already do so. There was some truth to that argument when 60-70 percent of the budget was covered by state money — not so much now that the support has dropped below 25 percent at many schools.

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