Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[canadarican]

I'm just here to try and push this thread to page 83.

Oh and Witt is 100% dead on about Jamestown

[laker]

On a related note- has anyone heard more about what will happen to the surviving members of the North Star?

[Purple Mav Man]

VKF. their motivation for D2 is survival as an athletic program and school.

Thank you Stanger86 and Witt for benefits of adding Jamestown University. Will be a tough row for them to hoe, but who knows 5-10 years where they will be competition wise. For the most part the league rescued them.

Seems like a winning combo.

[njmav1]

On a related note- has anyone heard more about what will happen to the surviving members of the North Star?

Should this thread be expanded to include the surviving members of the North Star? It might kickstart this thread again.

[Purple Mav Man]

Should this thread be expanded to include the surviving members of the North Star? It might kickstart this thread again.

I don’t see why not. They’ll probably end up in the NSIC eventually too.

[laker]

Should this thread be expanded to include the surviving members of the North Star? It might kickstart this thread again.

Dakota State I can see. But then it would be uneven again.

[zimmy21]

Should this thread be expanded to include the surviving members of the North Star? It might kickstart this thread again.

I'd much rather contract than see anyone else join. There's no value added again by any remaining teams in the NSAA. Jamestown and the remaining 4 NSAA schools should be added to the UMAC and call it a day

[zimmy21]

Dakota State I can see. But then it would be uneven again.

Is there even any gains made by adding Dakota State?
Small schools in the middle of nowhere, with little to no athletic success

[SW_Mustang]

Is there even any gains made by adding Dakota State?
Small schools in the middle of nowhere, with little to no athletic success

We're going in circles at this point in the discussion. I'm not advocating for Dakota State to join the conference, but there are a couple of notable features they have:

-If they are able to realize their full athletic facilities plan, it would catapult them into the upper echelon of the NSIC (pound-for-pound).
-They are well within the conference footprint.
-They have a collection of dedicated alumni with deep pockets - I'd go as far as to say they'd be the envy of many NSIC schools.
-They seem to have gained a lot of favor with the state government thanks to their cybersecurity program, who in turn seems to be investing nicely back into them.

Now that being said, there are two things I don't like (and they are big ones):

-Current state, they are simply not good at sports. I know a few people who went there and the athletics is... bad. Basketball seems to be a bit better now, but still not great.
-Objectively speaking, Madison sucks. It's not entirely their fault being sandwiched between Brookings and Sioux Falls, but the town is not... good. It's going to be a tough community to recruit too. (However the town is larger than Fayette and Wayne, for what that's worth).

That's how I see it anyway. I want Morningside first and St. John's second in a perfect world, but that ain't gonna happen either.

[Finchwidget]

Should this thread be expanded to include the surviving members of the North Star? It might kickstart this thread again.

If the backlash to Jamestown can fill 80+ pages worth of posts, I shudder thinking of how you guys would react to Bellevue

[zimmy21]

If the backlash to Jamestown can fill 80+ pages worth of posts, I shudder thinking of how you guys would react to Bellevue

Just wait and see at this point...No more castoffs for "Security's" sake

[zimmy21]

We're going in circles at this point in the discussion. I'm not advocating for Dakota State to join the conference, but there are a couple of notable features they have:

-If they are able to realize their full athletic facilities plan, it would catapult them into the upper echelon of the NSIC (pound-for-pound).
-They are well within the conference footprint.
-They have a collection of dedicated alumni with deep pockets - I'd go as far as to say they'd be the envy of many NSIC schools.
-They seem to have gained a lot of favor with the state government thanks to their cybersecurity program, who in turn seems to be investing nicely back into them.

Now that being said, there are two things I don't like (and they are big ones):

-Current state, they are simply not good at sports. I know a few people who went there and the athletics is... bad. Basketball seems to be a bit better now, but still not great.
-Objectively speaking, Madison sucks. It's not entirely their fault being sandwiched between Brookings and Sioux Falls, but the town is not... good. It's going to be a tough community to recruit too. (However the town is larger than Fayette and Wayne, for what that's worth).

That's how I see it anyway. I want Morningside first and St. John's second in a perfect world, but that ain't gonna happen either.

Well hopefully the facility upgrades happen, and the results improve. As for right now I'm passing on everyone and dropping 3 from our current numbers.

[SW_Mustang]

Well hopefully the facility upgrades happen, and the results improve. As for right now I'm passing on everyone and dropping 3 from our current numbers.

I hope it happens for their sake - but current state I'm not interested in adding them. Honestly, I've looked through the facility improvements and they are very cool - but who knows if they'll actually get to phase two (and 3). SMSU never did.

I wanna ship SCSU to the Summit so they can play pretend D1 with that bizzare collection of schools, and bounce Crookston to wherever they may roam after the NSIC. Neither of those two will ever happen though.

[SW_Mustang]

For those curious - this is their master plan. I believe they already started on phase 1 of the project:

DSU Athletics Master Plan

Their total goal was $100 million and they had $45 million back in February of 2022 according to a press release. Not sure what it's at now. I thought about kicking them over a Jefferson, maybe even a full Benjamin.

EDIT: They received a $7 million donation in 2023 just for the indoor practice facility.

[Northeast01]

On a related note- has anyone heard more about what will happen to the surviving members of the North Star?

Mayville State has submitted an exploratory application to D3.

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/com...eb26Agenda.pdf