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[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Maybe with the normal 3 guards they are a lot faster to run the whole floor. I'm not sure the speed of Kri but I do know Willem and Cobo don't light up the radar gun.

It's a nice luxury. Nights you play an SRU you can go with the big lineup. Other nights the guard lineup.


IUP starts at 7 p.m. tonight and Pitt kicks off at 7:30 p.m.

Not a bad night.

[IUPalum]

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Yeah, that's true. Who knows. Maybe the notion was considered but they've determined Armoni needs to be on the floor more. That would have been a major philosophical change to Joe's system. It could have just been the team they were playing and the match-ups.

In the team photo ... I think Chuckie is standing on a bucket. Just sayin'

Maybe with the normal 3 guards they are a lot faster to run the whole floor. I'm not sure the speed of Kri but I do know Willem and Cobo don't light up the radar gun.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Why is it risky? A big gets in foul trouble then you go to Humphries or go to the three guard look.

Yeah, that's true. Who knows. Maybe the notion was considered but they've determined Armoni needs to be on the floor more. That would have been a major philosophical change to Joe's system. It could have just been the team they were playing and the match-ups.

In the team photo ... I think Chuckie is standing on a bucket. Just sayin'

[IUP CRIMSON HAWKS]

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I was doing some spot reading last night regarding the Bedford County Hall of Fame and came across the name of former IUP player Chuck Collins. Does anyone remember him? He was a standout hoops player from Tussey Mountain High School who graduated in 1982. Perhaps some area fans recall that it was Tussey Mountain who ended a great season for the 1981-82 Saltsburg Trojans in the district playoffs in March of 1982. The Trojans were led by such luminaries as Jeff Fulton (now a heart surgeon), Joe Stevenson, Todd Brosko, Glenn Richards, and Jeff Clawson.

Anyways, Collins was considered a D-I post by some but came to IUP for a few years before transferring to Waynesburg. Later he became a high school basketball coach down in Virginia. Rather sadly and shockingly to me---he passed away in 1997 after a bout with Leukemia. I thought that I would just share that with the board readership and forum members.

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[IUPalum]

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You positive Greg is a walk-on? He's no slouch. I thought he was a scholarship recruit 3 years ago (before taking the last two off). Nice size for a guard.

I know Joe thought very high of him coming out of Kiski Prep.

What was surprising was the starting lineup. Earlier Joe had said he was going with the big lineup. Of course he said that when Keyes was around.

With Ulrich redshirting it's probably risky to play all three bigs at the same time in case of foul trouble.

Why is it risky? A big gets in foul trouble then you go to Humphries or go to the three guard look.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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This board gets a little fiery when walk-ons like Greg Bearer play extended minutes. But, perhaps that was just a one-game thing. We'll find out tonight. Here's hoping it will be competitive through at least two media timeouts.

You positive Greg is a walk-on? He's no slouch. I thought he was a scholarship recruit 3 years ago (before taking the last two off). Nice size for a guard.

I know Joe thought very high of him coming out of Kiski Prep.

What was surprising was the starting lineup. Earlier Joe had said he was going with the big lineup. Of course he said that when Keyes was around.

With Ulrich redshirting it's probably risky to play all three bigs at the same time in case of foul trouble.

[hawks16]

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What's with the riddles?

This board gets a little fiery when walk-ons like Greg Bearer play extended minutes. But, perhaps that was just a one-game thing. We'll find out tonight. Here's hoping it will be competitive through at least two media timeouts.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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1. Dante, Malik, Armoni, Cobo, Willem
2. Cobo
3a. 3 -- eight-man rotation

And 3b is the impossible part...also, the long-timers might burn the board down when they hear the answer

What's with the riddles?

[hawks16]

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So since the scrimmage isn't something that counts for either team and wasn't really supposed to be publicized...let's play some impossible trivia! You won't win. (Keep your answers in the form of questions.)

1. These players were in the starting five.
2. This IUP player had 30 points and 19 rebounds
3a. How many bench players recorded minutes?
3b. This player led the reserves in minutes played.

1. Dante, Malik, Armoni, Cobo, Willem
2. Cobo
3a. 3 -- eight-man rotation

And 3b is the impossible part...also, the long-timers might burn the board down when they hear the answer

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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I saw who they were scrimmaging in a social media post...and then saw the score of the scrimmage from that link a few posts back from the Lexington newspaper. The writer probably wouldn't have otherwise used the score in the story if IUP hadn't just beaten a D-I team. The next paragraph talked about how IUP was somewhat of a Division II dynasty.

Good hint. Good article.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.kentu...220886660.html

[hawks16]

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I saw who they were scrimmaging in a social media post...and then saw the score of the scrimmage from that link a few posts back from the Lexington newspaper. The writer probably wouldn't have otherwise used the score in the story if IUP hadn't just beaten a D-I team. The next paragraph talked about how IUP was somewhat of a Division II dynasty.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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So since the scrimmage isn't something that counts for either team and wasn't really supposed to be publicized...let's play some impossible trivia! You won't win. (Keep your answers in the form of questions.)

1. These players were in the starting five.
2. This IUP player had 30 points and 19 rebounds
3a. How many bench players recorded minutes?
3b. This player led the reserves in minutes played.

To play devil's advocate here ... this non-publicized scrimmage is only publicized because you announced it.

I'm glad you did ... but would have to qualify the information as a leak from good sources. lol.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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So since the scrimmage isn't something that counts for either team and wasn't really supposed to be publicized...let's play some impossible trivia! You won't win. (Keep your answers in the form of questions.)

1. These players were in the starting five.
2. This IUP player had 30 points and 19 rebounds
3a. How many bench players recorded minutes?
3b. This player led the reserves in minutes played.

1. Cobo, Willem, Marko, Dante, Malik
2. Willem
3. All of them
4. Armoni


30 and 19 is a stat line not seen around here in .... a long time. Dennis Mimms, maybe.

[hawks16]

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So since the scrimmage isn't something that counts for either team and wasn't really supposed to be publicized...let's play some impossible trivia! You won't win. (Keep your answers in the form of questions.)

1. These players were in the starting five.
2. This IUP player had 30 points and 19 rebounds
3a. How many bench players recorded minutes?
3b. This player led the reserves in minutes played.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Here's the actual breakdown of the past (3) years in question (i.e. the Dante and Cobo era):

Overall record: 71-20

West titles: 3

Non-conference record: 12-6

PSAC Tournament record: 2-3

Home record: 42-9
Away record: 28-9
Neutral: 1-2

NCAA record: 1-1


Those numbers tell a lot of stories. The main point is 1 NCAA win in three years. You can't get around that one.

We could probably list a whole slew of items that have led to this stretch ... some misses on recruits, injuries, suspensions, schedules, etc.

The 'weakest' non-conference schedule they've played was two years ago and they went 28-4 (only NCAA year). IUP went 5-1 in non-conference during this season with the only loss coming in OT against Fairmont State (who eventually lost in the national title game).

I have NO DOUBT that playing these hero schedules has cost them two of the past three tournaments. They don't help get you ready for March ... when you're at home watching on TV.

The depth thing has been just baffling. The redshirting has been baffling. Will it happen again? Odds probably say yes.

The Dante factor is certainly one believed by many. No hiding that item. But, he hasn't been the whole problem. Has he cost them some games? No doubt.

My conclusion is they've had talent. There is ZERO reason they shouldn't have made all three tournaments.

For those of us who watch every game, you can pick moments in each season.

Three years ago WCU hit a Hail Mary in the PSAC Tournament. A week before Joe blew his top and lost at Seton Hill. Poof.

Last year, starting 0-2 was just devastating. Malik missing a month on a team with no depth. Seton Hill (again) debacle and the Glover suspension. Keyes getting sat for reasons nobody still understands. By the way, it sounds like he's going to AGAIN do this -- Ulrich is likely taking the redshirt.


The only thing I know is every season starts fresh. It's a fun ride. Highs and lows.

I will tell you this, ICH, I like this team. Nobody in D2 has the post trio IUP has this year. I can't say I've liked the past three teams all that much -- although they did make things interesting.

All of that said, this team is going as far as Dante takes them. Like it not, he's flying the plane. He's a senior now. Time to play like one.

Don't forget the 'legend' of DeVante Chance didn't really become THE 'DeVante Chance' until his senior year.