PASSHE Institutions Merging

[EastStroud13]

Of my coworkers whose college aged kids not attending the Harvard of Butler County, PA, here is where they're going:

WVU
Tampa
Florida International
Central Florida
South Florida
Alabama
Georgia Southern

This school would be tuition free, all other PASSHE schools half tuition. But yes, pay out of state tuition elsewhere.

Looks like all of these are either big-time schools or southern schools. I like PASSHE but if a student is looking for a big-time experience or warm weather, there's not much it can do.

[Fightingscot82]

Of my coworkers whose college aged kids not attending the Harvard of Butler County, PA, here is where they're going:

WVU
Tampa
Florida International
Central Florida
South Florida
Alabama
Georgia Southern

This school would be tuition free, all other PASSHE schools half tuition. But yes, pay out of state tuition elsewhere.

[IUPNation]

Not to me. I could care less about the NFL.

Each his own.

Nothing is like winning a title in Philadelphia…

This is what it's like being a Philadelphia sports fans when we win that rare title....no SEC foosball fan will ever feel like this.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Yet the Stillers or the Iggles winning a Super Bowl beats all of that….

Not to me. I could care less about the NFL.

Each his own.

[IUPNation]

I've been to games at both Auburn and Alabama. Both are great.

Alabama is fantastic -- once you are parked. It is a total nightmare. I have a client that is a 30-year season ticket holder and the best parking lot pass he can get is more than a mile from Bryant-Denny Stadium. The stadium is literally in the middle of the city. So, you have 100,000 inside, and another who knows how many outside without tickets -- all trying to park. People who live in the vicinity (with alley spots, for example) make crazy money selling those spots 7 times a year. Some of them are like $1k+ per game - and people buy the whole home schedule up front.

Alabama's campus is beautiful. I kind of like the overall experience better at Auburn (just my personal opinion).

I've also been to Knoxville for a Florida Gators visit ... which was just utter insanity. The first time you hear 110,000 people sing Rocky Top in person is pretty surreal.

Yet the Stillers or the Iggles winning a Super Bowl beats all of that….

[IUPbigINDIANS]

She said Auburn is like State College. It’s all rural and Deliverance like outside of Auburn (like it is going to State College) but once you are in town it’s more liberal like State College proper.

I've been to games at both Auburn and Alabama. Both are great.

Alabama is fantastic -- once you are parked. It is a total nightmare. I have a client that is a 30-year season ticket holder and the best parking lot pass he can get is more than a mile from Bryant-Denny Stadium. The stadium is literally in the middle of the city. So, you have 100,000 inside, and another who knows how many outside without tickets -- all trying to park. People who live in the vicinity (with alley spots, for example) make crazy money selling those spots 7 times a year. Some of them are like $1k+ per game - and people buy the whole home schedule up front.

Alabama's campus is beautiful. I kind of like the overall experience better at Auburn (just my personal opinion).

I've also been to Knoxville for a Florida Gators visit ... which was just utter insanity. The first time you hear 110,000 people sing Rocky Top in person is pretty surreal.

[IUPNation]

Auburn is so remote, too. But, once you're on campus, it's like its own world.

They have the Pitt / Penn State (little brother) syndrome toward Tuscaloosa but it's much, much worse. Conversely, Alabama looks down at Auburn much the same way PSU does to Pitt.

College football-wise, my opinion, nothing comes close to being on those campuses on an SEC Saturday. Pure insanity. If you can ever attend an Iron Bowl, do it without hesitation. Incredible.

She said Auburn is like State College. It’s all rural and Deliverance like outside of Auburn (like it is going to State College) but once you are in town it’s more liberal like State College proper.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Auburn is remote? I never realized that.

Oh yeah. It's in the middle of nowhere in bum-f*ck Alabama. Beautiful place, but it's out there.

[Tdobson]

Auburn is remote? I never realized that.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Auburn is the classic football-centered Southern party school. They offer fewer total sports than many PASSHE schools. And of course their Einstein of a former football coach, Tommy Tuberville, is now a U.S. Senator. He's the guy, who when asked to name the three branches of the federal government, said the House, the Senate, and the Executive.

Auburn is so remote, too. But, once you're on campus, it's like its own world.

They have the Pitt / Penn State (little brother) syndrome toward Tuscaloosa but it's much, much worse. Conversely, Alabama looks down at Auburn much the same way PSU does to Pitt.

College football-wise, my opinion, nothing comes close to being on those campuses on an SEC Saturday. Pure insanity. If you can ever attend an Iron Bowl, do it without hesitation. Incredible.

[Ship69]

Duquesne isn't even Villanova.

And Villanova isn't all that either.

I agree that once you are in the workforce for a while, your degree matters less and your work history and skills matter more.

A degree gets a 21-22 year old in the door someplace if they find a decent employer.

In my group, the schools I know of where my co-workers graduated from are obviously IUP (and I am the top scheduler). Walk On U, North Carolina A&T, Cabrini, Susquehanna, and yes...Penn State. You really don't need a degree either. We have co workers who started in very low level jobs back in the day and they just worked themselves up into the job levels that required a degree if you are coming off the street.

As for PA students, I had a good conversation yesterday at the pool with our lifeguard who is starting her full time job today. She graduated from Auburn but is from here. She said kids up here are seeing videos online of all the fun there is to have at these big southern party foosball schools and that is where they want to go.

So this is why small private colleges are going to keep struggling because they are no fun. Our schools will just be getting all the overflow if they can't get into these big party foosball schools and the kids who just want to go to school, get done and get one with it.

Auburn is the classic football-centered Southern party school. They offer fewer total sports than many PASSHE schools. And of course their Einstein of a former football coach, Tommy Tuberville, is now a U.S. Senator. He's the guy, who when asked to name the three branches of the federal government, said the House, the Senate, and the Executive.

[IUPNation]

That's unfortunately how the world works. They might as well get used to it.

I just get a kick out of the Duquesne grad with a marketing degree who acts high and mighty -- while working for state school 'peasants' (who got the same degree for half price).

I think (by and large) by the time you're in your 30s nobody cares where you went to school. I couldn't tell you where one person I work with daily went to college. Nor, of course, do I care.

Duquesne isn't even Villanova.

And Villanova isn't all that either.

I agree that once you are in the workforce for a while, your degree matters less and your work history and skills matter more.

A degree gets a 21-22 year old in the door someplace if they find a decent employer.

In my group, the schools I know of where my co-workers graduated from are obviously IUP (and I am the top scheduler). Walk On U, North Carolina A&T, Cabrini, Susquehanna, and yes...Penn State. You really don't need a degree either. We have co workers who started in very low level jobs back in the day and they just worked themselves up into the job levels that required a degree if you are coming off the street.

As for PA students, I had a good conversation yesterday at the pool with our lifeguard who is starting her full time job today. She graduated from Auburn but is from here. She said kids up here are seeing videos online of all the fun there is to have at these big southern party foosball schools and that is where they want to go.

So this is why small private colleges are going to keep struggling because they are no fun. Our schools will just be getting all the overflow if they can't get into these big party foosball schools and the kids who just want to go to school, get done and get one with it.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Application count and acceptance rate has soared with the Common Application. One application form and the student can select up to 20 colleges. So the best and brightest at North Penn's Woods Keystone Area High School or wherever can apply to all Ivies plus MIT, Carnegie Mellon, Penn State, and Johns Hopkins in one swoop. That doesn't change how many students Penn admits so it makes them appear ultra selective. There's no legal mandate that they justify their acceptances. So in theory, the 4.0 GPA and 1450 SAT kid from Bald Eagle Area isn't getting in but the 3.1 GPA 1200 SAT kid whose dad made an unsolicited $2.5 million donation gets in to Harvard while Johnny Bucktail goes to Penn State.

That's unfortunately how the world works. They might as well get used to it.

I just get a kick out of the Duquesne grad with a marketing degree who acts high and mighty -- while working for state school 'peasants' (who got the same degree for half price).

I think (by and large) by the time you're in your 30s nobody cares where you went to school. I couldn't tell you where one person I work with daily went to college. Nor, of course, do I care.

[IUPNation]

An Edinboro grad was their boss (chefs kiss)

HA!

[Fightingscot82]

...and they all end up with IUP grads as their bosses.

:-)

An Edinboro grad was their boss (chefs kiss)