PASSHE Institutions Merging

[ctrabs74]

We used to see commercials for trade schoools on TV back in the day. Not so much now. Pennco Tech always advertised. I wonder if they are even open?

The automotive school by me is literally called UTI. But they have a lot of students and it’s a big building. It sits next to the Turnpike right off the Downingtown exit.

Our schools should size the day and open trade schools in unused building. Offer crossover classes like accounting and such. You can fill dorms. It might lessen the resentment those in the trades have for those who went to college.

As I recall, a lot of those UTI students lived in an apartment complex up the street from Chester County Hospital in West Chester.

[IUPNation]

I can see that. Mechanics need such specific training anymore and its an attractive field for some. Its not a job that you can just pick up with an opportunity to learn and passion for cars.

PTI/PTC was thriving for a while. They leased an entire apartment complex adjacent to the Mall at Robinson near the Pittsburgh airport. But I question the ROI on these trade schools using either a for-profit model or even just the college pricing model. The cost of operating any college is immense and not only are people less willing to take on the cost/debt to get that education, there are fewer in general to draw from. Pittsburgh has lost art schools, culinary schools, cosmetology schools, and trade schools in the last several years. Yet the union apprentice programs always have vacancies. The "kids are choosing the trades over college" narrative just isn't true.

We used to see commercials for trade schoools on TV back in the day. Not so much now. Pennco Tech always advertised. I wonder if they are even open?

The automotive school by me is literally called UTI. But they have a lot of students and it’s a big building. It sits next to the Turnpike right off the Downingtown exit.

Our schools should size the day and open trade schools in unused building. Offer crossover classes like accounting and such. You can fill dorms. It might lessen the resentment those in the trades have for those who went to college.

[Fightingscot82]

The mechanic training school in the office complex section of my development is full of cars. The students come from all over and they live in an apartment complex about 5 miles north of it…

I can see that. Mechanics need such specific training anymore and its an attractive field for some. Its not a job that you can just pick up with an opportunity to learn and passion for cars.

PTI/PTC was thriving for a while. They leased an entire apartment complex adjacent to the Mall at Robinson near the Pittsburgh airport. But I question the ROI on these trade schools using either a for-profit model or even just the college pricing model. The cost of operating any college is immense and not only are people less willing to take on the cost/debt to get that education, there are fewer in general to draw from. Pittsburgh has lost art schools, culinary schools, cosmetology schools, and trade schools in the last several years. Yet the union apprentice programs always have vacancies. The "kids are choosing the trades over college" narrative just isn't true.

[IUPNation]

Pittsburgh Technical College is closing.

https://triblive.com/news/education-...lege-to-close/

Not even a week after Triangle Tech announced their closure. When you read that colleges are down because kids are choosing trade school, you know that's a lie. There's just too few high school students.

The mechanic training school in the office complex section of my development is full of cars. The students come from all over and they live in an apartment complex about 5 miles north of it…

[Fightingscot82]

Pittsburgh Technical College is closing.

https://triblive.com/news/education-...lege-to-close/

Not even a week after Triangle Tech announced their closure. When you read that colleges are down because kids are choosing trade school, you know that's a lie. There's just too few high school students.

[IUPNation]

UArts developments:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/uarts-cl...-philadelphia/

They aren't going away quietly.

A merger with Temple might be the best thing but I doubt it happens.

[iupgroundhog]

UArts developments:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/uarts-cl...-philadelphia/

[Fightingscot82]

I read that Temple and Drexel are working with the students to transfer. However, not all of those majors, which are very specialized, are offered at the other schools. These students really are getting screwed. I don't understand it. Not teach out provisions. Just we are closing next week.

Edit: After 150 years. That's crazy.

I read that they were already acting as a teach out partner for another closed school. Yikes.

[iupgroundhog]

They were going full bore for next fall too for recruitment.

They folded when the accreditation went away.

It sucks for the students and it sucks for the city.

What will happen to that property...I wonder if the Kimmel Center will take it over.

I got this school property mixed up with High School for the Performing Arts that is down near Washington Ave. I thought that was this college but it's next to the Kimmel Center.

There will be high demand for the property. It's in the heart of the Avenue of the Arts.

Come to think about it, Drexel with all its money could absorb the Univ. of the Arts assets. Temple could, as well.

Meanwhile, I see that St Joe's has the old Univ. of the Sciences campus up for sale.

[IUPNation]

I read that Temple and Drexel are working with the students to transfer. However, not all of those majors, which are very specialized, are offered at the other schools. These students really are getting screwed. I don't understand it. Not teach out provisions. Just we are closing next week.

Edit: After 150 years. That's crazy.

They were going full bore for next fall too for recruitment.

They folded when the accreditation went away.

It sucks for the students and it sucks for the city.

What will happen to that property...I wonder if the Kimmel Center will take it over.

I got this school property mixed up with High School for the Performing Arts that is down near Washington Ave. I thought that was this college but it's next to the Kimmel Center.

[iupgroundhog]

Albright in Reading is not doing well either.

https://www.wfmz.com/_homepage_top_s...spr3ek2vhp44v2

Not only is Albright subject to the trends of small liberal arts schools, it is unfortunately located in a very high crime area. Right, not in the greatest of shape.

[iupgroundhog]

A lot of the students at UA will be able to finish at Temple. Temple actually has a respected Arts college.

I read that Temple and Drexel are working with the students to transfer. However, not all of those majors, which are very specialized, are offered at the other schools. These students really are getting screwed. I don't understand it. Not teach out provisions. Just we are closing next week.

Edit: After 150 years. That's crazy.

[IUPNation]

Yeah most kids aren't studying liberal arts, especially passion majors like music. Throw in private school tuition and the cost of living to attend a city university and you've got a bad proposition. This is where PASSHE should be cleaning their clocks. The one exception that's strange to me because the job prospects seem nebulous is the relative strength in programs like dance or musical theater. They're strong as ever at most schools that have them.

A lot of the private music conservatories where you can only study music performance are struggling, especially those not connected to a 4 year comprehensive school like Eastman at U of Rochester or Peabody at Johns Hopkins.

A lot of the students at UA will be able to finish at Temple. Temple actually has a respected Arts college.

[IUPNation]

Albright in Reading is not doing well either.

https://www.wfmz.com/_homepage_top_s...spr3ek2vhp44v2

[Fightingscot82]

They lost their accreditation.

That’s on top of PAFA no longer having their bachelors programs. Not a good year for Broad Street aka The Avenue of The Arts.

Yeah most kids aren't studying liberal arts, especially passion majors like music. Throw in private school tuition and the cost of living to attend a city university and you've got a bad proposition. This is where PASSHE should be cleaning their clocks. The one exception that's strange to me because the job prospects seem nebulous is the relative strength in programs like dance or musical theater. They're strong as ever at most schools that have them.

A lot of the private music conservatories where you can only study music performance are struggling, especially those not connected to a 4 year comprehensive school like Eastman at U of Rochester or Peabody at Johns Hopkins.