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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Non profit staff...even better.
    Just admit that you are a mistrusting loon. Consultants can't be trusted. The government can't be trusted. Nonprofits can't be trusted. You'd be a great character on the X Files.

    The Penn State report is brutal and honest. Penn State's branch campus situation is so similar to PASSHE. They overbuilt regional campuses and most are now located in communities with nonexistent birth rates and rusting economies. Academically, they are far too general to distinguish themselves, rely too much on impersonal online classes, and don't offer much to their communities other than jobs. When you overbuild for decades, there are looming facilities lifecycle needs that they can't afford. Nearly every campus operates at a deficit that has to be absorbed by the mothership. The best response would be the nuclear option and nobody in their right mind would bring that upon their self. Only 2 or 3 campuses out of 20+ are viable and only one or two are truly distinctive.

    The PASSHE mergers have shown that you can't trim your way out of financial issues caused by piss poor execution of bad plans.

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  • boatcapt
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    [QUOTE=Fightingscot82;n890849]
    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Penn State isn't government. They're a 501c3 non-profit that is state regulated and receives annual state funding in exchange for board seats.
    Non profit staff...even better.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    [QUOTE=boatcapt;n890844]
    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    State employees are not exempt from gobbaldy-gook. Where do you think most government consultants got their start!

    Government and consultant reports operate on the rule of gross tonnage...The validity of a report is directly proportional to its weight, or, why use five words to say something when you can use 20 (along with a table) to convey the same thing!
    Penn State isn't government. They're a 501c3 non-profit that is state regulated and receives annual state funding in exchange for board seats.

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  • boatcapt
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    [QUOTE=Fightingscot82;n890722]
    Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

    Gobbaldy-gook - Lots of unnecessary words used to convey what should be simply stated information. Often used in an attempt to either hide the underlying message or in consultant word, used to give the impression that the study the consultant conducted was worth the money they were given.[/QUOTE]

    Comprehension: the action or capability of understanding something.

    This was an internal study within Penn State. They didn't pay any consultants. Its right in the first couple pages.
    State employees are not exempt from gobbaldy-gook. Where do you think most government consultants got their start!

    Government and consultant reports operate on the rule of gross tonnage...The validity of a report is directly proportional to its weight, or, why use five words to say something when you can use 20 (along with a table) to convey the same thing!
    Last edited by boatcapt; 06-11-2025, 12:43 PM.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    [QUOTE=boatcapt;n890705]

    Gobbaldy-gook - Lots of unnecessary words used to convey what should be simply stated information. Often used in an attempt to either hide the underlying message or in consultant word, used to give the impression that the study the consultant conducted was worth the money they were given.[/QUOTE]

    Comprehension: the action or capability of understanding something.

    This was an internal study within Penn State. They didn't pay any consultants. Its right in the first couple pages.

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  • boatcapt
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    Originally posted by ctrabs74 View Post

    That was more of a sarcastic response more than anything.
    Gobbaldy-gook - Lots of unnecessary words used to convey what should be simply stated information. Often used in an attempt to either hide the underlying message or in consultant word, used to give the impression that the study the consultant conducted was worth the money they were given.

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  • ctrabs74
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    Bureaucratic gobbledy-gook to you, otherwise standard industry jargon understood by those receiving this report. Unsure what words you had trouble with.
    That was more of a sarcastic response more than anything.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by ctrabs74 View Post
    After seemingly years of speculation, seven Penn State campuses (aka "PSU-Lite") will be closing at the end of the 2026-2027 academic year:

    https://psu-gatsby-files-prod.s3.ama...mmendation.pdf

    If you don't feel like reading 140+ pages of bureaucratic gobbledy-gook, here's the campuses which are slated for closure:

    DuBois, Fayette, Mont Alto, New Kensington, Shenango, Wilkes-Barre and York

    Conversely, five PSU-Lite campuses would receive "significant investment" from the PSU system:

    Beaver, Greater Allegheny (McKeesport), Hazleton, Schuylkill and Scranton
    Bureaucratic gobbledy-gook to you, otherwise standard industry jargon understood by those receiving this report. Unsure what words you had trouble with.

    Penn State's problem is similar to what GE went through a decade or so ago. State College is the brand that everyone knows and recognizes, but the entire entity is much larger and doing things the average person would be surprised to learn. Some examples:

    - "Penn State" is in State College where the Nittany Lions play at Beaver Stadium and students eat Creamery ice cream before rioting on College Avenue. But there are 22 additional campuses and a fully online division that operate in near exclusivity of State College.

    - Penn State has a medical school not in State College but in Hershey.

    - Penn State operates a hospital division, Penn State Health, that has 6 hospitals, 5 urgent cares, and 19 imaging centers NOT ONE in State College or adjacent communities. The only hospital in State College is run by the Penn Highlands system out of DuBois.

    - Penn State has TWO law schools on two different campuses: Dickinson School of Law in Carlisle and Penn State Law in State College. That is 100% accurate. Not one law school with two locations. Two separate law schools.

    - Penn State as our Land Grant operates the Cooperative Extension assisting farmers with centers in every single Pennsylvania county (Penn State was founded to promote agricultural science).

    - Penn State also operates "outreach centers" to connect folks in the city limits of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Penn State programs.

    - State State operates a college athletic conference, the Penn State University Athletic Conference (just hear Vanilla Ice explaining its PSUAC, not PSAC), for 13 of the branch campuses to compete against one another at the community college level USCAA.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by ctrabs74 View Post
    After seemingly years of speculation, seven Penn State campuses (aka "PSU-Lite") will be closing at the end of the 2026-2027 academic year:

    https://psu-gatsby-files-prod.s3.ama...mmendation.pdf

    If you don't feel like reading 140+ pages of bureaucratic gobbledy-gook, here's the campuses which are slated for closure:

    DuBois, Fayette, Mont Alto, New Kensington, Shenango, Wilkes-Barre and York

    Conversely, five PSU-Lite campuses would receive "significant investment" from the PSU system:

    Beaver, Greater Allegheny (McKeesport), Hazleton, Schuylkill and Scranton
    Thry should only have 2-3 branches at most….

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  • ctrabs74
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    After seemingly years of speculation, seven Penn State campuses (aka "PSU-Lite") will be closing at the end of the 2026-2027 academic year:

    https://psu-gatsby-files-prod.s3.ama...mmendation.pdf

    If you don't feel like reading 140+ pages of bureaucratic gobbledy-gook, here's the campuses which are slated for closure:

    DuBois, Fayette, Mont Alto, New Kensington, Shenango, Wilkes-Barre and York

    Conversely, five PSU-Lite campuses would receive "significant investment" from the PSU system:

    Beaver, Greater Allegheny (McKeesport), Hazleton, Schuylkill and Scranton

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    Hey McCormick's dad was president at Bloomsburg and the first ever PASSHE chancellor.
    His son is still a POS.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    How are the triads working out behind the scenes?
    To quote one of my favorite scenes from Mad Men...

    NOT GREAT BOB

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    Hey McCormick's dad was president at Bloomsburg and the first ever PASSHE chancellor.
    How are the triads working out behind the scenes?

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    But Bob Casey turned out to be a decent man and Senator..replaced by carpet bagging garbage.
    Hey McCormick's dad was president at Bloomsburg and the first ever PASSHE chancellor.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    The Commonwealth's biggest nepo kid since Bob Casey.
    But Bob Casey turned out to be a decent man and Senator..replaced by carpet bagging garbage.

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