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Originally posted by complaint_hopeful View PostThe real winner in the Integration...consultants:
Everspring Selected by Pennsylvania State System of Higher Education (PASSHE) to Support Digital Growth Across System Universities (prnewswire.com)
There were consultants used for other parts too.
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The real winner in the Integration...consultants:
Everspring Selected by Pennsylvania State System of Higher Education (PASSHE) to Support Digital Growth Across System Universities (prnewswire.com)
There were consultants used for other parts too.
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I suspect that many schools would have built much less housing if they had it to do over. Many built, built, built at the peak of enrollment.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View PostTwo big things driving this for IUP: only charging per-credit tuition (no flat rate for full time) and increased housing/dining costs. The tuition model hurts students who take 15-18 credits per semester (funny because you need to earn 15/semester to graduate in 4 years) and limited writing on it suggests it doesn't really change student scheduling behavior. Until now it probably helped put off some cuts and layoffs. IUP has also heavily invested in housing and dining facilities - traditionally those costs are pushed back on students by increasing fees.
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The two universities doing the best, are the least expensive. Location probably is the bigger influence. Otherwise it's a draw, with the mergers affecting three universities above the average cost and three below.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View PostThat's interesting. So, I guess the question is whether IUP can realign itself to the rest of the system cost-wise. Is there a reason IUP can't lower costs?Last edited by iupgroundhog; 03-23-2021, 11:04 AM.
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Two big things driving this for IUP: only charging per-credit tuition (no flat rate for full time) and increased housing/dining costs. The tuition model hurts students who take 15-18 credits per semester (funny because you need to earn 15/semester to graduate in 4 years) and limited writing on it suggests it doesn't really change student scheduling behavior. Until now it probably helped put off some cuts and layoffs. IUP has also heavily invested in housing and dining facilities - traditionally those costs are pushed back on students by increasing fees.
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That's interesting. So, I guess the question is whether IUP can realign itself to the rest of the system cost-wise. Is there a reason IUP can't lower costs?
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Here's one reason IUP is struggling. Check out the two cheapest PASSHE schools.
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
It places greater emphasis on their high school transcript. Its meant to reduce the cost to applicants. High school GPA is a more reliable metric for predicting student success than SAT score. Kids from lower income communities (rural & urban) also have less access to SAT prep or retaking the exam to achieve a high score. I was a B student in high school who did well on the SAT. My wife was an A student in high school who did very poorly on the SAT. One of us went to an upper middle class suburban high school, the other a small town high school. I took the PSAT and the SAT twice. If I wanted to I could have taken SAT prep courses after school. My wife's high school didn't give the PSAT and there was just one SAT date - the morning after a playoff basketball game and she was a cheerleader.
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Originally posted by ironmaniup View Post
Yes, that is part of it. But the SATs were re-calibrated since the last huge classes 10-15 years ago. So, it might not seems as if they lowered test score requirements, but they didn't raise them to account for the score inflation that has taken place. bottom line is that more kids are qualified to get into Pitt/PSU. Also, some programs at these schools, particularly science programs have higher standards than the basic entrance score requirement, because of the competitive admissions. once there were fewer students, lower performing students were now qualified.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
My interpretation of schools going test-optional is that it is the same thing as accepting applicants with lower test scores.
As I understand it, the idea behind it is to maintain enrollment. If that is the case, yes, there would be a trickle-down effect.
I believe IUP is test-optional right now. I don't know if it's permanent. However, if the "new PASSHE" dives into the area of workforce development tests will be less significant.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
My interpretation of schools going test-optional is that it is the same thing as accepting applicants with lower test scores.
As I understand it, the idea behind it is to maintain enrollment. If that is the case, yes, there would be a trickle-down effect.
I believe IUP is test-optional right now. I don't know if it's permanent. However, if the "new PASSHE" dives into the area of workforce development tests will be less significant.
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