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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

    So you think Stewart is going to be "cool" with being 2nd fiddle then? After being the guy for the last couple years...

    Agree completely on line depth, there should be no end to adding to either of those position groups. Region 1 isn't lacking in depth at the skill positions, it's just up front.
    Stewart won't be second fiddle. He'll be the starter. This is his team now. Not the other way around.

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  • Ram040506
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    No doubt more the merrier.

    My point was I think some other positions were in need of said depth (in particular you can always use more on either line).

    I'm sure the Bloom RB is going to have a big season. I just worry about line depth.

    End of the day Tort is working a salary cap. That's a lot of coin tied up in RBs.
    So you think Stewart is going to be "cool" with being 2nd fiddle then? After being the guy for the last couple years...

    Agree completely on line depth, there should be no end to adding to either of those position groups. Region 1 isn't lacking in depth at the skill positions, it's just up front.

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  • Ram040506
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

    We talk about not having the depth to compete with out-of-region powers then we get depth and we talk about keeping everybody happy. Know what I'm saying?

    IUP has traditionally sought to be 4 deep at RB. Basically, if the 4 are the players I am thinking of, we have 2 elite RB's (whose styles are different, BTW) and 2 guys with a lot of experience for "depth", if that is the appropriate word.

    Also, the "unhappy" theme assumes that the players are me first rather than team players. I don't think that is true.

    Also, don't overlook the FB types they have back there if they choose to use them.
    I don't think RB depth is the type of depth anyone was referring to when competing with the out of region powers. IMO, the depth is strictly in the trenches and that is where our region falls short. I also don't know how you could say that the "unhappy" theme might not apply. That room is now upperclassmen and has been in it through unhappy times. Can't say either way.

    I think you guys wasted scholarship money on a position you really didn't need. Of course this is based on who we think is coming back, so maybe we don't have the full picture here.

    Don't overlook the FB types? You guys certainly don't use them as a threat, so unless that is all of a sudden going to change, I'll overlook it.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

    We talk about not having the depth to compete with out-of-region powers then we get depth and we talk about keeping everybody happy. Know what I'm saying?

    IUP has traditionally sought to be 4 deep at RB. Basically, if the 4 are the players I am thinking of, we have 2 elite RB's (whose styles are different, BTW) and 2 guys with a lot of experience for "depth", if that is the appropriate word.

    Also, the "unhappy" theme assumes that the players are me first rather than team players. I don't think that is true.

    Also, don't overlook the FB types they have back there if they choose to use them.
    No doubt more the merrier.

    My point was I think some other positions were in need of said depth (in particular you can always use more on either line).

    I'm sure the Bloom RB is going to have a big season. I just worry about line depth.

    End of the day Tort is working a salary cap. That's a lot of coin tied up in RBs.

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

    I'm sure all 4 starting caliber backs will be thrilled to get 5-8 carries a game and not whine about it...

    I get that you can never have enough backs, but it just doesn't make sense to me to bring in the Bloom RB. That room is just never going to be satisfied and you guys don't need the bickering. Feel like its just a scab that is going to get scratched.

    Plus on top of that, the way you guys have touted and loaded up on some very talented WR's... are you a running team or a passing team? Just seems like neither part of your extensive weapons are ever going to be happy. In the couple games I watched your QB, it seemed he's most comfortable in the quick game and using his feet as a threat. Is the offensive system creative and flexible enough to keep all these weapons happy?
    We talk about not having the depth to compete with out-of-region powers then we get depth and we talk about keeping everybody happy. Know what I'm saying?

    IUP has traditionally sought to be 4 deep at RB. Basically, if the 4 are the players I am thinking of, we have 2 elite RB's (whose styles are different, BTW) and 2 guys with a lot of experience for "depth", if that is the appropriate word.

    Also, the "unhappy" theme assumes that the players are me first rather than team players. I don't think that is true.

    Also, don't overlook the FB types they have back there if they choose to use them.
    Last edited by iupgroundhog; 02-21-2024, 09:40 AM.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

    I'm sure all 4 starting caliber backs will be thrilled to get 5-8 carries a game and not whine about it...

    I get that you can never have enough backs, but it just doesn't make sense to me to bring in the Bloom RB. That room is just never going to be satisfied and you guys don't need the bickering. Feel like its just a scab that is going to get scratched.

    Plus on top of that, the way you guys have touted and loaded up on some very talented WR's... are you a running team or a passing team? Just seems like neither part of your extensive weapons are ever going to be happy. In the couple games I watched your QB, it seemed he's most comfortable in the quick game and using his feet as a threat. Is the offensive system creative and flexible enough to keep all these weapons happy?

    I'd say they are assuming not all four will finish the season. If you get through a full year with all four RBs you're pretty lucky.

    I thought they could have spent the Monaco money elsewhere but seemed to get jumped for saying so. As we said, they can't all play. And, these aren't all young kids. They are now all upperclassmen, and, at best, they will be splitting carries.

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  • Ship69
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    The Spring Roster isn't out yet, but the rumor is this will be the biggest roster they've had in a long time.

    That's good. That means there shouldn't be many surprises and they had very little turnover.

    I'd assume the transfers from Millersville (LB and DL) and Bloomsburg (RB) will be in the Day 1 plans so it's good they are already here. Same with the WR imports (Clarion and SFU), although they may be depth guys in 2024.

    Karst not being here last Spring, my opinion, really had him behind the 8 Ball. I thought when he returned (after watching for 3-4 weeks) he looked like a totally different player. It seemed that time away helped him re-group and grasp the offense much better. It will also be nice next Fall to have a backup QB who has started several games.

    I am curious to see how Tort handles having four legit starting RBs. I know you can't have enough. I also know they can't all play at the same time. Dayjure Stewart and Adam Houser, for instance, get better the longer they are in the game.
    Speaking of big rosters, I had counted 51 names on the Shippensburg spring roster prior to signing day. At last count, Mac's incoming class was up to 48 players, by far his largest ever. I think it's safe to say there will be some movement on the Raiders' roster in the coming season.

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  • Ram040506
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    The Spring Roster isn't out yet, but the rumor is this will be the biggest roster they've had in a long time.

    That's good. That means there shouldn't be many surprises and they had very little turnover.

    I'd assume the transfers from Millersville (LB and DL) and Bloomsburg (RB) will be in the Day 1 plans so it's good they are already here. Same with the WR imports (Clarion and SFU), although they may be depth guys in 2024.

    Karst not being here last Spring, my opinion, really had him behind the 8 Ball. I thought when he returned (after watching for 3-4 weeks) he looked like a totally different player. It seemed that time away helped him re-group and grasp the offense much better. It will also be nice next Fall to have a backup QB who has started several games.

    I am curious to see how Tort handles having four legit starting RBs. I know you can't have enough. I also know they can't all play at the same time. Dayjure Stewart and Adam Houser, for instance, get better the longer they are in the game.
    I'm sure all 4 starting caliber backs will be thrilled to get 5-8 carries a game and not whine about it...

    I get that you can never have enough backs, but it just doesn't make sense to me to bring in the Bloom RB. That room is just never going to be satisfied and you guys don't need the bickering. Feel like its just a scab that is going to get scratched.

    Plus on top of that, the way you guys have touted and loaded up on some very talented WR's... are you a running team or a passing team? Just seems like neither part of your extensive weapons are ever going to be happy. In the couple games I watched your QB, it seemed he's most comfortable in the quick game and using his feet as a threat. Is the offensive system creative and flexible enough to keep all these weapons happy?

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    The Spring Roster isn't out yet, but the rumor is this will be the biggest roster they've had in a long time.

    That's good. That means there shouldn't be many surprises and they had very little turnover.

    I'd assume the transfers from Millersville (LB and DL) and Bloomsburg (RB) will be in the Day 1 plans so it's good they are already here. Same with the WR imports (Clarion and SFU), although they may be depth guys in 2024.

    Karst not being here last Spring, my opinion, really had him behind the 8 Ball. I thought when he returned (after watching for 3-4 weeks) he looked like a totally different player. It seemed that time away helped him re-group and grasp the offense much better. It will also be nice next Fall to have a backup QB who has started several games.

    I am curious to see how Tort handles having four legit starting RBs. I know you can't have enough. I also know they can't all play at the same time. Dayjure Stewart and Adam Houser, for instance, get better the longer they are in the game.
    When does it all get started?

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
    replied
    The Spring Roster isn't out yet, but the rumor is this will be the biggest roster they've had in a long time.

    That's good. That means there shouldn't be many surprises and they had very little turnover.

    I'd assume the transfers from Millersville (LB and DL) and Bloomsburg (RB) will be in the Day 1 plans so it's good they are already here. Same with the WR imports (Clarion and SFU), although they may be depth guys in 2024.

    Karst not being here last Spring, my opinion, really had him behind the 8 Ball. I thought when he returned (after watching for 3-4 weeks) he looked like a totally different player. It seemed that time away helped him re-group and grasp the offense much better. It will also be nice next Fall to have a backup QB who has started several games.

    I am curious to see how Tort handles having four legit starting RBs. I know you can't have enough. I also know they can't all play at the same time. Dayjure Stewart and Adam Houser, for instance, get better the longer they are in the game.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
    Ladies swimming finished second this year. Pretty good for a school that ignores the non revenue sports.

    Walk On U once again took both men’s and women’s titles.
    Speaking of non-revenue sports, Softball started with a sweep of Wheeling to kick things off. Baseball got off to its annual 0-3 start down at No. 9 UNC-Pembroke.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post
    Ladies swimming finished second this year. Pretty good for a school that ignores the non revenue sports.

    Walk On U once again took both men’s and women’s titles.
    Swimming is one of those programs where dollars aren't as vital as momentum. Often the rich kid sports like field hockey, golf, and lacrosse are the same. They go based on playing time or desire to be part of the program, not because IUP offered $1,500 more than Clarion.

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  • IUPNation
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    Ladies swimming finished second this year. Pretty good for a school that ignores the non revenue sports.

    Walk On U once again took both men’s and women’s titles.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    They straightened 22 significantly between Murrysville and Ebensburg within the last 20 years. I recall driving to State College in the late 90s going up and over hills, past houses, and through nowhere. Now it’s a divided highway with jug handles and lights.
    Yeah I recall how it used to be with passing lanes every so often. It was a rough ride. We used to know how far away from the city we were on our way in from Indiana based on passing the dirty book stores and the Climax 1 titty bar complex
    Last edited by IUPNation; 02-16-2024, 12:27 PM.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    We always drive through Ebensburg. The Bud Shuster Porkway was done while I was there in the 80’s. Same with the new 22. We only had to use the old roads for like my first year or so.
    They straightened 22 significantly between Murrysville and Ebensburg within the last 20 years. I recall driving to State College in the late 90s going up and over hills, past houses, and through nowhere. Now its a divided highway with jug handles and lights.

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