THE IUP Football Thread

[IUPalum]

Thoughts:

1) How the heck can Tort not have this team ready and pumped up for a rivalry game on Homecoming?

2) Game plan on both sides of the ball was god awful for the first quarter or so. WTF did Tort and his boys see on film?

3) Once getting away from the run, why so many damn fade routes to a 5’ 9” Deabner? God awful!

4) Karst obviously doesn’t see the field well. He had guys open and threw to covered ones. Thank god for some interference penalties to offset that deficiency.

5) wtf were the refs doing on Slippery Rock’s final drive. The targeting turned roughing penalty? Wtf, you can tackle a guy hard anymore? There was zero penalty on that play but they decided to call roughing so they didn’t look bad for picking up a flag. Absolutely ridiculous!

6) What were the DBs doing on the game winning TD? Not a chance that ball should’ve been caught!

[Bart]

Wrestling was one of the sports cut to get into Title IX compliance.

IUP sponsors almost every Pee Sack sport for women except golf. That’s it. One the mens side..IUP does not offer three sports the Pee Sack does..soccer, wrestling and tennis.

West Chester has a women's rugby team. It's striking when a college doesn't even offer basic high school sports like baseball and wrestling.

[iupgroundhog]

Wrestling was one of the sports cut to get into Title IX compliance.

IUP sponsors almost every Pee Sack sport for women except golf. That’s it. One the mens side..IUP does not offer three sports the Pee Sack does..soccer, wrestling and tennis.

Women's Wrestling becomes a fully sanctioned NCAA sport in 2025-26. The first NCAA tournament is Spring 2026.

[IUPNation]

They could add Women's Wrestling. They could even add Men's Wrestling but they won't. When the conversation in the college wrestling world comes up about which schools could add wrestling (add it back) IUP's name is often mentioned. it is situated in a wrestling-rich area and it would seem to have the resources. Indiana itself was never a "wrestling town." Slippery Rock is mentioned more. SRU was once a strong national program and has had D1 national champions. As I understand it, SRU still maintains a wrestling club team.

Ironically, the KCAC has become a popular venue to hold national HS and youth tournaments. These tournaments bring in several hundred young wrestlers, their family and friends, and coaches. When they started out, KCAC was criticized because they didn't really know how to manage those tourneys well but they have learned, apparently, and it is a top venue for that kind of event.

Wrestling was one of the sports cut to get into Title IX compliance.

IUP sponsors almost every Pee Sack sport for women except golf. That’s it. One the mens side..IUP does not offer three sports the Pee Sack does..soccer, wrestling and tennis.

[iupgroundhog]

I don’t know how many more sports IUP could add for the ladies.

They could add Women's Wrestling. They could even add Men's Wrestling but they won't. When the conversation in the college wrestling world comes up about which schools could add wrestling (add it back) IUP's name is often mentioned. it is situated in a wrestling-rich area and it would seem to have the resources. Indiana itself was never a "wrestling town." Slippery Rock is mentioned more. SRU was once a strong national program and has had D1 national champions. As I understand it, SRU still maintains a wrestling club team.

Ironically, the KCAC has become a popular venue to hold national HS and youth tournaments. These tournaments bring in several hundred young wrestlers, their family and friends, and coaches. When they started out, KCAC was criticized because they didn't really know how to manage those tourneys well but they have learned, apparently, and it is a top venue for that kind of event.

[IUPNation]

Golf. They once had gymnastics. https://www.iup.edu/news-events/news...a-miracle.html

Which won 2 National Titles when I was there…

[Bart]

I don’t know how many more sports IUP could add for the ladies.

Golf. They once had gymnastics. https://www.iup.edu/news-events/news...a-miracle.html

[IUPNation]

So the only answer is to fund more women's sports, but that needs to be done at the youth level. At the time men's sports were dropped in favor of women's sports, there probably weren't enough women interested in team sports to be athletic enough for college sports teams, but the teams were created and filled. Men are still recruited at a higher rate, although maybe someday things will change.

I don’t know how many more sports IUP could add for the ladies.

[Bart]

No.

So the only answer is to fund more women's sports, but that needs to be done at the youth level. At the time men's sports were dropped in favor of women's sports, there probably weren't enough women interested in team sports to be athletic enough for college sports teams, but the teams were created and filled. Men are still recruited at a higher rate, although maybe someday things will change.

[IUPNation]

Something seems off. Should schools be allowed to offer more sports to men or not?

No.

[IUPNation]

One issue is that the Title IX law is a lot broader than providing athletic opportunities. It's not just about college sports, although sports is the most visible application of the law.

Understood but the sports part wound up going as much negative as it did righting the wrong.

I am all for having ladies sports. I just think the solution was to add and not subtract.

[IUPNation]

I think this is a pretty strong observation. I'd argue that sports that have both mens and womens teams should have comparable budgets, resources, staffing, etc.

Absolutely.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I got my ticket online for the ROCK/Iup game, but still have to go to will call to pick it up??? What is the point? At the ROCK when you buy online, you get a digital ticket with a QR code that is scanned at the gate, that is how get their attendance numbers; even the students CORE card gets scanned

Just be thankful they eliminated the extra $7 per ticket service charge this year.

But, yes, your point is very valid. They do that (scan) for basketball.

[SRU 88]

I got my ticket online for the ROCK/Iup game, but still have to go to will call to pick it up??? What is the point? At the ROCK when you buy online, you get a digital ticket with a QR code that is scanned at the gate, that is how get their attendance numbers; even the students CORE card gets scanned

[iupgroundhog]

I think if the team count is the same and reciprocal men's/women's teams get the same funding, that should suffice.

Yeah, but you aren't one of the people asking for equal rights. The problem with that argument is that Title IX is a law and it doesn't protect the rights of "teams." It protects the rights of individuals. So, it is going to be applied in a way that addresses individual rights. The fact that one team has more participants is not considered.