THE IUP Football Thread

[TheBigCat2192]

It's his 2nd major strike at IUP. I think he had a Zach Wheeler-like amount of strikes previously. This reminds me of when there was a Cal player years ago charged with credit card fraud and posters tried to say it was a victimless crime. Not so, if you have ever been the victim of CC fraud. So, the non-violent idea doesn't mean much to me. Not to mention, as I recall, his previous issue at IUP was violent, right?

Let me ask you, would you flee from the scene of a traffic stop? Just speculating but somebody does that because they are intoxicated by alcohol or something else, or possess actual illicit things and don't want it to be found by the state police. Duh. It's not because the person fears a driving under suspension charge. Most likely.

I actually don’t know what his first strike while at IUP was. I mentioned “second strike” because his license was suspended/revoked and someone else brought up that he’d been on the police blotter before. I’m trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt/presumption of innocence here. Given the list of charges and him taking off I did suspect he might have been under the influence of something (or perhaps had an illegal piece/drugs on him) but I’ll wait on that to be proven instead of assuming it.

I also said the HC had perfectly good grounds to boot the guy just on the encounter so it’s not like I’m saying IUP should bring him back or that BU should scoop him up. I just want to know more before I make a firm conclusion.

[iupgroundhog]

I’m not a lawyer but based on that court document it looks like everything except for taking off was only a summary offense (the “S” in category). Maybe he just mistakenly believed the suspended/revoked license was a more serious charge?

Unless something worse comes out during his hearing I’m mostly in the same boat as FightinScot on the severity given it looks non-violent. Doesn’t strike me as a hardened criminal kind of event. Taking off was stupid but at least he was smart in that he didn’t hop in the car and lead the cops on a chase or get into a scuffle with the trooper.

Having said all that I can absolutely understand the HC giving him the boot. It’s his second strike (at least publicly) and no one wants to be on the hook when one of your guys strikes out. Doing it so close to the season opener when you’re a 24.5 year old RS senior who’s supposed to be a leader just makes it harder for the coach to keep you on.

It's his 2nd major strike at IUP. I think he had a Zach Wheeler-like amount of strikes previously. This reminds me of when there was a Cal player years ago charged with credit card fraud and posters tried to say it was a victimless crime. Not so, if you have ever been the victim of CC fraud. So, the non-violent idea doesn't mean much to me. Not to mention, as I recall, his previous issue at IUP was violent, right?

Let me ask you, would you flee from the scene of a traffic stop? Just speculating but somebody does that because they are intoxicated by alcohol or something else, or possess actual illicit things and don't want it to be found by the state police. Duh. It's not because the person fears a driving under suspension charge. Most likely.

[TheBigCat2192]

We'll never know 'why' he took off on foot. But, it's probably safe to assume most people don't go running for just having a suspended license. You're getting in some trouble, yes, but not going behind bars.

As a long-time fan and financial supporter, it's just infuriating. Young people screw up. But, you only get so many strikes. Tort had no choice. I'd assume he discussed the matter with those up the chain and the decision was made by Monday morning to cut ties.

I’m not a lawyer but based on that court document it looks like everything except for taking off was only a summary offense (the “S” in category). Maybe he just mistakenly believed the suspended/revoked license was a more serious charge?

Unless something worse comes out during his hearing I’m mostly in the same boat as FightinScot on the severity given it looks non-violent. Doesn’t strike me as a hardened criminal kind of event. Taking off was stupid but at least he was smart in that he didn’t hop in the car and lead the cops on a chase or get into a scuffle with the trooper.

Having said all that I can absolutely understand the HC giving him the boot. It’s his second strike (at least publicly) and no one wants to be on the hook when one of your guys strikes out. Doing it so close to the season opener when you’re a 24.5 year old RS senior who’s supposed to be a leader just makes it harder for the coach to keep you on.

[iupgroundhog]

Write-up about the new band director.

https://www.indianagazette.com/news/...791a5c32d.html

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Based on the link that FightinScot posted a few pages back he allegedly took off on foot during a traffic stop with the PSP.

We'll never know 'why' he took off on foot. But, it's probably safe to assume most people don't go running for just having a suspended license. You're getting in some trouble, yes, but not going behind bars.

As a long-time fan and financial supporter, it's just infuriating. Young people screw up. But, you only get so many strikes. Tort had no choice. I'd assume he discussed the matter with those up the chain and the decision was made by Monday morning to cut ties.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Knock on wood but Jack didn't have another doomsday report on WCCS this morning. They must have finally had a practice with no new injuries, arrests, etc.


Tort did say yesterday the Saturday scrimmage will now essentially be a JV game. Due to the injury pandemic going through camp he's going to hold nearly all starters out.

[TheBigCat2192]

What did Stewart do to get kicked off the team?

Based on the link that FightinScot posted a few pages back he allegedly took off on foot during a traffic stop with the PSP.

[Tdobson]

What did Stewart do to get kicked off the team?

[iupgroundhog]

Wow! I remember saying they should've booted Stewart off the team from his previous run in with the police and I got hammered for it by a few. Interestingly enough, I was right. He is a thug and should've been booted!

Seems like yesterday. I defended him at that time. Not defended but more like saying he deserved a second chance. It is clear now that he is a thug.

[IUPalum]

Wow! I remember saying they should've booted Stewart off the team from his previous run in with the police and I got hammered for it by a few. Interestingly enough, I was right. He is a thug and should've been booted!

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Impressed they've kept this out of the Gazette. The charges sound like the report would be an entertaining read.

It was filed Friday and neither the IG or WCCS has reported it yet (in the police logs). Coincidence, I'm sure.

Some dude j-walks in Homer City and it's in the next days police log.

[EyeoftheHawk]

He's an idiot who needs to grow up. Maybe leaving the Las Vegas of Indiana County is good for him. I'm a pretty forgiving person, so I'd be okay with it if it came with a list of conditions. He didn't do anything violent or something worse that's unforgiveable.

The Las Vegas of Indiana County. You win the thread with that one, LOL. Good stuff and I will probably steal that.

[iupgroundhog]

He's an idiot who needs to grow up. Maybe leaving the Las Vegas of Indiana County is good for him. I'm a pretty forgiving person, so I'd be okay with it if it came with a list of conditions. He didn't do anything violent or something worse that's unforgiveable.

I'm a pretty forgiving person, too. While I don't know this individual personally and it may be unfair for me to judge him, I don't see him learning any lessons. He is like 23 or 24 years old. It sounds to me like it would have been much worse had he not fled. Did they catch him and apprehend him? I don't think so because the report says they didn't read him his rights or anything. Leaving the Las Vegas of Indiana County? C'mon, I think he will be the same person no matter where he goes. He's letting a lot of people down right now.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

For those who missed it (or care) ... IUP named its Interim Band Director.

The previous one left to take the same job at his alma mater.

The band was making some headway. Hopefully we aren't heading back to Ghostbusters.

[Fightingscot82]

Frankly, I don't think there is any integrity if any team picked him up right now. I think it's more than baggage and a headache. He will be facing these charges.

He's an idiot who needs to grow up. Maybe leaving the Las Vegas of Indiana County is good for him. I'm a pretty forgiving person, so I'd be okay with it if it came with a list of conditions. He didn't do anything violent or something worse that's unforgiveable.