THE IUP Football Thread

[IUPNation]

What is this the SEC or something?

I think his point is that hardly anyone repeats since the State Game was rebooted. The PeeSack isn’t like the MIAA or GLIAC where the same team or few teams win every year for decades.

[Ram040506]

Especially this conference.

What is this the SEC or something?

[Fightingscot82]

If the Hawks can figure out a way to go 8-3 on a “down year” with a backup QB that is not a bad year. Is it what we wanted? Of course not but you can’t win the conference every year. That’s just a fact.

Especially this conference.

[iupgroundhog]

latest statement from psp was that this was essentially a gun fight inside the Chevy chase center. It’s classified as a mass shooting but it’s not at all like the school shootings that get all the publicity

Folks seem to be conflating a lot of issues. Mass shootings happen everywhere, Walmarts, concerts, churches, synagogues, etc. It can happen everywhere. To me, some of these rationalizations seem to be an attempt to deflect from the guns used in them.

[ironmaniup]

There certainly was violence years ago, but there certainly were not the number of school shootings we have now, nor the number of multi-victim shootings. There are an increasing number of guns in the hands of more and more people inclined to use them.

latest statement from psp was that this was essentially a gun fight inside the Chevy chase center. It’s classified as a mass shooting but it’s not at all like the school shootings that get all the publicity

[Ship69]

The point is these "mass" shootings are not so radically unusual but are wildly publicized in the information age. In times past they were ignored because of who the victims were. No one cared how many gangsters or poor died as long as the middle class weren't involved. In a similar way heroin related deaths didn't matter because of who was usiing and dying. But when fentanyl reached the suburbs it's a national catastrophe.. As the stats indicate per capita gun deaths have ranged from 5.5-7.5 for many decades. Oddly suicides by gun are a much bigger issue and are rarely mentioned since there isn't a spectacular news angle to play up.

There certainly was violence years ago, but there certainly were not the number of school shootings we have now, nor the number of multi-victim shootings. There are an increasing number of guns in the hands of more and more people inclined to use them.

[IUP Crimson Hawk]

If the Hawks can figure out a way to go 8-3 on a “down year” with a backup QB that is not a bad year. Is it what we wanted? Of course not but you can’t win the conference every year. That’s just a fact.

[IUP Crimson Hawk]

Hmmm, it wasn’t that long ago people were talking about how much better Tort was than Curt Cignetti. That 2014 season was a tough one too. But anyway, this season is a clusterf&$k, and the whole staff practically has been here forever. The last major hire was another old guy that’s been an assistant in the PSAC forever. Maybe there’s just not that fire in the belly anymore.

Tort has a better winning percentage than Cignetti did at IUP. He also won the Region. Cignetti never did. Tort has won the PSAC twice. Cignetti won it once. I am not saying Cignetti is a bad coach he is a great coach, but no matter how you look at it those are facts. Tort has a better overall “track record” (Championships) (Record) etc. than Cignetti did in his time at IUP.

[IUP Crimson Hawk]

They aren't going to fire him. Unfortunately.

This is rock bottom ... and he drove them straight here.

Program stinks

Maybe the Tort Lovers can talk about just losing by 10 points.

Fire a guy that Won the PSAC and made it to the elite 8 last year. Lost at words what to say to you buddy.

[IUPNation]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...08672151097637

[IUPNation]

News conference just stated the party had about 150 people and everybody paid a fee to enter via an app. Police were actually there at about 12 a.m. for an initial noise complaint. After being told the music would be turned down, police left but had a mounted unit head toward there.

All the shots were fired inside the building. PSP said 'dozens' of shots were fired.

Suspect(s) still at large. They do not believe there is a current threat to the community. Names of the victims have not been released.

It’s not that big inside. It has a foyer area with a stairway downstairs to the restrooms otherwise it’s just a room. It’s a wonder more were not hit.

[iupgroundhog]

The point is these "mass" shootings are not so radically unusual but are wildly publicized in the information age. In times past they were ignored because of who the victims were. No one cared how many gangsters or poor died as long as the middle class weren't involved. In a similar way heroin related deaths didn't matter because of who was usiing and dying. But when fentanyl reached the suburbs it's a national catastrophe.. As the stats indicate per capita gun deaths have ranged from 5.5-7.5 for many decades. Oddly suicides by gun are a much bigger issue and are rarely mentioned since there isn't a spectacular news angle to play up.

The frequency has increased exponentially.

[CALUPA69]

I referenced mass shootings which is defined as at least 4 people shot.

The point is these "mass" shootings are not so radically unusual but are wildly publicized in the information age. In times past they were ignored because of who the victims were. No one cared how many gangsters or poor died as long as the middle class weren't involved. In a similar way heroin related deaths didn't matter because of who was usiing and dying. But when fentanyl reached the suburbs it's a national catastrophe.. As the stats indicate per capita gun deaths have ranged from 5.5-7.5 for many decades. Oddly suicides by gun are a much bigger issue and are rarely mentioned since there isn't a spectacular news angle to play up.

[EyeoftheHawk]

That place is 2 or 3 miles from campus.

But, as two victims are IUP students, it will be linked.

Right. It’s nowhere near campus. However, they did tout it as an “Official” IUP Homecoming After Party, although that’s what the organizers called it. It was not affiliated with IUP other than it being tied to homecoming. Here’s the link to the event: https://happeningnext.com/event/offi...eid4so5efm8tg1

It was $33 to enter. It also says “Security will be present for the safety of our audience. No BS tolerated.” Well, so much for that.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

News conference just stated the party had about 150 people and everybody paid a fee to enter via an app. Police were actually there at about 12 a.m. for an initial noise complaint. After being told the music would be turned down, police left but had a mounted unit head toward there.

All the shots were fired inside the building. PSP said 'dozens' of shots were fired.

Suspect(s) still at large. They do not believe there is a current threat to the community. Names of the victims have not been released.