THE IUP Football Thread

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Plus a fixed floor you can sand down, repaint, refinish, replace the lacquer, etc. You can't do that with an 80 piece jigsaw puzzle.

Lol true. I know some of the staff at the KCAC. They really 'love' taking it apart and putting it back together. They say it's a real good time.

[Fightingscot82]

It is -- and, they take it apart constantly. Like any glorified tongue and groove flooring, the more you take it apart and put it back together the quicker it deteriorates.

Plus a fixed floor you can sand down, repaint, refinish, replace the lacquer, etc. You can't do that with an 80 piece jigsaw puzzle.

[IUPalum]

I don't think the convertible ones do which is what I assume they have. Basically a set of basketball floor legos going over top of the concrete.

Could be... not sure.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I don't think the convertible ones do which is what I assume they have. Basically a set of basketball floor legos going over top of the concrete.

It is -- and, they take it apart constantly. Like any glorified tongue and groove flooring, the more you take it apart and put it back together the quicker it deteriorates.

[Fightingscot82]

That's crazy, those floors can last forever if you take care of them properly.

I don't think the convertible ones do which is what I assume they have. Basically a set of basketball floor legos going over top of the concrete.

[IUPalum]

Apparently. I guess it is 15 years old already. I don't know if that is 'old' in the basketball floor world or not. I wouldn't think so. I think it has a great design and look. It's traditional -- and not one of these whacky, modern designs that give you a headache looking at it.

That's crazy, those floors can last forever if you take care of them properly.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

They need a new floor???

Apparently. I guess it is 15 years old already. I don't know if that is 'old' in the basketball floor world or not. I wouldn't think so. I think it has a great design and look. It's traditional -- and not one of these whacky, modern designs that give you a headache looking at it.

[IUPalum]

Soccer plays up on the hill (by the baseball field).

I believe the KCAC is getting a new floor for this upcoming basketball season.

They need a new floor???

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Article about the new IUP campus master plan below from the IG (probably blocked by paywall/ I just go incognito to view). Continues to include "improvements to Miller Stadium." I hope they are good ones. It also mentions a new turf for Soccer. Doesn't Soccer play its games at Miller?

https://www.indianagazette.com/news/...3b8fbcc5c.html

Soccer plays up on the hill (by the baseball field).

I believe the KCAC is getting a new floor for this upcoming basketball season.

[iupgroundhog]

Article about the new IUP campus master plan below from the IG (probably blocked by paywall/ I just go incognito to view). Continues to include "improvements to Miller Stadium." I hope they are good ones. It also mentions a new turf for Soccer. Doesn't Soccer play its games at Miller?

https://www.indianagazette.com/news/...3b8fbcc5c.html

[IUPNation]

IUP Foosball was its best under Welty.

We even won 6 Pee Sack titles my senior year but I bet we still wouldn’t have won the Dixon Trophy had it been given out then..

[ironmaniup]

I appreciate your rebuttal and perspective. You're probably right. One of my issues with how PASSHE chooses presidents is that no matter what the glaring need is they revert back to hiring an academic. One of the transformative IUP presidents cited here before wasn't an academic, Dr. Welty. He was a Student Affairs VP. That would have been extremely rare in the 1980s because its still rare now.

To be fair to Driscoll I think Passhe set him up to be their hatchet man - they limited his choices to one's that were very hard to carry off. I liked Welty, though things were so much better off then with state funding, and students and quality of administrators. Plus throwing down at Culpeppers with a professor who insulted his wife added a lot of color to the University.

[Fightingscot82]

I disagree with this take on Driscoll,

The thing is, He is responsible for a significant portion of the decline. Remember, the Penn west schools had already started down while IUP and SRU were holding steady or declining one or two percent. Driscoll decided on the per credit tuition disaster, went along with raising room and board rates in response to fewer people living in the dorms, The Punxy campus disaster, He failed to fix the admissions department that was failing until it was too late, He cut secretarial positions several years before he cut any admin positions, so that student services became much worse - the student facing secretaries should have been the last to be cut. He screwed up the HHS dean position/ firing which would have been really important in competing with SRU. Then when the SHTF he panicked and reorganized everything so no one understood the new system while at the same time retrenchment letters went out to a lot of faculty who did not get layed off. The layoffs were sometimes arbitrary, and in a few cases vindictive. Things have stablized recently, the science colleges big donations helped to look good - but that was mostly the science colleges' doing, The osteopathic school ? I hear the last few years med school acceptances have been down because of the cheaper curriculum, We'll see, but its not like Indiana was renowned for great medical care in the area. There is still a decent university infrastructure, and student preferences are quirky, so things may swing back in IUPs favor, but it won't be because of his leadership.

I appreciate your rebuttal and perspective. You're probably right. One of my issues with how PASSHE chooses presidents is that no matter what the glaring need is they revert back to hiring an academic. One of the transformative IUP presidents cited here before wasn't an academic, Dr. Welty. He was a Student Affairs VP. That would have been extremely rare in the 1980s because its still rare now.

[iupgroundhog]

The interesting piece of commercial property in Indiana is where Rustic Lodge was for 80 years. It closed last year. Not sure what will go in there. I'd love to see an Olive Garden or something similar.

IUP should acquire it and make it into a showcase restaurant for the School of Culinary Arts.

The Culinary School should have a presence on Philadelphia Street, as well.

[ironmaniup]

I agree with you that Driscoll has provided calm, stable leadership while IUP takes on water. He also benefits from the masses still thinking IUP is at its traditional enrollment and strength. They've been able to trumpet some nice success stories during the times of campus difficulty, which is much better than the Penn West campuses can say. Is he an exciting, dynamic guy whose electric personality drives innovation and success? Hell no. But Driscoll is deliberate, logical, and methodical and that is keeping IUP from the freefall at the Penn West campuses.

I disagree with this take on Driscoll,

The thing is, He is responsible for a significant portion of the decline. Remember, the Penn west schools had already started down while IUP and SRU were holding steady or declining one or two percent. Driscoll decided on the per credit tuition disaster, went along with raising room and board rates in response to fewer people living in the dorms, The Punxy campus disaster, He failed to fix the admissions department that was failing until it was too late, He cut secretarial positions several years before he cut any admin positions, so that student services became much worse - the student facing secretaries should have been the last to be cut. He screwed up the HHS dean position/ firing which would have been really important in competing with SRU. Then when the SHTF he panicked and reorganized everything so no one understood the new system while at the same time retrenchment letters went out to a lot of faculty who did not get layed off. The layoffs were sometimes arbitrary, and in a few cases vindictive. Things have stablized recently, the science colleges big donations helped to look good - but that was mostly the science colleges' doing, The osteopathic school ? I hear the last few years med school acceptances have been down because of the cheaper curriculum, We'll see, but its not like Indiana was renowned for great medical care in the area. There is still a decent university infrastructure, and student preferences are quirky, so things may swing back in IUPs favor, but it won't be because of his leadership.