THE IUP Football Thread

[IUPalum]

What about the mysterious flag pickup on IUP's last scoring drive on Hunter's scramble the running back literally threw the ROCK Blitzer down. It was 3rd down if that gets called is is 3rd and forever, probably turnover on downs and final is 27- 26. I would also question Tort's decision to go for 2 on both occasions.

The RB didn’t throw him to the ground. Your guy fell when he was hit. Just stop making **** up! He hit him hard and your guy couldn’t handle it.

[Bart]

Wrestling isn't as popular as it once was. Baseball and wrestling are falling victim to year round youth sports programs. I'm trying to get my smaller 8 year old to try wrestling, but the local organization is struggling because now 2nd graders can do basketball, hockey, and indoor flag football (his tackle football coaches are pushing him to do flag FB). The high school already shares its youth organization and high school team with a neighboring school district, and ours is 3A.

We've gotta get used to things of our past fading away as there are fewer kids but more choices. By 2030 there will be half as many high school students than 2010.

True that. Kutztown offers women's bowling and acrobatics and tumbling, but they also have men's baseball and wrestling. Anyway you make a good point. Looking back,since my past is fading away, when I attended Bloom men's basketball games, they had a Jayvee game before the varsity game. Now we have women's basketball games before or after the men's games. It's a better set up.

[SRU 88]

Thoughts:



5) wtf were the refs doing on Slippery Rock’s final drive. The targeting turned roughing penalty? Wtf, you can tackle a guy hard anymore? There was zero penalty on that play but they decided to call roughing so they didn’t look bad for picking up a flag. Absolutely ridiculous!

What about the mysterious flag pickup on IUP's last scoring drive on Hunter's scramble the running back literally threw the ROCK Blitzer down. It was 3rd down if that gets called is is 3rd and forever, probably turnover on downs and final is 27- 26. I would also question Tort's decision to go for 2 on both occasions.

[Fightingscot82]

Thoughts:

1) How the heck can Tort not have this team ready and pumped up for a rivalry game on Homecoming?

2) Game plan on both sides of the ball was god awful for the first quarter or so. WTF did Tort and his boys see on film?

3) Once getting away from the run, why so many damn fade routes to a 5’ 9” Deabner? God awful!

4) Karst obviously doesn’t see the field well. He had guys open and threw to covered ones. Thank god for some interference penalties to offset that deficiency.

5) wtf were the refs doing on Slippery Rock’s final drive. The targeting turned roughing penalty? Wtf, you can tackle a guy hard anymore? There was zero penalty on that play but they decided to call roughing so they didn’t look bad for picking up a flag. Absolutely ridiculous!

6) What were the DBs doing on the game winning TD? Not a chance that ball should’ve been caught!

The reversed targeting call turned into unnecessary roughness happened in the Edinboro Bloomsburg game. All targeting gets reviewed in the second half and it was explained to me they can be amended. I think that's BS. Both seemed to be incidental violent contact. That happens. But targeting needs intent. I'd argue so does unnecessary roughness. Throw the flag then explain upon review there was not likely intent to injure or contact was incidental.

[Fightingscot82]

West Chester has a women's rugby team. It's striking when a college doesn't even offer basic high school sports like baseball and wrestling.

Wrestling isn't as popular as it once was. Baseball and wrestling are falling victim to year round youth sports programs. I'm trying to get my smaller 8 year old to try wrestling, but the local organization is struggling because now 2nd graders can do basketball, hockey, and indoor flag football (his tackle football coaches are pushing him to do flag FB). The high school already shares its youth organization and high school team with a neighboring school district, and ours is 3A.

We've gotta get used to things of our past fading away as there are fewer kids but more choices. By 2030 there will be half as many high school students than 2010.

[IUPalum]

Thoughts:

1) How the heck can Tort not have this team ready and pumped up for a rivalry game on Homecoming?

2) Game plan on both sides of the ball was god awful for the first quarter or so. WTF did Tort and his boys see on film?

3) Once getting away from the run, why so many damn fade routes to a 5’ 9” Deabner? God awful!

4) Karst obviously doesn’t see the field well. He had guys open and threw to covered ones. Thank god for some interference penalties to offset that deficiency.

5) wtf were the refs doing on Slippery Rock’s final drive. The targeting turned roughing penalty? Wtf, you can tackle a guy hard anymore? There was zero penalty on that play but they decided to call roughing so they didn’t look bad for picking up a flag. Absolutely ridiculous!

6) What were the DBs doing on the game winning TD? Not a chance that ball should’ve been caught!

[Bart]

Wrestling was one of the sports cut to get into Title IX compliance.

IUP sponsors almost every Pee Sack sport for women except golf. That’s it. One the mens side..IUP does not offer three sports the Pee Sack does..soccer, wrestling and tennis.

West Chester has a women's rugby team. It's striking when a college doesn't even offer basic high school sports like baseball and wrestling.

[iupgroundhog]

Wrestling was one of the sports cut to get into Title IX compliance.

IUP sponsors almost every Pee Sack sport for women except golf. That’s it. One the mens side..IUP does not offer three sports the Pee Sack does..soccer, wrestling and tennis.

Women's Wrestling becomes a fully sanctioned NCAA sport in 2025-26. The first NCAA tournament is Spring 2026.

[IUPNation]

They could add Women's Wrestling. They could even add Men's Wrestling but they won't. When the conversation in the college wrestling world comes up about which schools could add wrestling (add it back) IUP's name is often mentioned. it is situated in a wrestling-rich area and it would seem to have the resources. Indiana itself was never a "wrestling town." Slippery Rock is mentioned more. SRU was once a strong national program and has had D1 national champions. As I understand it, SRU still maintains a wrestling club team.

Ironically, the KCAC has become a popular venue to hold national HS and youth tournaments. These tournaments bring in several hundred young wrestlers, their family and friends, and coaches. When they started out, KCAC was criticized because they didn't really know how to manage those tourneys well but they have learned, apparently, and it is a top venue for that kind of event.

Wrestling was one of the sports cut to get into Title IX compliance.

IUP sponsors almost every Pee Sack sport for women except golf. That’s it. One the mens side..IUP does not offer three sports the Pee Sack does..soccer, wrestling and tennis.

[iupgroundhog]

I don’t know how many more sports IUP could add for the ladies.

They could add Women's Wrestling. They could even add Men's Wrestling but they won't. When the conversation in the college wrestling world comes up about which schools could add wrestling (add it back) IUP's name is often mentioned. it is situated in a wrestling-rich area and it would seem to have the resources. Indiana itself was never a "wrestling town." Slippery Rock is mentioned more. SRU was once a strong national program and has had D1 national champions. As I understand it, SRU still maintains a wrestling club team.

Ironically, the KCAC has become a popular venue to hold national HS and youth tournaments. These tournaments bring in several hundred young wrestlers, their family and friends, and coaches. When they started out, KCAC was criticized because they didn't really know how to manage those tourneys well but they have learned, apparently, and it is a top venue for that kind of event.

[IUPNation]

Golf. They once had gymnastics. https://www.iup.edu/news-events/news...a-miracle.html

Which won 2 National Titles when I was there…

[Bart]

I don’t know how many more sports IUP could add for the ladies.

Golf. They once had gymnastics. https://www.iup.edu/news-events/news...a-miracle.html

[IUPNation]

So the only answer is to fund more women's sports, but that needs to be done at the youth level. At the time men's sports were dropped in favor of women's sports, there probably weren't enough women interested in team sports to be athletic enough for college sports teams, but the teams were created and filled. Men are still recruited at a higher rate, although maybe someday things will change.

I don’t know how many more sports IUP could add for the ladies.

[Bart]

No.

So the only answer is to fund more women's sports, but that needs to be done at the youth level. At the time men's sports were dropped in favor of women's sports, there probably weren't enough women interested in team sports to be athletic enough for college sports teams, but the teams were created and filled. Men are still recruited at a higher rate, although maybe someday things will change.

[IUPNation]

Something seems off. Should schools be allowed to offer more sports to men or not?

No.