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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    I get it completely. I'm just saying - the way it's written - that Football really puts the crunch on a school having more male sports.

    I'd love to see IUP have men's soccer, wrestling, etc.

    End of the day they are enrollment boosters.
    Every piece of legislation should be reviewed and Title IX should be changed to say that no school can sponsor more men’s sports than ladies sports. It should not matter the student makeup because most athletes are recruited. Young women don’t wake up one day on campus and say I’m trying out for the basketball team.

    Taking opportunities away from men in sports to offer more sports for women was the wrong way to achieve equality. That’s now how you uplift those disenfranchised.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    Foosball should have been exempted from the TitkeIx counts since there are no women’s sports that have rosters that large. Not every male wants to play foosball either.
    I get it completely. I'm just saying - the way it's written - that Football really puts the crunch on a school having more male sports.

    I'd love to see IUP have men's soccer, wrestling, etc.

    End of the day they are enrollment boosters.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    It's more 'having' a football team, correct, that really jacks things up (in regard to having male non-revenue sports)?

    For instance, you can have about 15 women's tennis teams for (1) football team (keeping headcounts equal, and all).
    Foosball should have been exempted from the TitkeIx counts since there are no women’s sports that have rosters that large. Not every male wants to play foosball either.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by WarriorVoice View Post

    I'll grab on to this 3rd rail of sports. Why is providing equal athletic opportunities for women considered to be discrimination? Seems to me that equal opportunities is the goal here...
    Not providing sports for women prior to Title IX was discrimination. Women’s sports are now well established. But having to cut men’s sports was a bad way to go about it. It’s like saying straight people had to lose rights do gays can have rights they didn’t have before..it’s not how it should work.

    IUP should be able to bring back mens soccer. They would still have less sports for men than women.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    Title IX accomplishes its goal of getting women’s sports established. Cutting men’s sports because of enrollment percentages is just reverse discrimination to me. I loathe all forms of discrimination.
    It's more 'having' a football team, correct, that really jacks things up (in regard to having male non-revenue sports)?

    For instance, you can have about 15 women's tennis teams for (1) football team (keeping headcounts equal, and all).

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  • WarriorVoice
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    Title IX accomplishes its goal of getting women’s sports established. Cutting men’s sports because of enrollment percentages is just reverse discrimination to me. I loathe all forms of discrimination.
    I'll grab on to this 3rd rail of sports. Why is providing equal athletic opportunities for women considered to be discrimination? Seems to me that equal opportunities is the goal here...

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    I don't know if we'll ever see the reestablishment of men's teams. Male enrollment at all schools was slowly declining before Covid, since then its dropped quite a bit. Most PASSHE schools are now 60% women.
    Title IX accomplishes its goal of getting women’s sports established. Cutting men’s sports because of enrollment percentages is just reverse discrimination to me. I loathe all forms of discrimination.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    I hate seeing foosball fields with lines for other sports. It's good soccer has it's own field. maybe one day they bring back mens soccer.
    I don't know if we'll ever see the reestablishment of men's teams. Male enrollment at all schools was slowly declining before Covid, since then its dropped quite a bit. Most PASSHE schools are now 60% women.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Some interesting items on the Week 5 depth chart. I think Tort is certainly playing a couple head games.

    Of note:

    * Kaleb Monaco is now listed as RB1. JD Younger is RB2 and Adam Houser is RB3.
    - I thought it was clear they were ramping up Monaco to take over the past two weeks.

    * T'Mahdae Penn is listed for the first time this year (WR2)
    - He will be a (literally) huge addition to the WR corp. To put it mildly, they are very excited for his debut.

    * Marcus Day is now TE1, with Cole Laney being listed as TE2.
    - Formality, perhaps, as they probably play equal snaps. But, Day seems to have a knack for getting open and has really good hands.

    * Hilton Ridley is not listed.
    - The odds of him starting are 99.9%. He got an extra week off against Clarion as a precaution. No chance he's missing this game.

    * Randy Okungu is not listed. I can guarantee he is playing this week.

    * Younger also now appears as a backup at the Star position.

    * It's interesting how they are playing Nathan Rosario-Santos. He's officially listed as DE2 this week but they are playing him at multiple positions. He is a big hitter and is seemingly everywhere. Lot of speed and a sure-tackler. He's a very hard-nosed player (and has been laying people out on special teams all season). Rosario-Santos was an All-MEC LB last year at Notre Dame. Ingram has played so well it's hard to take him off the field. Paired with Cox and Rosario-Santos they are keeping a lot of speed on the field.



    Obviously these 'depth charts' aren't worth the paper they are printed on as coaches love to play some games. But, it's interesting to read.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    They have their own field. It's up on the hill (by the baseball and softball fields).

    There's only so much available time (Miller Stadium) during the fall sports season.

    It gives them an actual soccer field (not a converted football field with lines painted everywhere, etc.).
    I hate seeing foosball fields with lines for other sports. It's good soccer has it's own field. maybe one day they bring back mens soccer.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by IUPalum View Post

    The only surprise with soccer is that they beat Slippery Rock but they did it at home on the slow grass field. Huge advantage for IUP at home b/c not many others play on grass. Beating Clarion/SH is to be expected and the tie with UPJ is actually embarrassing b/c that program is terrible.
    Soccer pulled out a tight one tonight, winning at Cal, 1-0.

    That's 5-0-1.

    Your comment above reminded me about when Dr. Evil allegedly grew the grass up before an IUP game to try and slow IUP down.


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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Taking a look back at the IUP/SRU series under the current head coaches (Lutz took over as HC in 2016 while Tort started in 2017):
    Year Winner Score Venue Notes
    2016 IUP 48-19 Indiana Curt Cignetti's last game in the series
    2017 IUP 34-17 SR Rock went up 10-0 but IUP took over
    2018 SRU 30-27 Indiana IUP led late but couldn't hold on
    2019 SRU 45-42 SR Played in a monsoon
    2020 NO GAME / COVID N/A N/A
    2021 IUP 48-21 SR The Irv Charles Show
    2022 IUP 20-12 Indiana Played in a monsoon
    2023 SRU 42-21 SR 28-0 in blink of an eye
    2024 Indiana
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    Lutz is 3-4 against IUP. Tort is 3-3 against SRU.

    Not surprising, (2) of Tort's wins came on the road.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Tdobson View Post
    Does IUP soccer play on grass, and if so why don’t they use the turf?
    They have their own field. It's up on the hill (by the baseball and softball fields).

    There's only so much available time (Miller Stadium) during the fall sports season.

    It gives them an actual soccer field (not a converted football field with lines painted everywhere, etc.).

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  • Tdobson
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    Does IUP soccer play on grass, and if so why don’t they use the turf?

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  • IUPalum
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Volleyball has hit a wall. After a 10-2 start, IUP has dropped its past four matches.

    Expectations were pretty high for this team.

    Soccer has been a bit of a surprise, currently sitting with a 4-0-1 record.
    The only surprise with soccer is that they beat Slippery Rock but they did it at home on the slow grass field. Huge advantage for IUP at home b/c not many others play on grass. Beating Clarion/SH is to be expected and the tie with UPJ is actually embarrassing b/c that program is terrible.

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