THE IUP Football Thread

[iupgroundhog]

You mean by backing up my position with stats and information? No wonder you can't get out of own way and compete. It's all excuses and blame, not one shred of evidence. If your pond is too full go fishing elsewhere. Go to Kentucky go to parts of TN to recruit. It's not that hard, not that much more expensive and social media makes it much easier

FYI per the college football network on Twitter/X across all levels MA has 27 football playing schools, Kansas has 25. PA has 57 according to Google the college fb network hasn't done their PA breakdown yet. per Google NY has 36.

So and I understand that this is only KS and PA I'm comparing, but if you take the total population of those 2 states KS 2.97m and PA 12.97m and divide them by the TOTAL number of football playing colleges across all divisions so all opportunities KS = 117,600 and PA almost double at 227,543.

Thanks for the info. I guess the football players are just better in Kansas.

[Wallst]

Do you not understand that you have lost this argument?

You mean by backing up my position with stats and information? No wonder you can't get out of own way and compete. It's all excuses and blame, not one shred of evidence. If your pond is too full go fishing elsewhere. Go to Kentucky go to parts of TN to recruit. It's not that hard, not that much more expensive and social media makes it much easier

FYI per the college football network on Twitter/X across all levels MA has 27 football playing schools, Kansas has 25. PA has 57 according to Google the college fb network hasn't done their PA breakdown yet. per Google NY has 36.

So and I understand that this is only KS and PA I'm comparing, but if you take the total population of those 2 states KS 2.97m and PA 12.97m and divide them by the TOTAL number of football playing colleges across all divisions so all opportunities KS = 117,600 and PA almost double at 227,543.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Do you not understand that you have lost this argument?

49 Days ... and we go back to arguing about football.

[iupgroundhog]

I used Wiki for Title IX info. As I said in my original post on this topic I used Google and Field Level as my sources. I understand your comprehension is weak. And since this is a D2 board that is the qualifier I used.

As I also said, if you want to talk about fully funded or number of scholly's being the issue for SR1 historically not being competitive at the national level I'm all for it and agree. I wish SR1 was strong, Hopefully, the portal allows some better athletes to trickle down to teams in the area and SR1 becomes a player nationally.

Do you not understand that you have lost this argument?

[Wallst]

Enjoy your arrogance. I'm enjoying your ignorance. Since when are the opportunities in D2 the only ones that count? Maybe you need some better sources than Wikipedia.

I used Wiki for Title IX info. As I said in my original post on this topic I used Google and Field Level as my sources. I understand your comprehension is weak. And since this is a D2 board that is the qualifier I used.

As I also said, if you want to talk about fully funded or number of scholly's being the issue for SR1 historically not being competitive at the national level I'm all for it and agree. I wish SR1 was strong, Hopefully, the portal allows some better athletes to trickle down to teams in the area and SR1 becomes a player nationally.

[WarriorVoice]

So, it's then absolutely about population. You can't or shouldn't have one without the other. I proved with information and math that per person there are less D2 opportunities in SR3 than there is in SR1 and its not even close.

Now go lick your wounds and enjoy your Sunday.

Enjoy your arrogance. I'm enjoying your ignorance. Since when are the opportunities in D2 the only ones that count? Maybe you need some better sources than Wikipedia.

[iupgroundhog]

The way the case was written I think involved a lot of legal mumbo jumbo but the issues were mainly between funding for their D1 Field Hockey and D1 Wrestling programs.

https://www.aauw.org/resources/legal...-v-lock-haven/

[iupgroundhog]

I think that the PSAC should sue lock haven for pretending to have a football team. Lol

In all seriousness, I’ll bet lock haven was sued by the football team.

The way the case was written I think involved a lot of legal mumbo jumbo but the issues were mainly between funding for their D1 Field Hockey and D1 Wrestling programs.

[Tdobson]

I think that the PSAC should sue lock haven for pretending to have a football team. Lol

In all seriousness, I’ll bet lock haven was sued by the football team.

[iupgroundhog]

Good PS question. I did some wiki research and it seems as there are 3 tests for Title IX. One is increased participation as a % of male vs female population. Probably why we added women's soccer. Would also bet we offer more female schollys in track and cross country. We are a track and field powerhouse.

A school can be in non-compliance for Title IX until they get sued. Major lawsuits have occurred at 3 PSAC schools that I recall; IUP, Slippery Rock, and Lock Haven. Just sayin'.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I know it's not IUP related but this is by far the most active PSAC thread. Chiefs sign Slippery Rock WR Kyle Sheets

For better or worse, this is one of the most active threads on the whole site (historically).

Nation started a new one a year or so ago. The previous IUP thread was crazy.

[Wallst]

I know it's not IUP related but this is by far the most active PSAC thread. Chiefs sign Slippery Rock WR Kyle Sheets

[Fightingscot82]

It's not like moving up to the bush leagues of D1 is going to bring Mercyhust any great publicity.

You know firsthand in Pittsburgh that Robert Morris and Duquesne barely get any coverage. St. Francis might as well be on Pluto.

There's people in Indiana who follow IUP adamantly and they have no idea St. Francis (a half hour away) is a D1 school. Most think it's D3.

Will the local media in Erie (which pays less and less attention to D2) all the sudden pump the coverage of Mercyhurst? I doubt it. We'll see.

End of the day the Lake Show isn't joining the BIG. They are leaving their biggest rival behind.

It's not like they are some Grand Valley State powerhouse football program. That was -- at best -- a below average D2 team (on a good year).

Say there are 2,000 fans of Gannon and Mercyhurst in Erie. I'd guess 1,400 of them are Gannon fans. Will any of them suddenly have an interest in the 'D1' team in town? I sure as hell don't think so.

I do think they can grow to at least be competitive in the other sports. But, football is going to be painful (even in that awful league).

A year ago if you had told me one of the Erie schools was jumping up ... I'd have never guessed it would have been Mercyhurst.

I did see that Mercyhurst (along with RMU) negotiated some TV time for hockey on whatever the Pittsburgh sports network is now called. Its my understanding that when there is an opportunity to show a Mercyhurst hockey game in the absence of a Pens game, they'll get some time. But now with a gazillion channels and another gazillion streaming opportunities, their viewership may still not top what football got on the PSAC stream.

[Fightingscot82]

Good PS question. I did some wiki research and it seems as there are 3 tests for Title IX. One is increased participation as a % of male vs female population. Probably why we added women's soccer. Would also bet we offer more female schollys in track and cross country. We are a track and field powerhouse.

Coming soon to FBS - when schools start allocating a portion of gross revenue directly to students, it must also comply with Title IX.

[Bart]

Good PS question. I did some wiki research and it seems as there are 3 tests for Title IX. One is increased participation as a % of male vs female population. Probably why we added women's soccer. Would also bet we offer more female schollys in track and cross country. We are a track and field powerhouse.

"Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject, so you know you are getting the best possible information." Michael Scott

Couldn't resist.