Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[Stanger86]

Is that not how you were talking about the Summit Schools? They can't compete with the Big Ten or SEC so they shouldn't even be D1?

Certainly was not me.

[Stanger86]

The league obviously saw value in bringing them in to bolster the head count in a D2 world where things can change quickly and all the sudden the league you thought you had has quick defections and then you have near nothing = see the GNAC, GSC, and the scheduling challenges of the GLIAC.

This is 100% why the NSIC voted to approve Jamestown.

It's a very real concern, especially at a time when there are so many unknowns at the Division I/FCS level. I do think there's a very real possibility that the Summit/MVFC will come calling in the next 5-10 years for schools like Minnesota State. And all it takes is one or two defections for a conference to fracture. When that happens, there needs to be backfill.

[Stanger86]

Jamestown should be thanking Upper Iowa, maybe even sending them flowers because if UIU didn't leave, Jamestown wouldn’t be in the NSIC.

Well obviously. That's how conference realignment works. When someone defects, the league looks for a replacement. Jamestown saw an opportunity and went for it.

[Stanger86]

I feel like Dakota State is just lying in wait to strike on the next NSIC opening. Looking at the facilities they're building and adding women's soccer ... they have the look of the next NSIC team.

I would agree with this. It reminds me a lot of what Jamestown had been building for a decade before making the move.

[CheapSkate]

Always from the top rope. Your posts have a hit rate of 100% 👏

uh thank-you!

[SW_Mustang]

Certainly was not me.

He got us confused, methinks.

[debergfan]

I would agree with this. It reminds me a lot of what Jamestown had been building for a decade before making the move.

Does the "build" include the cafeteria?

Jamestown has been slowly turning into SEC powerhouse the last decade.

I think I have some new motto's for Jamestown, let me know your thoughts?

“No one rides the pine for free.”
“Tuition is the twelfth man.”
"someone has to finish last"
“Enroll them all, and we’ll field a team.”
“More jerseys, more tuition.”
“Strength in numbers… literally.”
“If you can pay, you can play.”

[MrMustang]

I can't agree with this.

The North Star was falling apart and a league where teams had to play each other twice and all that fun of a tiny league. It was only a matter of time before that league had to fold. UJ was also a geographic outpost in the GPAC..so they were in a bad spot in terms of having a conference home that would work long term. When UJ got the ball rolling for D2, the Frontier East wasn't a thing..and that isn't a good thing for the NStar teams anyway with the wild travels they'll have out west.

Correct. It was at a point where you played every conference opponent in football twice - home and away. This was set in motion with Presentation closing. Viterbo and Bellevue didn't have football -- so while the conference was strong and competitive and sustainable in all other sports, it was not in football

[MrMustang]

I wish we could have taken DSU over UJ. The Trojans have a much higher ceiling and are in a better location geographically. Alas.

Actually really enjoyed my visit down there last year. That was fun.

How does Dakota State have a higher ceiling? They are comparable. Madison is 6000 people Jamestown is 15,000. I will say DSU has more students on campus, but that's it.

[vikingfaithful]

How does Dakota State have a higher ceiling? They are comparable. Madison is 6000 people Jamestown is 15,000. I will say DSU has more students on campus, but that's it.

Advantage Jamestown; Great location for schools in northern half of conference. nice facilities and school vision.

Advantage DSU; Robust school with 3700 students, nationally recognized cyber security program, computer technology degrees, nice facilities, city is surrounded by glacial lakes.

[Augieholic]

How does Dakota State have a higher ceiling?

It's closer to Sioux Falls, the center of the NSIC Universe.

[SW_Mustang]

How does Dakota State have a higher ceiling? They are comparable. Madison is 6000 people Jamestown is 15,000. I will say DSU has more students on campus, but that's it.

Academics, alumni base, campus investments... is UJ planning an indoor facility? That stuff matters.

Far better location too. Closer to Sioux Falls than Jamestown is to Fargo....

Just my opinion. I've been to DSU several times and I'm impressed with them. UJ? Not as impressed.

[Stanger86]

Academics, alumni base, campus investments... is UJ planning an indoor facility? That stuff matters.

You mean something like this?

https://www.uj.edu/news/excitement-b...n-estate-gift/

[debergfan]

You mean something like this?

https://www.uj.edu/news/excitement-b...n-estate-gift/

Jamestown will be in the Big 10

[SW_Mustang]

You mean something like this?

https://www.uj.edu/news/excitement-b...n-estate-gift/

I wasn't aware they had one. Good for them.