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  • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

    Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post
    Anyone heard how new guys are doing? It has got to be a shock to experience the intensity and pace.
    If they can adjust the transfers could thrive in this free flowing offense. From highlights They look like they could deadly in an open court up and down game.
    Had a brief Twitter exchange with McKinney after he transferred. Told him he needs to start doing an INSANE number of suicides EVERY day and start practicing an INSANE number of 3 point shots EVERY day starting THAT day and to never stop! He laughed and said he was headed to the gym to do just that and that he was stoked to show that he has what it takes to play on one of the best teams in the nation!

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    • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

      Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
      Had a brief Twitter exchange with McKinney after he transferred. Told him he needs to start doing an INSANE number of suicides EVERY day and start practicing an INSANE number of 3 point shots EVERY day starting THAT day and to never stop! He laughed and said he was headed to the gym to do just that and that he was stoked to show that he has what it takes to play on one of the best teams in the nation!
      LOL You are a wise man, Boat. Very good counsel to a young player. From his highlights, it looks like he likes defense too. Both he and Robinson have a great first step, but they don't slash out of control to the basket - they appear to change their angle to avoid charges. They also appear strong enough to score after contact to get the and-one.

      Without knowing them and just generally speaking, I would suspect that another difficult adjustment for a new player is to adjust to the freedom given to players to make good decisions in rapidly changing dynamic situations under duress, when there are no set plays. Kind of rare in today's environment of micro-managing coaches.

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      • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

        A lot of talent with a years experience could pay off in a big way. No seniors so everyone back the following year is kinda crazy.
        Last edited by Dirtybird; 06-25-2019, 04:47 PM.

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        • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

          Originally posted by Dirtybird View Post
          A lot of talent with a years experience could pay off in a big way. No seniors so everyone back the following year is kinda crazy.
          You raise an interesting point. With no seniors, how many scholarships are available next year?
          I can see it now - Player X with 5.0 GPA turns down MIT and Carnegie Mellon for academic scholarship and basketball at WL :-)

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          • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

            Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post
            You raise an interesting point. With no seniors, how many scholarships are available next year?
            I can see it now - Player X with 5.0 GPA turns down MIT and Carnegie Mellon for academic scholarship and basketball at WL :-)
            If he does that he should have his head examined. Lol.

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            • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

              Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
              If he does that he should have his head examined. Lol.
              LOL. I agree, unless he cannot afford MIT or CMU - what is it $50K a year?
              Or maybe he falls in love on his recruiting trip!

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              • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

                Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post
                LOL You are a wise man, Boat. Very good counsel to a young player. From his highlights, it looks like he likes defense too. Both he and Robinson have a great first step, but they don't slash out of control to the basket - they appear to change their angle to avoid charges. They also appear strong enough to score after contact to get the and-one.

                Without knowing them and just generally speaking, I would suspect that another difficult adjustment for a new player is to adjust to the freedom given to players to make good decisions in rapidly changing dynamic situations under duress, when there are no set plays. Kind of rare in today's environment of micro-managing coaches.
                The freedom WLU's style offers is probably difficult for players to adjust to. But to paraphrase the old saying - With great freedom comes great responsibility. It's not about taking a shot every time the ball hits your hands...it's not about jumping passing lanes every time the opponent passes...it IS about knowing when you should take the shot and when the better option is to pass to a more open teammate...it IS about knowing what your defensive teammates are doing so if you miss jumping a pass, you have backup. Seems like WLU players have to know what every one of their teammates are doing and be able to act correctly on that knowledge immediately.

                Being able to drain 3's is important...knowing when to pass to a more open teammate is even more important.

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                • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

                  Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
                  The freedom WLU's style offers is probably difficult for players to adjust to. But to paraphrase the old saying - With great freedom comes great responsibility. It's not about taking a shot every time the ball hits your hands...it's not about jumping passing lanes every time the opponent passes...it IS about knowing when you should take the shot and when the better option is to pass to a more open teammate...it IS about knowing what your defensive teammates are doing so if you miss jumping a pass, you have backup. Seems like WLU players have to know what every one of their teammates are doing and be able to act correctly on that knowledge immediately.

                  Being able to drain 3's is important...knowing when to pass to a more open teammate is even more important.
                  Well said. Wonder if that is a reason for the unconventional practice method of playing games to 100?

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                  • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

                    Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post
                    Well said. Wonder if that is a reason for the unconventional practice method of playing games to 100?
                    My guess would be yes...as would the mix and match position less nature of how they play (practice). Seems like the goal is to get 10 players that are completely comfortable with each other and that know exactly how the other 9 players are going to react to situations...for example if you know that French is most comfortable at the 3 line in the corner and that he drifts to that area almost all the time (because you've seen it a thousand times in "game" practice), you can be pretty comfortable knowing that if he's on the court with you, wipping a largely blind pass to that area is probably going to be rewarded with a 3.

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                    • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

                      Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
                      My guess would be yes...as would the mix and match position less nature of how they play (practice). Seems like the goal is to get 10 players that are completely comfortable with each other and that know exactly how the other 9 players are going to react to situations...for example if you know that French is most comfortable at the 3 line in the corner and that he drifts to that area almost all the time (because you've seen it a thousand times in "game" practice), you can be pretty comfortable knowing that if he's on the court with you, wipping a largely blind pass to that area is probably going to be rewarded with a 3.
                      French what a shooter. If only he had remained healthy... That might have put us over the top for he would have likely been in platoon 1 which would have given us more experience. Academic all American and elite 90 winner too

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                      • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

                        What's the report on WVW? They play that real slow-down game, correct?

                        Looks like they have most everybody back this year.

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                        • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

                          Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                          What's the report on WVW? They play that real slow-down game, correct?

                          Looks like they have most everybody back this year.
                          It is the all-international team of the MEC.
                          They lose Bronsted, one of their twin towers, but Petrovic is a good shooter.
                          They have Flohr, who primary skill seems to be trying to instigate something with WL players.
                          His biggest contribution to his team would be to get an opponent kicked out of the game along with himself.

                          Their problem is that they have no interest in getting offensive rebounds. Everyone just stands outside and watches their teammates. Really soft. They play zone and once they got tired, WL was getting layups off the pass to the foul line and then breaking to the basket.

                          They can be dangerous on a given night, depending on who they play. I was amazed that they beat both West Chester and Kutztown to start the year.

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                          • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

                            Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post
                            It is the all-international team of the MEC.
                            They lose Bronsted, one of their twin towers, but Petrovic is a good shooter.
                            They have Flohr, who primary skill seems to be trying to instigate something with WL players.
                            His biggest contribution to his team would be to get an opponent kicked out of the game along with himself.

                            Their problem is that they have no interest in getting offensive rebounds. Everyone just stands outside and watches their teammates. Really soft. They play zone and once they got tired, WL was getting layups off the pass to the foul line and then breaking to the basket.

                            They can be dangerous on a given night, depending on who they play. I was amazed that they beat both West Chester and Kutztown to start the year.
                            Good info.

                            They get Joe inside the KCAC on a Saturday night. Not easy.

                            We love when the other team has a goon. We'll have him frazzled by opening tip.

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                            • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

                              Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                              Good info.

                              They get Joe inside the KCAC on a Saturday night. Not easy.

                              We love when the other team has a goon. We'll have him frazzled by opening tip.
                              U should have no problem with them. Just guard their outside shooters. Even the bigs can shoot the three. Flohr is a guard who may not start but when he is beaten off the dribble he can trip or push opponent from behind. I am not a fan of that kind of play.

                              Their coach would win the mec drew Carey lookalike contest with his black glasses and haircut. LOL

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                              • Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

                                Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post
                                U should have no problem with them. Just guard their outside shooters. Even the bigs can shoot the three. Flohr is a guard who may not start but when he is beaten off the dribble he can trip or push opponent from behind. I am not a fan of that kind of play.

                                Their coach would win the mec drew Carey lookalike contest with his black glasses and haircut. LOL
                                They came up here 4-5 years ago. I remember it was like 57-42 or something. Real slow game.

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