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  • Originally posted by timbertopper View Post

    W.Va. State's baffling up-and-down play continued in Hawaii this weekend. After barely squeezing past a 3-7 Hawaii Pacific team, 76-74, on Friday, they blasted No. 11-ranked Embry-Riddle (Fla.), 87-69, late Sunday night - leading by as many as 27 points in the second half. No question they have the talent to be a problem for anybody on any given night. Just hope they don't decide to start stringing those nights together. West Liberty caught them on one of those nights and were fortunate to escape unscathed.
    WVSU has always been one of those teams that is either hot or they are not. One game you watch them and think my God they are really good...then the next game you wonder if they can execute an inbound pass. Kind of like Glenville in that respect.

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    • FYI - Some Game by Game Stats for WLU
      - Shooting %s are increasing
      - Wilmington game had an incredible 32 assists. Over 82% of made FGs were due to assists. Pts per possession was an incredible 1.42
      - Defense is continuing to generate large numbers of steals
      - Team has outstanding Assist to Turnover (TO) Ratio, which is amazing, given the pace of play.
      - Pts per FGA has climbed to 1.36
      Opponent Date Score FG FGA Pct 3 FG 3 FGA 3 FG PCT FT FTA FT PCT Assist TO Stl Assist to TO Ratio Assist per FG Points Per FGA Points Per Possession Off Reb Effic opp def reb
      WINSTON-SALEM STATE 11/12/21 104-82 37 80 46.3% 9 25 36.0% 21 27 77.8% 19 9 17 2.11 51% 1.30 1.25 41.9% 25
      EAST STROUDSBURG 11/13/21 108-93 38 75 50.7% 18 35 51.4% 14 21 66.7% 24 16 13 1.50 63% 1.44 1.23 34.3% 23
      at Pitt.-Johnstown 11/17/21 95-83 33 70 47.1% 8 28 28.6% 21 28 75.0% 15 8 6 1.88 45% 1.36 1.25 33.3% 28
      ALDERSON BROADDUS 11/20/21 100-70 39 77 50.6% 11 32 34.4% 11 20 55.0% 24 15 17 1.60 62% 1.30 1.16 32.6% 31
      at Notre Dame (OH) 11/23/21 81-82 32 72 44.4% 8 23 34.8% 9 19 47.4% 18 10 12 1.80 56% 1.13 1.03 34.4% 21
      DAEMEN 11/29/21 63-61 24 60 40.0% 6 24 25.0% 9 19 47.4% 16 14 11 1.14 67% 1.05 0.88 28.6% 25
      at West Va. Wesleyan 12/01/21 120-72 44 81 54.3% 19 41 46.3% 13 14 92.9% 28 13 13 2.15 64% 1.48 1.56 50.0% 23
      DAVIS & ELKINS 12/04/21 100-69 39 70 55.7% 5 19 26.3% 17 24 70.8% 20 11 14 1.82 51% 1.43 1.20 30.0% 21
      CHARLESTON 12/08/21 89-78 29 61 47.5% 10 20 50.0% 21 32 65.6% 15 10 13 1.50 52% 1.46 1.16 22.2% 28
      at West Virginia State 12/13/21 86-84 29 65 44.6% 9 26 34.6% 19 22 86.4% 11 12 9 0.92 38% 1.32 1.12 28.6% 25
      WILMINGTON (DEL.) 12/19/21 108-74 39 67 58.2% 17 36 47.2% 13 17 76.5% 32 16 18 2.00 82% 1.61 1.42 40.0% 21

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      • It's true that things looked real smooth against WilmU. The Toppers were clicking. But against a 4-9 opponent, I would expect that. Hopefully that's a game that helps them develop some rhythm heading into the second half.

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        • Originally posted by Scrub View Post
          It's true that things looked real smooth against WilmU. The Toppers were clicking. But against a 4-9 opponent, I would expect that. Hopefully that's a game that helps them develop some rhythm heading into the second half.
          Good points. Against stronger teams, I agree that one would expect points per possession to decline. One encouraging sign was the quick extra pass or touch pass to give up a good shot for a great shot that led to easy or wide open shots. The ball was not sticking most of the game.

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          • FYI Here are national rankings of WLU in various statistics as of games completed by midnight Dec 19, 2021.

            A ranking of 33 or less puts WLU approximately in the 90th percentile among all D2 teams. it is amazing how well they are doing, given that they lost:
            • D2 All American in Dalton Bolon, who was second leading scorer in WLU history
            • All Conference player (and all region-level player IMHO) in Will Yoakum.
            • Also they lost a PG in Luke Dyer, who had the second highest Assist to Turnover ratio in history at 5.9 two years ago, and had incredible steals per minute played stats.
            Date National Ranking West Liberty rank Value
            12/19/2021 Steals Per Game 2 13.00
            12/19/2021 Scoring Offense 3 95.80
            12/19/2021 Turnover Margin 3 8.50
            12/19/2021 Turnovers Forced 3 20.73
            12/19/2021 Assists Per Game 4 20.00
            12/19/2021 Assist Turnover Ratio 9 1.64
            12/19/2021 Scoring Margin 10 18.00
            12/19/2021 Three-Point Field Goals Per Game 16 10.90
            12/19/2021 Three-Point Attempts 23 309
            12/19/2021 Free-Throw Attempts 26 243.00
            12/19/2021 Field-Goal Percentage 29 49.23
            12/19/2021 Offensive Rebounds per game 33 13.09
            12/19/2021 Three-Point Field-Goal Percentage 33 38.83

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            • FYI – Comparison of Stats between this year’s WLU team and prior years’ team through 12/20/2021
              • Nearly 63% of forced turnovers are from steals -these are live ball turnovers that usually lead to good scoring opportunities in transition.
              • Current assist to turnover ratio is the best in 5 years at 1.66.
              • The difference in the assist to turnover ratio between WLU and its opponents is 1.13, which is the best in 5 years. It is incredible, since opponents are trying to slow the pace to a half-court game.
              • Offensive rebounding efficiency has improved to a very good 33.5%, which is comparable to the pre-Bolon and pre-Yoakum years.
              • Scoring margin is nearly 19 points, which is good, given the difficult schedule.
              • Although getting about 4 shots less than the previous 2 years, our points per FGA is nearly equal at 1.36.
              • Despite the slow down efforts of opponents, WLU is getting 80 possessions a game, due to many forced live ball turnovers in the backcourt.
              • Slowly but surely, 3FG % is climbing toward 40%.
              • FT% still needs improvement.


              TeamYear year start Team GP FG Pct 3FG PCT FT PCT Reb Per Game Assist to Turnover Ratio Shots per 40 min Points Per Shot Points Per Possession Possessions per game Num Possessions Off Reb Efficiency Three FGA per Game FGA per Game Assist to Turnover Ratio Margin (WLU-Opp.) steals to forced TO Ratio PPP Margin (WLU - Opp.) Scoring Margin (WLU - Opp.)
              WLU2021 2021 WLU 11 49% 39% 69% 38 1.66 70.7 1.36 1.20 80 875 33.5% 28 71 1.13 63% 0.23 18.73
              WLU2020 2020 WLU 23 49% 37% 75% 43 1.58 74.2 1.36 1.25 81 1856 37.4% 30 74 0.80 55% 0.24 20.39
              WLU2019 2019 WLU 31 51% 41% 77% 42 1.62 74.5 1.37 1.27 80 2490 37.0% 28 75 0.95 57% 0.29 24.00
              WLU2018 2018 WLU 33 50% 43% 78% 42 1.49 70.7 1.40 1.27 79 2615 37.4% 28 72 0.51 55% 0.15 11.79
              WLU2017 2017 WLU 30 48% 38% 77% 44 1.98 77.1 1.36 1.28 82 2473 36.2% 34 77 1.22 56% 0.26 21.90
              WLU2016 2016 WLU 32 49% 36% 72% 41 1.96 70.4 1.34 1.25 78 2491 32.7% 31 72 1.10 54% 0.22 18.16
              WLU2015 2015 WLU 35 50% 41% 73% 43 1.80 68.7 1.42 1.25 79 2767 31.6% 29 69 0.80 55% 0.23 18.91
              WLU2014 2014 WLU 32 52% 41% 71% 40 1.70 68.5 1.46 1.28 79 2517 34.9% 27 69 0.83 62% 0.21 17.56
              WLU2013 2013 WLU 35 49% 40% 75% 42 1.84 72.4 1.36 1.26 79 2773 34.0% 30 73 1.05 59% 0.23 18.00
              WLU2012 2012 WLU 36 52% 41% 76% 41 1.65 72.1 1.43 1.28 80 2886 39.0% 27 72 1.06 59% 0.30 24.14

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              • Luke Denbow ashland 2022 signee is tearing it up this season.

                The lefty is a deadly scorer from three, midrange and at the rim.
                Quick release.
                Could play pg or sg.
                Perfect fit for wlu

                33 pts 6 assists
                32 pts 6 assists
                30 pts 6 assists
                24 pts 7 assists

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                • FYI
                  WLU now #8 in NABC poll , with Nova SE #4.

                  https://hilltoppersports.com/news/20...nabc-poll.aspx

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                  • The girls must have covid issues there’s only 7 players tonight. Hopefully the guys don’t have any issues

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                    • Originally posted by Layton View Post
                      The girls must have covid issues there’s only 7 players tonight. Hopefully the guys don’t have any issues
                      Yup. And only 2 of the 7 present are regular starters. But, this is why you need good depth on your team. This is a prime opportunity for some bench players to step up!

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                      • Very gutty effort by them

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                        • Still no Yoakum and Watson isn’t dressed. Did we ever figure out when Yoakum will be back?

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                          • Pretty big ref show tonight

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                            • IMHO These last three games have illustrated how the wlu style presents different avenues to win big, even if wlu is having an off night.

                              Wilmington - 32 assists on 39 fgs. Given some fgs were due to instant steal and scores that are not applicable for an assist, that is nearly a maximum ratio. It demoralizes teams because it leads to easy shots and negates help defenses. Add in 20 plus turnovers and u have high level wlu basketball and high pts. per possession. Wlu basketball was near its best in many areas.

                              Bowie State - tall, long, athletic team with great shooting. They closed out on shooters to block shots. Wlu was rusty after the break. But these bsu players were not skilled in team passing against pressure and gave up many live ball turnovers, with 20 turnovers in the first half alone. Wlu also out-rebounded bsu. They won despite shooting poorly and bsu shooting over 50% from three.

                              Concord - great scheme by them to protect the lane to stop drives. Turnovers tied at 17 each. Sloppy night for wlu where players were forcing drives that weren't there, when guys were open due to sagging defense. Quality depth of wlu allowed pressure to wear out Concord, which made them a step slow, despite their efforts to slow the pace of the game. Big rebound advantage for wlu plus our pressure won the day despite inconsistent officiating.

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                              • This team is just soooo hot and cold. And there doesn't seem to be any rime or reason to it. Would it surprise anyone if they lost to Frostburg 71-68 and then beat Fairmont 110-85??

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