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  • Can't beleive the ending ... but, in three decades of watching IUP basketball ... Malik Miller is on my First Team.

    We never got to see his final act, but make no mistake, he's one of the best players to ever play here. That says a lot.

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    • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
      Can't beleive the ending ... but, in three decades of watching IUP basketball ... Malik Miller is on my First Team.

      We never got to see his final act, but make no mistake, he's one of the best players to ever play here. That says a lot.
      It’s a shame for seniors across the country. Maybe there is a solution?

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      • I feel for all of the kids who lose out on the opportunity at all levels. I think this is probably the right decision. I would rather look back and say we overreacted.

        I remember writing an emotional post regarding the 2015 team when that journey ended. Here’s this one...

        My heart breaks for these players, specifically for Malik and Chucky. It’s been a pleasure to watch those two grow the last few years. Chucky for two. And Malik for four. Part of my enjoyment of watching college sports is seeing the development of players over their careers. When you’re sad to see them go, it means they were special. I’m sad to see both go.

        Joe Lombardi often talks about how you “make big games.” This team played in a bunch of them this year. The longer this season progressed, the more I started to realize the similarities between this team and the one in 2015. Both groups overcame adversity and got remarkably better as the season progressed.

        If there’s any solace in this, it’s that the last game this group played together was one that they won a championship. They cut down the nets twice this year. Joe talks about it all the time, but this team had a “championship DNA.”

        I think it’s okay for us to be sad. I am. But I think we can also look back and recognize this team for what they were.... Champions.

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        • Well said, IUP 24. I was having similar thoughts about WLU. Last week, those conference tournament championships seemed insignificant on one level. The REAL tournament wasn't gonna start until today. It is often easy to overlook the significance of the conference tourney when your team is already guaranteed a spot in the "big dance." But now that the big dance has hung up its dancing shoes, I find myself cherishing the conference tourney win far more than I did last Sunday. At least I got to see a championship game (even if it was only for the MEC championship).

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          • Originally posted by Scrub View Post
            Well said, IUP 24. I was having similar thoughts about WLU. Last week, those conference tournament championships seemed insignificant on one level. The REAL tournament wasn't gonna start until today. It is often easy to overlook the significance of the conference tourney when your team is already guaranteed a spot in the "big dance." But now that the big dance has hung up its dancing shoes, I find myself cherishing the conference tourney win far more than I did last Sunday. At least I got to see a championship game (even if it was only for the MEC championship).
            I think the sad part is that for kids on teams like IUP and WLU, they don’t get the chance to finish the job. For kids on teams like Robert Morris, they miss out on the opportunity to live out their childhood dream.

            I’m sure there were a lot tears in locker rooms, hotel rooms, dorms, etc. It’s sad. But again, probably the right decision.

            I’m sad to see this be the ending for Chucky and Malik. Great kids.

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            • Originally posted by IUP24 View Post

              I think the sad part is that for kids on teams like IUP and WLU, they don’t get the chance to finish the job. For kids on teams like Robert Morris, they miss out on the opportunity to live out their childhood dream.

              I’m sure there were a lot tears in locker rooms, hotel rooms, dorms, etc. It’s sad. But again, probably the right decision.

              I’m sad to see this be the ending for Chucky and Malik. Great kids.
              Probably a lot of anger after driving 10 hours on a bus, getting here and being told to turn around.

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              • So ... in theory a new season began yesterday.

                Those returning in 2020-21 for what will be a loaded IUP roster:

                Guards

                David Morris
                Armoni Foster
                Shawndale Jones
                Anthony White
                Bryce Radford
                K.J. Rhodes

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                Ethan Porterfield (6'9")
                Tommy Demogerontas (6'8" and will play all five positions at times)
                Ousmane Diop (6'10")
                Shawn Ulrich (6'8")

                Walk-ons

                Dylan Benton
                Anthony Glover Jr.


                As of now, Joe's recruiting class this year will be comprised of one player. There's only one spot. By my count of the above, they have (9) scholarships being used -- which leaves one full ride. Ulrich and Anthony White combine for one full ride. The others -- I believe -- are on full ticket.

                So, the question becomes if you can take one guy in what will be a National Title push ... what position? Joe likes to stay stocked up for the future so I assume it will be a multi-year transfer. Although, there is already a name floating around who would be a one-year guy at the small forward position.

                They really like both Rhodes and Radford. Both could have played this year as true freshmen. Radford was lost for the season in camp and Joe decided to redshirt Rhodes due to a lack of available minutes. By all accounts I'm told Diop will be a Day 1 starter next winter.

                To add a guard this off-season ... would really just have to be the perfect fit. I'm kind of leaning toward a Chucky-type playmaker/defender.

                Make no mistake, expectations will be through the roof next November. This is likely a preseason Top 3 team.

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                • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                  Can't beleive the ending ... but, in three decades of watching IUP basketball ... Malik Miller is on my First Team.

                  We never got to see his final act, but make no mistake, he's one of the best players to ever play here. That says a lot.

                  I haven't watched enough of Malik Miller's career to know if he is on the first team in the last 30 years of IUP Basketball...

                  Curious, IUP big though, who does Malik Miller bump from this team of 5 IUP Players (and I"m probably missing a few).

                  Misenko
                  Darryl Webb
                  Devante Chance
                  Ashton Smith
                  Norfleet

                  These in top 5?
                  Keita?
                  McClain?

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                  • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                    So ... in theory a new season began yesterday.

                    Those returning in 2020-21 for what will be a loaded IUP roster:

                    Guards

                    David Morris
                    Armoni Foster
                    Shawndale Jones
                    Anthony White
                    Bryce Radford
                    K.J. Rhodes

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                    Ethan Porterfield (6'9")
                    Tommy Demogerontas (6'8" and will play all five positions at times)
                    Ousmane Diop (6'10")
                    Shawn Ulrich (6'8")

                    Walk-ons

                    Dylan Benton
                    Anthony Glover Jr.


                    As of now, Joe's recruiting class this year will be comprised of one player. There's only one spot. By my count of the above, they have (9) scholarships being used -- which leaves one full ride. Ulrich and Anthony White combine for one full ride. The others -- I believe -- are on full ticket.

                    So, the question becomes if you can take one guy in what will be a National Title push ... what position? Joe likes to stay stocked up for the future so I assume it will be a multi-year transfer. Although, there is already a name floating around who would be a one-year guy at the small forward position.

                    They really like both Rhodes and Radford. Both could have played this year as true freshmen. Radford was lost for the season in camp and Joe decided to redshirt Rhodes due to a lack of available minutes. By all accounts I'm told Diop will be a Day 1 starter next winter.

                    To add a guard this off-season ... would really just have to be the perfect fit. I'm kind of leaning toward a Chucky-type playmaker/defender.

                    Make no mistake, expectations will be through the roof next November. This is likely a preseason Top 3 team.
                    Will IUP and WL land in Preseason Top 5 next year? or Top 3? WL loses no one...and adds the 2nd highest scoring player in OHIO HS basketball history.... Crazy how much d2 talent within 2 hours of each other!

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                    • Originally posted by IUP24 View Post

                      I think the sad part is that for kids on teams like IUP and WLU, they don’t get the chance to finish the job. For kids on teams like Robert Morris, they miss out on the opportunity to live out their childhood dream.

                      I’m sure there were a lot tears in locker rooms, hotel rooms, dorms, etc. It’s sad. But again, probably the right decision.

                      I’m sad to see this be the ending for Chucky and Malik. Great kids.
                      I was kind of flip about this yesterday but it really is ashame. Malik Ellison, who was at Pitt and then went to Hartford was on Sportscenter last night along with his coach. They were supposed to play tomorrow for what could have been the school’s first ever bid. They both came off great but you could hear the hurt in their voices. This whole thing really sucks. I think you nailed it in the other thread. These things needed to happen to contain this virus, but we’d better learn from this. This sort of mass shutdown every 5 or 10 years simply cannot happen.

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                      • Originally posted by IUP Extra Mile View Post


                        I haven't watched enough of Malik Miller's career to know if he is on the first team in the last 30 years of IUP Basketball...

                        Curious, IUP big though, who does Malik Miller bump from this team of 5 IUP Players (and I"m probably missing a few).

                        Misenko
                        Darryl Webb
                        Devante Chance
                        Ashton Smith
                        Norfleet

                        These in top 5?
                        Keita?
                        McClain?
                        I guess you'd have different categories based on how long a player was here. If you go by single seasons ... Rodney Horton and Dennis Mimms are on every list. Everybody on these lists also always forgets about Mike Beckles and Steve Menifee.


                        BTW, where the hell have you been?

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                        • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                          I guess you'd have different categories based on how long a player was here. If you go by single seasons ... Rodney Horton and Dennis Mimms are on every list. Everybody on these lists also always forgets about Mike Beckles and Steve Menifee.


                          BTW, where the hell have you been?
                          Been busy....but still lurking...but obviously not posting much...Now I have some time on my hands, don't we all..... Message boards are good for social distancing...

                          Good points about those 4 players...so you still putting Malik in your top 5? not arguing, just curious how you rate...

                          May be before your era, but if you look at single seasons or some delineation, Paul Newman scored 1000 points in 2 seasons....early 90's

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                          • Originally posted by Chuck Norris View Post

                            I was kind of flip about this yesterday but it really is ashame. Malik Ellison, who was at Pitt and then went to Hartford was on Sportscenter last night along with his coach. They were supposed to play tomorrow for what could have been the school’s first ever bid. They both came off great but you could hear the hurt in their voices. This whole thing really sucks. I think you nailed it in the other thread. These things needed to happen to contain this virus, but we’d better learn from this. This sort of mass shutdown every 5 or 10 years simply cannot happen.
                            Right. This won't be the last time that a new virus emerges and there's a pandemic. They've happened before. It's happening now. And it will happen again. All of what's going on now sets a scary precedent. That said, none of us will think about sports if somebody we know, or if we personally contract the virus. But I'll add, the crowd saying, "it's just sports" is blindly off base.

                            For many, sports is their livelihood - and I'm not talking about the athletes making millions of dollars. Ushers, ticket takers, vendors, etc... Their income is now gone indefinitely. The restaurants, bars, other establishments outside sporting venues are going to be hit incredibly hard by this. The owners of these businesses rely on the fans coming to their establishment to make their money, to pay their employees, and to feed their own families. The waiters, waitresses, and bartenders at these places make their money primarily from tips. People aren't coming anymore. They are losing their income.

                            Think about the NCAA Tournament. A city like Albany isn't a massive metropolis. Them getting to host the first two rounds of the NCAA Tournament was a big deal. Think of the money that comes into those hotels and other establishments around the city because you have fans from 4-8 teams in your city for 4 days. That destroys their economy.

                            Then you think of the players. I think we're all too blinded by "big time" college athletics. Duke, Kansas, North Carolina, etc... At the Division 1 level, imagine being a kid who played for Dayton or San Diego State. That was a once in a lifetime opportunity. Paul Zeise spoke at length about this last night. His daughter is a junior basketball player at Stony Brook. They were 28-3 and set to play Maine in the America East championship for the right to go to the NCAA Tournament tonight. He talked about how devastated she was. She may never get that chance again. It's sad for all of those players, but it was a decision that needed to happen.

                            I think there's a couple of things that people are going to realize here....

                            1) I don't think people quite realize how much of a driver sports really is to the economy of our country. I think the "it's just sports" crowd will realize that.

                            2) I think for sports fans, we'll realize just how much we really live our lives around sports.

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                            • Originally posted by IUP Extra Mile View Post

                              Been busy....but still lurking...but obviously not posting much...Now I have some time on my hands, don't we all..... Message boards are good for social distancing...

                              Good points about those 4 players...so you still putting Malik in your top 5? not arguing, just curious how you rate...

                              May be before your era, but if you look at single seasons or some delineation, Paul Newman scored 1000 points in 2 seasons....early 90's

                              My 'first team' would have (7) players (as that's the new trend in such things). These are mainly single season, eye test, etc. (not career stats)

                              Rodney Horton
                              Dennis Mimms
                              Misenko
                              Webb
                              Jacobo Diaz
                              Malik Miller
                              DeVante Chance


                              "Sixth Men" - Ashton Smith, Brandon Norfleet, Mike Beckles, Mathis Keita, Marcel Souberbielle, Steve Menifee, DeWayne Anthony


                              When it's all said and done, Armoni Foster may be better than all of them.


                              If you get in to 'career' ... that's more difficult. For instance, DeVante Chance really didn't become the DeVante that we remember until about half way through his Junior season.

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                              • You guys are talking about where Malik fits on your All-IUP team. Meanwhile this: https://hilltoppersports.com/news/20...-the-year.aspx

                                If you ask me, your guy Malik got robbed. Bolon certainly had a nice season, and I didn't balk at his winning conference POY (although, NBA-wannabe Bledsoe did have a pretty dominant statistical year). But there's no way I saw Bolon as the top guy in the whole Region. If you'd have asked me last week who would win the Regional POY, I would have said Malik Miller in a heartbeat. I might have even said Biss was #2 before getting to Bolon.

                                Again, don't get me wrong, I love watching Bolon play and I appreciate the effort he puts out every night. But it just didn't seem like he had that dominant, opponents-plan-for-you kinda year this year. Definitely happy for him. But surprised the Senior Miller--who had to be neck-and-neck with him in voters' eyes--didn't get the nod.

                                But it's also entirely possible that I fail to appreciate what Bolon brings because I'm privileged to watch him every night out.

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