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I remember going into last season, people thought IUP needed another big recruit or transfer. I thought keeping Cobo was the biggest roster add. I'm not sure if he had offers to leave and think he likes it at IUP, but I'd be very surprised if someone didn't try to poach him for his last two years of eligibility. A year of practicing as a redshirt at a mid-major or Atlantic 10 school would be huge. 6-9 guys with fundamentals, an inside-outside game and can play the 3, 4 or 5 don't just fall off trees (or end up at D-2 programs often).

Look at Zach Hankins. He left Ferris State after last season and is now starting for Xavier -- a very strong D1 program.

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Rhodes and Porterfield both signed. Twitter official from IUP.

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Just like the Mt. Union argument in football.

Pitt may beat IUP but there's zero chance it's not going down to the final five minutes.

Ferris State would have blown Pitt out of the building last year.

I'm a Pitt fan ... had basketball season tickets for years. They are now just much closer to D2 than the ACC.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Just like the Mt. Union argument in football.

Pitt may beat IUP but there's zero chance it's not going down to the final five minutes.

Ferris State would have blown Pitt out of the building last year.

I'm a Pitt fan ... had basketball season tickets for years. They are now just much closer to D2 than the ACC.

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So since D3 Westminster hung with DII IUP (by making treys rain on them) and DII IUP hung with Kentucky (by making treys rain on them) AND the latter is proof that IUP would beat Pitt, does that equally mean that D3 Westminster would be able to hang with Pitt? At what relative "level" would Westminster start beating PSAC teams? #2? #3? #4?...

Since SUNY-Genesco beat Westminster, could they beat IUP???

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But I didn't say they were. We need to give Capel a chance here and not link him to the past two years of the Stullings era. They are currently 5-0 right now---yes, playing tomato cans as you aptly describe them. I agree with that. But go back and look at last season' schedule and see that Pitt was barely even able to win games against those types of teams. Capel has done a nice job of bringing in some good backcourt and one wing-type into the fold. The bangers in the paint need to be the next priority. Word is Capel has been burning the midnight oil in trying to get some good ones. Stay tuned for that.

ACC play will likely not be very pretty for Pitt this year unfortunately. But they are building.

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Dustin Sleva would have started every game at Pitt last year. Cobo would start there tomorrow.

I remember going into last season, people thought IUP needed another big recruit or transfer. I thought keeping Cobo was the biggest roster add. I'm not sure if he had offers to leave and think he likes it at IUP, but I'd be very surprised if someone didn't try to poach him for his last two years of eligibility. A year of practicing as a redshirt at a mid-major or Atlantic 10 school would be huge. 6-9 guys with fundamentals, an inside-outside game and can play the 3, 4 or 5 don't just fall off trees (or end up at D-2 programs often).

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Yes, thank you. Everyone needs to understand that Kentucky was merely "sparring" with IUP in an exhibition. You were not getting all-out and full-out Kentucky.

A team like the Wildcats that is stocked full of McDonald's All-Americans would blow past IUP by at least 40 in an actual game that they were really playing.

But I guess maybe Kentucky is down a little this year thus far from where they normally are. Or maybe Duke is just really ahead of the curve this season.

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If you think they were sparring I'd suggest watching the game. Having a D2 team make treys rain on you and putting on a dunk show in Rupp Arena wasn't part of the plans. Calipari himself said Cobo would start for the majority of teams in the SEC.

This wasn't about the Duke and Kentucky level. Those are NBA teams. I'm talking more about the lower and mid-level D1 teams -- and the basement P5 teams like Pitt, etc.

Elite D2 teams can play with them and will beat them occasionally. That gap is far smaller than most think. You wouldn't see a Duquesne type D1 schedule an IUP or West Liberty in a million years.

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Kentucky and Pitt aren't in the same stratosphere. Pitt is a glorified D2 program now and the oast 2 years.

But I didn't say they were. We need to give Capel a chance here and not link him to the past two years of the Stullings era. They are currently 5-0 right now---yes, playing tomato cans as you aptly describe them. I agree with that. But go back and look at last season' schedule and see that Pitt was barely even able to win games against those types of teams. Capel has done a nice job of bringing in some good backcourt and one wing-type into the fold. The bangers in the paint need to be the next priority. Word is Capel has been burning the midnight oil in trying to get some good ones. Stay tuned for that.

ACC play will likely not be very pretty for Pitt this year unfortunately. But they are building.

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[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Kentucky and Pitt aren't in the same stratosphere. Pitt is a glorified D2 program now and the oast 2 years.

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Being "competitive" in an exhibition game is quite a bit different than staying competitive in a regular season game.

Yes, thank you. Everyone needs to understand that Kentucky was merely "sparring" with IUP in an exhibition. You were not getting all-out and full-out Kentucky.

A team like the Wildcats that is stocked full of McDonald's All-Americans would blow past IUP by at least 40 in an actual game that they were really playing.

But I guess maybe Kentucky is down a little this year thus far from where they normally are. Or maybe Duke is just really ahead of the curve this season.

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I get that but UK never pulled its rotation. They played that game to win and played hard. They were only up 7 with 6 minutes left.

The gap isn't as gigantic as everybody thinks. Dustin Sleva would have started every game at Pitt last year. Cobo would start there tomorrow.

There's a reason WL can't get invited to Morgantown.

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I'd take IUP +14 in that game all day long. Cobo would be the best player on the floor. They stayed competitive with UK ... they'd compete with Pitt.

Pitt is looking decent against total dregs.

But, Pitt won't play them anymore so we'll never know.


Back to IUP talk, Bravado wasn't real happy in the Gazette today. It won't be a good film session today but that was needed. Their big heads took a step down last night.

Big weekend ahead.

The Sciences nearly beat Kutztown and are like playing Princeton. Very annoying. Mistake-free and all the backdoor, long shot clock stuff all night.

le Moyne, an Elite 8 team a year ago, will match-up size and depth-wise.


Hopefully the 240 people in attendance make some noise.


Tom plays at Cheyney today at 2 p.m.

Being "competitive" in an exhibition game is quite a bit different than staying competitive in a regular season game.

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I'd take IUP +14 in that game all day long. Cobo would be the best player on the floor. They stayed competitive with UK ... they'd compete with Pitt.

Pitt is looking decent against total dregs.

But, Pitt won't play them anymore so we'll never know.


Back to IUP talk, Bravado wasn't real happy in the Gazette today. It won't be a good film session today but that was needed. Their big heads took a step down last night.

Big weekend ahead.

The Sciences nearly beat Kutztown and are like playing Princeton. Very annoying. Mistake-free and all the backdoor, long shot clock stuff all night.

le Moyne, an Elite 8 team a year ago, will match-up size and depth-wise.


Hopefully the 240 people in attendance make some noise.


Tom plays at Cheyney today at 2 p.m.