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West Liberty exhausted them ... IUP held them to 86 points despite (3) OT. Lot of theories. Ultimately it's as simple as you had two very good teams there that day and somebody had to win and somebody had to lose. Same thing as the following year at WL when IUP won.
Currently -- and most importantly -- both programs need to get back on the 'national' track. Combined, they have one NCAA win in the past two seasons (IUP over Kutztown). Had somebody told you that 3 years ago you'd have laughed.
Both are in pretty good shape this upcoming season.
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I think Crutchfield, with his God-like powers, slightly altered the tilt and rotation of the earth at the exact instant that Jeremy and Marcel were shooting their free throws.Last edited by Chuck Norris; 08-03-2018, 07:26 AM.
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Originally posted by Columbuseer View PostThere are many reasons for missing a foul shot, such as those that you mentioned. Of course, none of us will ever know the predominant factor and players are not likely willing to admit that they were gassed. However, I would suggest that Boat's comments are not far-fetched at all, based on watching many WLU games. Their style is designed to create mental stress as well as mental and physical fatigue. The legs are critical to good shooting. When they get heavy with lactic acid, it affects shooting form as players sometimes try to compensate and get away from their stroke.
I have seen too many great shooters, 80+% free throw shooters, throw up bricks at the end of the FIRST HALF as well as at the end of the game. It has happened often enough that I cannot attribute it solely to statistical variation. Interestingly enough, I have also seen shooting go south at the beginning of the second half. Maybe a physiology professor can explain that one.
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There are many reasons for missing a foul shot, such as those that you mentioned. Of course, none of us will ever know the predominant factor and players are not likely willing to admit that they were gassed. However, I would suggest that Boat's comments are not far-fetched at all, based on watching many WLU games. Their style is designed to create mental stress as well as mental and physical fatigue. The legs are critical to good shooting. When they get heavy with lactic acid, it affects shooting form as players sometimes try to compensate and get away from their stroke.
I have seen too many great shooters, 80+% free throw shooters, throw up bricks at the end of the FIRST HALF as well as at the end of the game. It has happened often enough that I cannot attribute it solely to statistical variation. Interestingly enough, I have also seen shooting go south at the beginning of the second half. Maybe a physiology professor can explain that one.
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Originally posted by IUP24 View PostBe hard pressed all you want. IUP should have won that game in regulation.
I attribute missing those two free throws more to guys thinking about the situation and altering the mechanics just ever so slightly.
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Originally posted by boatcapt View PostAt their best, that is what WLU does...Tires you out which makes you make mistakes (like short arming FT's) and then drains 3's on the other end. IUP missed only two FT's in the second half while WLU made only three 3 pointers (the two you pointed out and one other)...game swung on those four shots.
I'd be hard pressed to say IUP "controlled the whole game" seeing as WLU did have a 3 point half time lead, IUP's largest lead was 6 points and that was in the first half while WLU lead by 9 in the second. Game was tied on eight different occasions in regulation. As I recall it, it was a game of runs with one team building a small (typically 5 or 6 point) lead and the other team clawing their way back.
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Better to play them in November than February, I suppose.
I was really hoping they'd play Pitt this year. They could possibly win that game.
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IUP will play at Kentucky in an exhibition game on Nov. 2. They'll have a week off before opening the season Nov. 9 in the IRMC Classic against Concord.
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Originally posted by IUP24 View PostYeah. Marcel missed the front end of a 1 and 1 with about 1:50 left. WL went down and promptly hit a 3. The with about a minute left, Jeffers missed the front end of a 1 and 1 too which also led to a WL 3.
IUP controlled that whole game and should have beaten West Liberty. That game never should have never reached overtime.
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I'd be hard pressed to say IUP "controlled the whole game" seeing as WLU did have a 3 point half time lead, IUP's largest lead was 6 points and that was in the first half while WLU lead by 9 in the second. Game was tied on eight different occasions in regulation. As I recall it, it was a game of runs with one team building a small (typically 5 or 6 point) lead and the other team clawing their way back.Last edited by boatcapt; 08-02-2018, 12:43 PM.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostThat one is still painful. It never should have made it to the first OT. Hit FTs and it was over in regulation.
Yeah. Marcel missed the front end of a 1 and 1 with about 1:50 left. WL went down and promptly hit a 3. The with about a minute left, Jeffers missed the front end of a 1 and 1 too which also led to a WL 3.
IUP controlled that whole game and should have beaten West Liberty. That game never should have never reached overtime.
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Originally posted by hawks16 View PostIUP only played with seven in the three-overtime regional semifinal against West Liberty in 2014. Marcel went for 27 and 10 off the bench in 43 minutes. Devante played 54 of 55 minutes and Mathis logged 52.
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IUP only played with seven in the three-overtime regional semifinal against West Liberty in 2014. Marcel went for 27 and 10 off the bench in 43 minutes. Devante played 54 of 55 minutes and Mathis logged 52.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostLOL ... I think Joe's dream in life is to go Norman Dale and play with four. Maybe dress 6 total with a local walk-on from Saltsburg.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostAaron Faulkner was another good one kind of lost to history.
How about crazy Fannar ? His 'departure' certainly soured his role in program history. He was a scrappy one, though, during his time here.
Goodness, so many great players over the years. We were all lucky to have been a part of it all.
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Faulkner gets lost because of who he played with. That kid could shoot.
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