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[The P in IUP]

If you ever think this board gets heated ... read the WVU boards today. Lol. This board is kids' stuff.

Old Coach Brown isn't real popular down in the wild and wonderful.

Brown hasn't popular in morgantown for years. He would have been fired in 2022 if not for the massive cost. He bought himself some time last year beating Pitt and winning a bowl game but if he struggles in new Big12-Pac-12-old big east this year he'll be out the door unless WVU's money issues keep him around another year.

[IUP24]

Brown hasn't popular in morgantown for years. He would have been fired in 2022 if not for the massive cost. He bought himself some time last year beating Pitt and winning a bowl game but if he struggles in new Big12-Pac-12-old big east this year he'll be out the door unless WVU's money issues keep him around another year.

I don't know the buyout situation with Brown. But I know that those decisions now are actual issues these schools have to deal with. It's not as simple as writing a 20 million dollar check to make a guy go away anymore. You now need that money as part of your 21 million dollars in revenue sharing. So would you rather have just an okay coach, but have money to get better players? Or would you rather make that coach go away and not have money to get better players? Those are the questions schools now have to ask.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I don't know the buyout situation with Brown. But I know that those decisions now are actual issues these schools have to deal with. It's not as simple as writing a 20 million dollar check to make a guy go away anymore. You now need that money as part of your 21 million dollars in revenue sharing. So would you rather have just an okay coach, but have money to get better players? Or would you rather make that coach go away and not have money to get better players? Those are the questions schools now have to ask.

His buyout is still enormous as of this season. If you believe most, that's why he's still there.

The fan base wasn't real crazy about him when he got hired. He's had a rough stay in Morgantown.

Blowing that late lead Saturday sure didn't help matters.

[IUP24]

His buyout is still enormous as of this season. If you believe most, that's why he's still there.

The fan base wasn't real crazy about him when he got hired. He's had a rough stay in Morgantown.

Blowing that late lead Saturday sure didn't help matters.

Objectively looking at everything involved in that game, I'm not sure how much Neal Brown is to blame for Saturday. Honestly. The only real bad move he made was on his punt protection on the punt after he just converted an impromptu fake. You had to know Pitt was going to come with pressure there from that side.

He got blasted for not going for it on a 4th and 1 two years ago near midfield and up a touchdown in the fourth quarter. Comparatively, he went for it on 4th down multiple times in that game on Saturday, specifically in the 2nd half. The possession they scored the TD on to go up 34-24, the touchdown pass came on a 3rd down where they tossed one to the end zone. Two years ago, he probably plays that more conservative. On their final possession on the third down play that Pitt sacked Garrett Greene, he wasn't playing it close to the vest. He wasn't just trying to get Pitt to burn timeouts. He gets a first down there, he wins the football game. He tried to throw the football. Certainly didn't coach a perfect game (nobody ever does), but overall, he coached to win the football game.

Even on the plays that Pitt made on the final 2 drives. The pass Holstein threw to Dejean Reynolds was thrown into triple coverage and he came down with it in the endzone. Two of those long runs Holstein had, WVU guys had hands on him but couldn't bring him down.

It's always easy to blame the coach. That entire game was back and forth. Unfortunately for WVU, the final 5 minutes resulted in Pitt making all the plays and their players making none.

[Fightingscot82]

Buckle up, here we go. Our first player hold out from unmet NIL promises.

https://apnews.com/article/unlv-sluk...66427158d964d3

[TheBigCat2192]

Buckle up, here we go. Our first player hold out from unmet NIL promises.

https://apnews.com/article/unlv-sluk...66427158d964d3

Didn’t Florida State have a highly touted recruit hold out over NIL? Technicalities aside I’m curious to hear more about what “representations” aren’t being met. I’m also curious whether or not Sluka will be at UNLV next season. I can’t imagine all of his teammates supporting this move and welcoming him back with open arms.

[IUP24]

Buckle up, here we go. Our first player hold out from unmet NIL promises.

https://apnews.com/article/unlv-sluk...66427158d964d3

It will be nice when the power of NIL is effectively neutralized in this capacity moving forward once the revenue sharing model kicks in. I've never been a proponent of paying college athletes, but I supported the principle of NIL (and that quickly went off the rails). The larger issue is that these collectives and boosters, which are essentially unaffiliated with the university, are the ones making these guarantees and promises. Moving forward, much of that money is going to be used to fund the revenue sharing in a lot of cases.

When the athletic departments at each school have the ability to engage in direct compensation via the revenue sharing model, and those payments are all above the line and transparent, it will be a far greater arrangement for everyone. This individual was offered a loose price for his services at UNLV by somebody unaffiliated with the university. He was probably advised poorly and the "agreement" was not iron clad or legally binding.

Again, I never supported the idea of paying all these individuals. But I'm in favor of what will prevent stories like this and stabilize things for most universities.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Buckle up, here we go. Our first player hold out from unmet NIL promises.

https://apnews.com/article/unlv-sluk...66427158d964d3

There's a second side to this story emerging. Some are reporting after this hot start he was demanding a 'pay raise' and threatening to leave if he wasn't paid more.

Either way, he can quit, take a redshirt and hit the open market.

[IUP24]

Didn’t Florida State have a highly touted recruit hold out over NIL? Technicalities aside I’m curious to hear more about what “representations” aren’t being met. I’m also curious whether or not Sluka will be at UNLV next season. I can’t imagine all of his teammates supporting this move and welcoming him back with open arms.

Florida had a recruit that they offered a 10 million dollar NIL deal to that they supposedly pulled back once he committed, or once he got to school. Forget all of the specifics.

[Chuck Norris]

Didn’t Florida State have a highly touted recruit hold out over NIL? Technicalities aside I’m curious to hear more about what “representations” aren’t being met. I’m also curious whether or not Sluka will be at UNLV next season. I can’t imagine all of his teammates supporting this move and welcoming him back with open arms.

On one hand it is very sad that this is where we are in college sports, but it is what it is. And this dude was a monster at the FCS level. UNLV, or someone very close to the program, clearly promised him the world to go there and he was absolutely delivering for them so far this season. I’m sure there will be some resentment toward him, but the bulk of the anger is probably at whoever dropped the ball in giving him what he was promised.

[IUP24]

There's a second side to this story emerging. Some are reporting after this hot start he was demanding a 'pay raise' and threatening to leave if he wasn't paid more.

Either way, he can quit, take a redshirt and hit the open market.

This is why Dayon Hayes left Pitt. That's the actual reason. Not any beef with Narduzzi. Not because he loved "Coach Prime."

- After a decent 2022 season, he asked for a crap load of NIL money. Pitt gave it to him.

- He had a just okay 2023 season and he essentially asked for Pitt to give him every additional dollar of NIL money they had left. Pitt gave it to him.

- After the spring, he said he wanted more money (a 3rd time). Pitt said "no," and he entered the portal. But his deal was monetarily legitimate and there was no clause that required him to be at Pitt to keep all the Pitt NIL dollars. So he took Pitt's money and transferred 48 hours after tweeting about his role as a mentor to the young guys and that he wanted to be remembered as a hometown hero.

- He has not been playing good football and the report is Prime didn't actually give him much NIL money at all. Good riddance. He can go play average defensive end for all the Coach Prime fanboys.

[TheBigCat2192]

Florida had a recruit that they offered a 10 million dollar NIL deal to that they supposedly pulled back once he committed, or once he got to school. Forget all of the specifics.

That might be it. I think that one actually involved a lawsuit although I’m not sure if it went anywhere.

[Chuck Norris]

There's a second side to this story emerging. Some are reporting after this hot start he was demanding a 'pay raise' and threatening to leave if he wasn't paid more.

Either way, he can quit, take a redshirt and hit the open market.

Interesting. Scratch my last post. Lol

[IUPbigINDIANS]

This is why Dayon Hayes left Pitt. That's the actual reason. Not any beef with Narduzzi. Not because he loved "Coach Prime."

- After a decent 2022 season, he asked for a crap load of NIL money. Pitt gave it to him.

- He had a just okay 2023 season and he essentially asked for Pitt to give him every additional dollar of NIL money they had left. Pitt gave it to him.

- After the spring, he said he wanted more money (a 3rd time). Pitt said "no," and he entered the portal. But his deal was monetarily legitimate and there was no clause that required him to be at Pitt to keep all the Pitt NIL dollars. So he took Pitt's money and transferred 48 hours after tweeting about his role as a mentor to the young guys and that he wanted to be remembered as a hometown hero.

- He has not been playing good football and the report is Prime didn't actually give him much NIL money at all. Good riddance. He can go play average defensive end for all the Coach Prime fanboys.

Major college football is the biggest cesspool of any sport. There are layers to this stuff -- many exist well below what the average fan can see.

It's hilarious to me a college QB, during the season, can threaten to walk if the school doesn't pony up. They call that blackmail. Great teammate lol.

But, as the old saying goes, if somebody is handing you money ... take it.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

On one hand it is very sad that this is where we are in college sports, but it is what it is. And this dude was a monster at the FCS level. UNLV, or someone very close to the program, clearly promised him the world to go there and he was absolutely delivering for them so far this season. I’m sure there will be some resentment toward him, but the bulk of the anger is probably at whoever dropped the ball in giving him what he was promised.

The bolded words there are what is troubling to me. In some of these cases, we're talking millions of dollars. That doesn't work in 'promises'. When you're dealing in numbers with a couple commas, there are no longer 'handshake' deals.

You would surely think these superstar mercenaries (and their legal people) demand this money to be in their bank account at the time they sign the dotted line. Or, don't sign.

The redshirt rule -- as in the UNLV case -- gives these guys a free out (essentially). They can play 3 games and still redshirt.

I have no objection to these kids cashing in. These college stars have value. Adding value costs money.