The NCAA will allow both triads to maintain distinct athletic programs: https://buhuskies.com/news/2022/4/20...versities.aspx https://calvulcans.com/news/2022/4/2...-programs.aspx
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Originally posted by Inkblot View PostThe NCAA will allow both triads to maintain distinct athletic programs: https://buhuskies.com/news/2022/4/20...versities.aspx https://calvulcans.com/news/2022/4/2...-programs.aspx
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
To quote the band Dawes, it's a little bit of everything. Hanna hasn't been in charge long so he bears the least blame. Greenstein is only to blame for concocting this stupid merger plan. I think the blame lies the most with the PASSHE Board of Governors and the local Councils of Trustees. They all sat there and took every administrator in the last 20 years at face value. Some of it was cockeyed optimism, some of it was falsehood. They also allowed first time presidents to enact really half-baked tuition pricing gimmicks. You know how/why someone will attend a place like Mansfield? Its cheap and they feel comfortable/wanted.
Mansfield might have the #2 music program in PASSHE after West Chester. That alone might be worth keeping them open in person.
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Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
So I guess this clears the way for any state school with multiple locations to start duplicate athletic programs. Heck, guess it would be OK for Penn State to start football programs at any of it's satelite campuses as a means of increasing enrollment...Let's see, I can play DII football at Edinboro OR D1 at Penn State Behrend. Hummmmm...Which one should I choose?? Maybe Penn State Beaver could use a shot in the enrolement arm? No problem, start a football team and watch enrollment jump!
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Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
So I guess this clears the way for any state school with multiple locations to start duplicate athletic programs. Heck, guess it would be OK for Penn State to start football programs at any of it's satelite campuses as a means of increasing enrollment...Let's see, I can play DII football at Edinboro OR D1 at Penn State Behrend. Hummmmm...Which one should I choose?? Maybe Penn State Beaver could use a shot in the enrolement arm? No problem, start a football team and watch enrollment jump!
Anyhow, this merger is basically the same as one Vermont did a couple years ago, combining Johnson State and Lyndon State into Northern Vermont University while maintaining separate athletic programs.
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Originally posted by Inkblot View Post
There's never been a rule preventing Penn State Behrend from having football.
Anyhow, this merger is basically the same as one Vermont did a couple years ago, combining Johnson State and Lyndon State into Northern Vermont University while maintaining separate athletic programs.
Does one become the 'football school' and the other becomes the 'basketball school', etc.
I realize they will all three have a football team but I'm curious to see how this all plays out.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
The interesting thing will be how these 'triad' athletic departments co-exist.
Does one become the 'football school' and the other becomes the 'basketball school', etc.
I realize they will all three have a football team but I'm curious to see how this all plays out.
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Originally posted by CALUPA69 View Post
Truth be told other than CAL and BLOOM, the other four schools are largely schedule filler. In the last 50 years counting FB, BB, MBB, WBB, SB and VB CAL has won 37 and BLOOM 25 championships. The other four have a combined 47 championships in those sports in 50 years. Specialty sports (WR, FH, M&W SW, M&W TF) aside, the athletics departments at these locations are basically enrollment and tuition boosters.
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Originally posted by jrshooter View Post
You're doing some serious pick-and-choosing with those sports. Tell me why softball and women's volleyball are in a different category than wrestling and field hockey.
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Originally posted by CALUPA69 View Post
Both SB and VB are played by all 18 PSAC schools while WR (8) and FH (11) not so much. Doesn't make them less important to the participants or their schools but I was pointing out that the 6 sports most widely played were not really viable in 4 of the 6 branches of the merged institutions. IMO, were it not for NCAA minimum requirements, there really isn't a reason other than schedule filling and enrollment/tuition boosting for these schools to participate in those six sports. Purely personal observation.
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Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post
It's not. I disagree that all these sports at all these schools are "schedule fillers" and enrollment boosters. I think the long tradition of the student-athlete is alive and well at all of these schools. It's more about participation than what you are saying.
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Originally posted by CALUPA69 View Post
Both SB and VB are played by all 18 PSAC schools while WR (8) and FH (11) not so much. Doesn't make them less important to the participants or their schools but I was pointing out that the 6 sports most widely played were not really viable in 4 of the 6 branches of the merged institutions. IMO, were it not for NCAA minimum requirements, there really isn't a reason other than schedule filling and enrollment/tuition boosting for these schools to participate in those six sports. Purely personal observation.
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Originally posted by boatcapt View Post
So I guess this clears the way for any state school with multiple locations to start duplicate athletic programs. Heck, guess it would be OK for Penn State to start football programs at any of it's satelite campuses as a means of increasing enrollment...Let's see, I can play DII football at Edinboro OR D1 at Penn State Behrend. Hummmmm...Which one should I choose?? Maybe Penn State Beaver could use a shot in the enrolement arm? No problem, start a football team and watch enrollment jump!
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Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
Penn State Behrend is D3. The only Penn State outlet store that's explored football was Altoona when it was thriving in the 90s (no longer so) but that was aborted, oddly because Paterno balked at the proposal that included hiring Jerry Sandusky has head coach.
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