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  • Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

    We talk about not having the depth to compete with out-of-region powers then we get depth and we talk about keeping everybody happy. Know what I'm saying?

    IUP has traditionally sought to be 4 deep at RB. Basically, if the 4 are the players I am thinking of, we have 2 elite RB's (whose styles are different, BTW) and 2 guys with a lot of experience for "depth", if that is the appropriate word.

    Also, the "unhappy" theme assumes that the players are me first rather than team players. I don't think that is true.

    Also, don't overlook the FB types they have back there if they choose to use them.
    I don't think RB depth is the type of depth anyone was referring to when competing with the out of region powers. IMO, the depth is strictly in the trenches and that is where our region falls short. I also don't know how you could say that the "unhappy" theme might not apply. That room is now upperclassmen and has been in it through unhappy times. Can't say either way.

    I think you guys wasted scholarship money on a position you really didn't need. Of course this is based on who we think is coming back, so maybe we don't have the full picture here.

    Don't overlook the FB types? You guys certainly don't use them as a threat, so unless that is all of a sudden going to change, I'll overlook it.

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    • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

      No doubt more the merrier.

      My point was I think some other positions were in need of said depth (in particular you can always use more on either line).

      I'm sure the Bloom RB is going to have a big season. I just worry about line depth.

      End of the day Tort is working a salary cap. That's a lot of coin tied up in RBs.
      So you think Stewart is going to be "cool" with being 2nd fiddle then? After being the guy for the last couple years...

      Agree completely on line depth, there should be no end to adding to either of those position groups. Region 1 isn't lacking in depth at the skill positions, it's just up front.

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      • Originally posted by Ram040506 View Post

        So you think Stewart is going to be "cool" with being 2nd fiddle then? After being the guy for the last couple years...

        Agree completely on line depth, there should be no end to adding to either of those position groups. Region 1 isn't lacking in depth at the skill positions, it's just up front.
        Stewart won't be second fiddle. He'll be the starter. This is his team now. Not the other way around.

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        • Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

          Speaking of big rosters, I had counted 51 names on the Shippensburg spring roster prior to signing day. At last count, Mac's incoming class was up to 48 players, by far his largest ever. I think it's safe to say there will be some movement on the Raiders' roster in the coming season.
          Yeah a big number will either stay as Ship students or just move along. Football is great at this level for dangling the carrot. Consider about 70 percent of our teams pay their own way. Hell, I'd sign 300 if possible. Dangle that carrot.

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          • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

            Stewart won't be second fiddle. He'll be the starter. This is his team now. Not the other way around.
            Stewart is a damn good back. The backups are good too. That was the whole point in I just didn't understand the need for another really good RB, especially one with 1 year eligibility left. I just don't understand it, why would Monaco go somewhere where he's going to be more than likely a special teams returner and 3rd down back for the most part? Perhaps winning was the most important thing to him and he doesn't care about the touches. That would be rare but losing can have that effect i guess.

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            • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

              Yeah a big number will either stay as Ship students or just move along. Football is great at this level for dangling the carrot. Consider about 70 percent of our teams pay their own way. Hell, I'd sign 300 if possible. Dangle that carrot.
              I think Mac was to the point of having to do something after the past couple of years and to his credit he and his staff by all accounts went out and got the work done. We'll see how it works out. I don't expect big things next season, but it would be nice if some of these guys stick around and eventually get us back to overall competitiveness.

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              • Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

                I think Mac was to the point of having to do something after the past couple of years and to his credit he and his staff by all accounts went out and got the work done. We'll see how it works out. I don't expect big things next season, but it would be nice if some of these guys stick around and eventually get us back to overall competitiveness.
                My guess is he got a good class. As I said, many of the perceived 'big boys' in the PSAC took pretty small high school classes. That in itself should have left a lot of quality players available.

                Of course, signing them is the first step. Getting them to Senior Day (at Ship) is the next challenge.

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                • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                  My guess is he got a good class. As I said, many of the perceived 'big boys' in the PSAC took pretty small high school classes. That in itself should have left a lot of quality players available.

                  Of course, signing them is the first step. Getting them to Senior Day (at Ship) is the next challenge.
                  He seemed to concentrate on staying closer to home this time as they've let some good players from our area get away in recent years. I suspect you might see a little more of this in basketball as well, although I'm sure Fite will continue to look for players in western Pa. and elsewhere.

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                  • While we suspected it, the Ashland game is now confirmed on Thursday night.

                    Ashland has a tremendous stadium. I'd venture to say it is one of the nicest D2 facilities in the country.

                    There's no track so you are really close to the action. If you plan on doing a road trip this upcoming season this is a good one.

                    IUP took a nice crowd out there in 2018. There are nice tailgate lots and a couple nice bar/restaurants close by.

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                    • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                      While we suspected it, the Ashland game is now confirmed on Thursday night.

                      Ashland has a tremendous stadium. I'd venture to say it is one of the nicest D2 facilities in the country.

                      There's no track so you are really close to the action. If you plan on doing a road trip this upcoming season this is a good one.

                      IUP took a nice crowd out there in 2018. There are nice tailgate lots and a couple nice bar/restaurants close by.
                      It is kind of a no brainer. They should have agreed to make them all Thursday night games when they signed the contract.

                      Maybe they did and can't actually announce it. I don't know.

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                      • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                        It is kind of a no brainer. They should have agreed to make them all Thursday night games when they signed the contract.

                        Maybe they did and can't actually announce it. I don't know.
                        You know my opinion. If they have six home games in a season I'd vote for four of them to be on Thursday nights.

                        ‚Äč‚Äč‚Äč‚ÄčThose are the only good atmospheres in the funeral parlor known as Miller Stadium.

                        I've long thought D2 should try to take over Thursday night. We will never, ever compete with D1 football for viewers.

                        The crowds are much more lively, etc. And, God forbid, students even attend.

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                        • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                          You know my opinion. If they have six home games in a season I'd vote for four of them to be on Thursday nights.

                          ‚Äč‚Äč‚Äč‚ÄčThose are the only good atmospheres in the funeral parlor known as Miller Stadium.

                          I've long thought D2 should try to take over Thursday night. We will never, ever compete with D1 football for viewers.

                          The crowds are much more lively, etc. And, God forbid, students even attend.
                          Thursday night P-saction

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                          • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                            You know my opinion. If they have six home games in a season I'd vote for four of them to be on Thursday nights.

                            ‚Äč‚Äč‚Äč‚ÄčThose are the only good atmospheres in the funeral parlor known as Miller Stadium.

                            I've long thought D2 should try to take over Thursday night. We will never, ever compete with D1 football for viewers.

                            The crowds are much more lively, etc. And, God forbid, students even attend.
                            A lot of schools love them, but Thursday games hurt attendance at Pitt, so I prefer Saturday games.

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                            • Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

                              When does it all get started?
                              March 22


                              ‚Äč‚Äč‚Äč‚Äč‚Äč‚ÄčAs for the upcoming season, IUP's first three games are on the road. The first home game is Sept. 28.

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                              • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
                                While we suspected it, the Ashland game is now confirmed on Thursday night.

                                Ashland has a tremendous stadium. I'd venture to say it is one of the nicest D2 facilities in the country.

                                There's no track so you are really close to the action. If you plan on doing a road trip this upcoming season this is a good one.

                                IUP took a nice crowd out there in 2018. There are nice tailgate lots and a couple nice bar/restaurants close by.
                                Marking my calendar now. I made the trip last time and as you said, it’s a great DII football venue and atmosphere. I made the drive from Columbus last time so being back in Indiana adds two hours to the trip! Looks like I’m booking a hotel this time.

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