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  • ironmaniup
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    Que the Jim Mora ... Playoffs? Did you say playoffs?

    Good luck

    That's not going to be a real enthused team come Monday. This could go off the rails (more than it already has).

    Seton Hill gave Cal a real test today. IUP probably favored by a FG next week.
    They could easily lose to Seton Hill. And cal. And even others. But there’s a chance they could win both in close games. Like IUPAlum says, like Tomlin tort wins just enough. Now 2 or more additional losses this season you might be able to convince him to retire. But if they get lucky, win out, maybe lose a close one in their first playoff, there’s no way the staff changes. Losing one more close one to Cal ? Well, that’s 7-3, and lots of programs would love to be 7-3, blah blah blah. But I agree the game and all the new rules has passed them by.

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  • EyeoftheHawk
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
    LOL pets heads are falling off in Indiana
    Ha…I think you’re right. And to think, we thought rock bottom was losing to Seton Hill last year. Looks like we’ve found more room to dig.

    Congrats on the win. That had to be a great afternoon for Edinboro on a beautiful day.

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  • EyeoftheHawk
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

    This game is not a 'give credit to the other team, everyone is trying to win' kind of situation. This has to be a watershed moment for IUP football. I think everybody sees that it isn't the players, it is the staff.

    We are now back to the 'slow start' syndrome. Then, because IUP has superior player personnel, they fight back. only to be outsmarted by the opposing team's coaching staff in the final seconds of the game. As an outsider, it makes CULATER look like some kind of genius, but maybe he was just saying what we all feared.

    The similarity of the game-winning TD passes for SRU and Edinboro is also noteworthy. It might not have been the exact same play that Boro used but, like in the SRU game, the opposition ended up with a guy wide open in the back of the same corner of the endzone. Uncanny, isn't it?
    I’m not so sure IUP’s personnel is as superior as some believe. Yes, typically more scholarships than the opponent but not necessarily better. I’m considering the entire player from physical ability to intelligence and resilience. IUP held them to three consecutive three and outs before the final drive when they let Boro march down the field and win it. It’s in their heads now.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    LOL pets heads are falling off in Indiana

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  • ShoNuff
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

    This game is not a 'give credit to the other team, everyone is trying to win' kind of situation. This has to be a watershed moment for IUP football. I think everybody sees that it isn't the players, it is the staff.

    We are now back to the 'slow start' syndrome. Then, because IUP has superior player personnel, they fight back. only to be outsmarted by the opposing team's coaching staff in the final seconds of the game. As an outsider, it makes CULATER look like some kind of genius, but maybe he was just saying what we all feared.

    The similarity of the game-winning TD passes for SRU and Edinboro is also noteworthy. It might not have been the exact same play that Boro used but, like in the SRU game, the opposition ended up with a guy wide open in the back of the same corner of the endzone. Uncanny, isn't it?
    I was saying this on this board about 4 years ago iupgroundhog . The problem is the out-dated stale coaching staff, that believe they can just roll out the football and beat teams because their players are more talented than the other teams. This is not the 1980s or 1990s.

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post
    I’m not going to bad mouth anyone one person here. Everyone is trying to win and I’m sure it was the bus ride from hell back to Indiana tonight. Nobody feels good about it. Saying that though, something needs to change because the pattern isn’t a good one and I fear IUP football (and probably men’s basketball) is closer to mediocrity right now than it is to greatness. Credit to Edinboro for sticking with it and finding a way to win.
    This game is not a 'give credit to the other team, everyone is trying to win' kind of situation. This has to be a watershed moment for IUP football. I think everybody sees that it isn't the players, it is the staff.

    We are now back to the 'slow start' syndrome. Then, because IUP has superior player personnel, they fight back. only to be outsmarted by the opposing team's coaching staff in the final seconds of the game. As an outsider, it makes CULATER look like some kind of genius, but maybe he was just saying what we all feared.

    The similarity of the game-winning TD passes for SRU and Edinboro is also noteworthy. It might not have been the exact same play that Boro used but, like in the SRU game, the opposition ended up with a guy wide open in the back of the same corner of the endzone. Uncanny, isn't it?

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Originally posted by ShoNuff View Post

    But we BOTH know this is not going to happen. Tort is here until he is ready to retire...just like the West Liberty HC Roger Waialae,
    Well, they eventually got rid of Lou Terpper.

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  • IUPalum
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    Originally posted by ironmaniup View Post
    So this is looking like the 4th disaster of a season in 7 years. I suppose then could win out and get in the playoffs, but I bet they don’t
    Playoffs? How the F can you say that damn word when they can't even beat a ****ty Edinboro team? They don't deserve the playoffs.

    What do Tort and Mike Tomlin both have in common?
    Answer: They have both mediocre coaches that haven't won **** without someone else's roster and have been put on a pedestal like they are great. Both are the epitome of overrated!

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by ironmaniup View Post
    So this is looking like the 4th disaster of a season in 7 years. I suppose then could win out and get in the playoffs, but I bet they don’t
    Que the Jim Mora ... Playoffs? Did you say playoffs?

    Good luck

    That's not going to be a real enthused team come Monday. This could go off the rails (more than it already has).

    Seton Hill gave Cal a real test today. IUP probably favored by a FG next week.

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  • ironmaniup
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    So this is looking like the 4th disaster of a season in 7 years. I suppose then could win out and get in the playoffs, but I bet they don’t

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post

    This is exactly right. It’s not going to happen. The relationships run deep in this town and that’s going to trump anything else. As I said back in July, this is largely the same roster that wasn’t that good last year and it’s the same coaching staff. My expectations were low and I’m not surprised this is where IUP is. It’s highly unlikely this AD is going to make any type of move, even if it’s just to change the color of the sideline towels. Todd very much enjoys going around glad-handing and being everyone’s buddy. At a certain level, I can respect that…that he’s visible and is well liked. The problem with that though is when it comes time to deal with something, it makes it that much harder.

    I’m not going to bad mouth anyone one person here. Everyone is trying to win and I’m sure it was the bus ride from hell back to Indiana tonight. Nobody feels good about it. Saying that though, something needs to change because the pattern isn’t a good one and I fear IUP football (and probably men’s basketball) is closer to mediocrity right now than it is to greatness. Credit to Edinboro for sticking with it and finding a way to win.
    Tort is 10-7 in his last 17

    Mediocrity is already here


    He lost to a team with a third of his scholarships today.

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  • IUPalum
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    Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post

    This is exactly right. It’s not going to happen. The relationships run deep in this town and that’s going to trump anything else. As I said back in July, this is largely the same roster that wasn’t that good last year and it’s the same coaching staff. My expectations were low and I’m not surprised this is where IUP is. It’s highly unlikely this AD is going to make any type of move, even if it’s just to change the color of the sideline towels. Todd very much enjoys going around glad-handing and being everyone’s buddy. At a certain level, I can respect that…that he’s visible and is well liked. The problem with that though is when it comes time to deal with something, it makes it that much harder.

    I’m not going to bad mouth anyone one person here. Everyone is trying to win and I’m sure it was the bus ride from hell back to Indiana tonight. Nobody feels good about it. Saying that though, something needs to change because the pattern isn’t a good one and I fear IUP football (and probably men’s basketball) is closer to mediocrity right now than it is to greatness. Credit to Edinboro for sticking with it and finding a way to win.
    If they don't want to change, then it's time the donors start pulling their money!

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  • IUPalum
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    I don't care how nice of a guy Tort is. You repeatedly lose the way he is, you got to get the F out!!! Take the clown show with you!!! The Jim Smith D has had the same damn problems for years! The guy can't adapt, Buh-bye!!! The offense is throwing 50-50 balls to Deabner over and over... Buh-bye!!! The amount of injuries every damn year, send the strength and conditioning coach packing to. He obviously doesn't know what the F he's doing either! So sick of the same **** year after year with this coaching staff.

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  • EyeoftheHawk
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    Originally posted by ShoNuff View Post

    But we BOTH know this is not going to happen. Tort is here until he is ready to retire...just like the West Liberty HC Roger Waialae,
    This is exactly right. It’s not going to happen. The relationships run deep in this town and that’s going to trump anything else. As I said back in July, this is largely the same roster that wasn’t that good last year and it’s the same coaching staff. My expectations were low and I’m not surprised this is where IUP is. It’s highly unlikely this AD is going to make any type of move, even if it’s just to change the color of the sideline towels. Todd very much enjoys going around glad-handing and being everyone’s buddy. At a certain level, I can respect that…that he’s visible and is well liked. The problem with that though is when it comes time to deal with something, it makes it that much harder.

    I’m not going to bad mouth anyone one person here. Everyone is trying to win and I’m sure it was the bus ride from hell back to Indiana tonight. Nobody feels good about it. Saying that though, something needs to change because the pattern isn’t a good one and I fear IUP football (and probably men’s basketball) is closer to mediocrity right now than it is to greatness. Credit to Edinboro for sticking with it and finding a way to win.

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  • ShoNuff
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    Why? He’s had one big season with Curt’s players and it’s been more bad than good since. Time ta go.
    IUPNation I agree with you and IUPbigINDIANS that it is time for Tort and crew be shown the door. I been yelling for at least Tort's good ole boy crew be let go. But as you can see, they are still here. And I believe Tort is super safe. He is not going anywhere.

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