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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

    A lot of very small BFE high schools run it when they don't have a QB or can't spare a player to dedicate to QB.
    Ok but North Alabamastan may not have had any indoor plumbing in 1993 but they weren’t a podunk school in foosball.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    I've always found the best offense to be the one that wins you games. LOL.

    Staying on course, I do think it became evident this year the offense IUP was running wasn't best-suited for its personel.
    I always interpreted that to be a challenge in past years when they had both traditional pocket passers and dual-threat running QBs. Its hard to juxtapose between schemes. Its one thing to have a mobile QB but another to have plays designed for movement.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

    Don't see why an option offense is any more of a gimmick than air raid offenses that toss the ball 45-50 times a game. At least you're getting off the line of scrimmage and doing some run blocking in an option.
    I've always found the best offense to be the one that wins you games. LOL.

    Staying on course, I do think it became evident this year the offense IUP was running wasn't best-suited for its personel.

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  • Ship69
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    It’s not real foosball to me. It’s a gimmick.

    It was also a bit unfair to be playing on their home field. Cheating Southern teams always get the advantages
    Don't see why an option offense is any more of a gimmick than air raid offenses that toss the ball 45-50 times a game. At least you're getting off the line of scrimmage and doing some run blocking in an option.

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  • Fightingscot82
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    It’s not real foosball to me. It’s a gimmick.

    It was also a bit unfair to be playing on their home field. Cheating Southern teams always get the advantages
    A lot of very small BFE high schools run it when they don't have a QB or can't spare a player to dedicate to QB.

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  • Chuck Norris
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    It’s not real foosball to me. It’s a gimmick.

    It was also a bit unfair to be playing on their home field. Cheating Southern teams always get the advantages
    Yeah that was a tough bit of luck having North Alabama make the final, played in their home stadium, when IUP had their best shot at a championship. We’ll never know how that game may have played out on a neutral field.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by Chuck Norris View Post

    North Dakota State also ran it when they clubbed IUP in the 1990 title game. The option was still one of the ruling forces in college football in the early 90s and sadly IUP ran into two of the best to ever run it at the D2 level.
    It’s not real foosball to me. It’s a gimmick.

    It was also a bit unfair to be playing on their home field. Cheating Southern teams always get the advantages

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  • Chuck Norris
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    Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

    I miss Frank's 80's-90's Pro Style Offenses with at least one major bomb for a TD by a strong armed QB during the game

    How they still got beat by a ****ing high school option offense on a god damn fluke pass in the 93 finals still haunts me.
    North Dakota State also ran it when they clubbed IUP in the 1990 title game. The option was still one of the ruling forces in college football in the early 90s and sadly IUP ran into two of the best to ever run it at the D2 level.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by IUP24 View Post

    For offenses to be successful, they need an identity. Whether it's lining up in Power-I, 5-wide and air raid, triple option, etc. They need a system, and something within that system they're really good at. I don't think this offense had any of that. I'm not sure they knew what they wanted to do. And I'm not sure they were any good at anything they tried to do within that system.

    In my opinion, the best IUP offense I can remember watching was in 2017. Their identity was clear: run the football. That team had an embarrassment of riches at running back. But they were able to play downhill in the run game, which set up so much else for Lenny Williams. They would be able to line up in the I-formation and pound the ball with Samir Bullock, Justice Evans, etc., to set up Lenny Williams on a bootleg that he could throw or tuck and run for 25 yards. The ability to just set up everything from how they were able to function in the run game made them so effective.
    I miss Frank's 80's-90's Pro Style Offenses with at least one major bomb for a TD by a strong armed QB during the game

    How they still got beat by a ****ing high school option offense on a god damn fluke pass in the 93 finals still haunts me.

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  • IUPNation
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    Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
    In all honesty, 8-3 is still a good season. Not great, but good. Most PSAC teams would be happy with that.
    It's not good in Indiana.

    It's a disaster.

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  • IUPbigINDIANS
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    Originally posted by IUP24 View Post

    For offenses to be successful, they need an identity. Whether it's lining up in Power-I, 5-wide and air raid, triple option, etc. They need a system, and something within that system they're really good at. I don't think this offense had any of that. I'm not sure they knew what they wanted to do. And I'm not sure they were any good at anything they tried to do within that system.

    In my opinion, the best IUP offense I can remember watching was in 2017. Their identity was clear: run the football. That team had an embarrassment of riches at running back. But they were able to play downhill in the run game, which set up so much else for Lenny Williams. They would be able to line up in the I-formation and pound the ball with Samir Bullock, Justice Evans, etc., to set up Lenny Williams on a bootleg that he could throw or tuck and run for 25 yards. The ability to just set up everything from how they were able to function in the run game made them so effective.
    Looking ahead - and assuming Karst is here -- I think he's actually perfect to run the 'Lenny' offense.

    He's not a gunslinger. He's not going to be by September, either. What they tried to run with him this year was a disaster. It wasn't the right fit.

    Plug him in to the Lenny role, and he could be pretty dangerous. Pound the ball until the defense has no choice but to cheat. Hit the play action passes. Scramble on some roll-outs. He's actually custom made for it. Not to mention he's half a foot taller than Lenny and just as fast.

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  • cage
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post



    IUP going with that power running game in the second half was a breath of fresh air. It looked like the old days. I sure hope that is the primary offense the next four games.
    I would love to see triple option veer out of the flexbone. Pretty successful down here in Lancaster County at the high school level.

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  • IUP24
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    Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    It made myself (and many others) wonder if the simple answer to why the OL played like it did all year was it just wasn't a fit for the Karst offense.

    It's well-documented IUP's OL is massive. Massive, however, also typically means a bit slow. The second half against Edinboro they were basically just told to crush people. That was BY FAR the best that OL has looked all year.
    For offenses to be successful, they need an identity. Whether it's lining up in Power-I, 5-wide and air raid, triple option, etc. They need a system, and something within that system they're really good at. I don't think this offense had any of that. I'm not sure they knew what they wanted to do. And I'm not sure they were any good at anything they tried to do within that system.

    In my opinion, the best IUP offense I can remember watching was in 2017. Their identity was clear: run the football. That team had an embarrassment of riches at running back. But they were able to play downhill in the run game, which set up so much else for Lenny Williams. They would be able to line up in the I-formation and pound the ball with Samir Bullock, Justice Evans, etc., to set up Lenny Williams on a bootleg that he could throw or tuck and run for 25 yards. The ability to just set up everything from how they were able to function in the run game made them so effective.

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  • IUPalum
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    Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

    Congratulations to Houser. 1,000 yards career rushing as a college football player is a great accomplishment. We might have lost a couple games but let's not lose our sense of decency.
    Decency? Took him three years to accomplish that. Since when do we celebrate a three year stat of 1000 yards? Now if that was one season then by all means, you celebrate.

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  • iupgroundhog
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    Originally posted by IUPalum View Post

    Nobody cares.
    Congratulations to Houser. 1,000 yards career rushing as a college football player is a great accomplishment. We might have lost a couple games but let's not lose our sense of decency.

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