You just don’t like the fact I’m correct that the Home Office awards a trophy based on crappy parameters.
They really should award one for men’s sports and one for women’s since most schools have more women’s teams and they affect the final score more…but that would make too much sense.
In a perfect world, you would have to present your Dixon Trophy findings and thoughts to the ENTIRE IUP athletic family.
In a perfect world, you would have to present your Dixon Trophy findings and thoughts to the ENTIRE IUP athletic family.
They might even let you wear a helmet.
Says the fan of the school who gamed this trophy for years with track titles using the same athletes….
How is your tin foil hat fitting?
They should rename it The F**k IUP Trophy. It was set up so we never win it. Didn’t they start giving this out when the IUP Rule went into effect? Hmmmm.
It's true ... you do seem to have MAGA tendencies.
But once again, this is the only time we think about the Dixon Trophy, when you cry about it.
Translation: I ignore the fact my school won it several times by sweeping 4 track categories using the same handful of athletes while our foosball team sucked and couldn’t beat IUP over three decades.
No you are just in denial and trying to “embarrass” me doesn’t work.
IUP is 45-17-4 vs Ship in foosball and 74-44 vs Ship in basketball but Ship was handed several
trophies saying they had a better athletic program? Yeah that’s bull****.
Also your school is pretty scummy to allow banners saying “F**k IUP” to hang at your foosball games. Real classy. Your mediocre foosball team never had to see that while it was getting its ass handed to them at The Cig over those 30 years you couldn’t beat IUP.
This was lifted right from The Home Office in Lock Haven's webpage:
The F. Eugene Dixon Trophy is awarded by the PSAC to the member institution whose athletic program earns the best overall finish in conference championships and/or regular-season play. During the course of the academic year, points are awarded based on an institution's finish in the 23 conference sports.
The first Dixon Trophy was awarded following the 1995-96 academic year. From its inception until 2011-12 an institution's top six men's and top six women's finishes were totaled to calculate the standings. Beginning in 2012-13, the method changed to calculate the average of every sport sponsored by each institution. The Dixon Trophy is named in honor of F. Eugene Dixon Jr., former Chairman of the State System of Higher Education's Board of Governors.
So...this does say it is given out to the "Best" sports program.
When Shippensburg dominated the trophy...they benefitted from dropping the sports they sucked in and got to keep all those Cross Country, Outdoor and Indoor Track titles to booster their average. 50% of their average came from one sport and they just crushed it.
Then the calculations changed and they only won once and then Walk On U won it a lot because they sponsor more sports than everyone else so they can get a pretty good score.
Foosball, Basketball and Baseball for the men and Volleyball (or Soccer) Basketball and Softball for the ladies should get double the award points for winning the Pee Sack. These are the top sports that almost every school plays and they should get a heavier weight in the calculations to offset the track and field loophole. The way this trophy has been calculated has been done two different ways. It needs to be fixed PROPERLY to reward schools who put the effort and the money to win at the big ticket sports and not make it a homage to Pee Sack Mediocrity.
So this trophy is based on the average of every sport's finish.
West Chester and Bloomsburg sponsor 22 sports in total. They have the best shot each year to win the trophy if they dominate the sports that not many schools sponsor.
Ship/Kutztown and East Dennyburg come in at 20 sports.
IUP, Millersville and The Stewies have 19.
Mon Valley U has 18.
Slimey Pebble/The Lake Show and Lock Haven have 17.
LIT AF, Edinboro, and Clarion have 16.
Shepherd and UPJ have 15.
Mansfield has 12.
So how can you give out an award calculated by the average of each sport when many schools don't play a lot of sports in the calculations.
Only 7 schools field a men's tennis team. Only 10 have men's golf and shockingly only 7 have men's swimming. Out of 18 schools.
On the ladies, only 11 play field hockey.
This supports my argument that three sports on each side get a heavier weight in the calculations for winning the title...sports that almost every school fields...to make it balanced and give schools with less sports a better shot.
On the left is the order in the standings for last year based on the bogus way the Home Office calculates...on the right would have been the correct standings based on giving the champions of the 6 most common sports sponsored by each school (3 men and 3 women) double the points for winning the Pee Sack title.
1. Gannon/Gannon (3 Pee Sack Titles, one shared with UPJ in Men's Wrestling)
2. Slimey Pebble/Millersville (3 Pee Sack Titles)
3. Mercyhurst/IUP (3 Pee Sack Titles)
4. Millersville/Slimey Pebble (Zero., Zilch, Nada Pee Sack Titles)
5. Edinboro/Mercyhurst (0 Pee Sack Titles)
6. Walk On U/Edinboro (4 Pee Sack titles, but three of them were track and field)
7. Shippensburg/Kutztown (2 Pee Sack Titles)
8. Mon Valley U/Walk On U (2 Pee Sack Titles)
9. IUP/Shippensburg (3 Pee Sack Titles, 2 were track and field and the other Field Hockey)
10. Bloomsburg/Mon Valley U (0 titles)
11. Kutztown/Bloomsburg (0 titles)
12. East Dennyburg/East Dennyburg (1 Pee Sack title)
13. Seton Hill/Seton Hill (0)
14. Shepherd/Shepherd (0)
15. Lock Haven/Lock Haven (0)
16. UPJ/Clarion ( 1 Pee Sack Title)
17. Clarion/UPJ ( 1 Shared Pee Sack Title)
18. Mansfield/Mansfield (0)
Awarded 36 points instead of 18 in the standings for winning these titles:
So this trophy is based on the average of every sport's finish.
West Chester and Bloomsburg sponsor 22 sports in total. They have the best shot each year to win the trophy if they dominate the sports that not many schools sponsor.
Ship/Kutztown and East Dennyburg come in at 20 sports.
IUP, Millersville and The Stewies have 19.
Mon Valley U has 18.
Slimey Pebble/The Lake Show and Lock Haven have 17.
LIT AF, Edinboro, and Clarion have 16.
Shepherd and UPJ have 15.
Mansfield has 12.
So how can you give out an award calculated by the average of each sport when many schools don't play a lot of sports in the calculations.
Only 7 schools field a men's tennis team. Only 10 have men's golf and shockingly only 7 have men's swimming. Out of 18 schools.
On the ladies, only 11 play field hockey.
This supports my argument that three sports on each side get a heavier weight in the calculations for winning the title...sports that almost every school fields...to make it balanced and give schools with less sports a better shot.
On the left is the order in the standings for last year based on the bogus way the Home Office calculates...on the right would have been the correct standings based on giving the champions of the 6 most common sports sponsored by each school (3 men and 3 women) double the points for winning the Pee Sack title.
1. Gannon/Gannon
2. Slimey Pebble/Millersville
3. Mercyhurst/IUP
4. Millersville/Slimey Pebble
5. Edinboro/Mercyhurst
6. Walk On U/Edinboro
7. Shippensburg/Kutztown
8. Mon Valley U/Walk On U
9. IUP/Shippensburg
10. Bloomsburg/Mon Valley U
11. Kutztown/Bloomsburg
12. East Dennyburg/East Dennyburg
13. Seton Hill/Seton Hill
14. Shepherd/Shepherd
15. Lock Haven/Lock Haven
16. UPJ/Clarion
17. Clarion/UPJ
18. Mansfield/Mansfield
Awarded 36 points instead of 18 in the standings for winning these titles:
Gannon would have still won the Dixon but at least now it would be legit now that every school was given a fair calculation.
IUP, Millersville, Kutztown and Clarion each all jumped in the standings based on this criteria. As they should.
So basically your argument is that schools that have fewer sports should get a better chance because they put all their money into a couple of sports and won't shell out the money to provide opportunities in other sports. Right. Whatever.
So basically your argument is that schools that have fewer sports should get a better chance because they put all their money into a couple of sports and won't shell out the money to provide opportunities in other sports. Right. Whatever.
No worse than your school going heavy in track and field and cleaning up and field hockey that is mostly played by Pee Sack East schools and the whole NCAA tournament is the Pee Sack and NE 10 duking it out. Big Whoop Dee Doo.
I'd like to compare the full athletic budgets of every school...just because you offer more sports doesn't mean you are spending more money overall. How much does it cost to sponsor track and field teams as opposed to a foosball team. What draws more to Seth Grove...foosball or track???
No worse than your school going heavy in track and field and cleaning up and field hockey that is mostly played by Pee Sack East schools and the whole NCAA tournament is the Pee Sack and NE 10 duking it out. Big Whoop Dee Doo.
I'd like to compare the full athletic budgets of every school...just because you offer more sports doesn't mean you are spending more money overall. How much does it cost to sponsor track and field teams as opposed to a foosball team. What draws more to Seth Grove...foosball or track???
It's a laugh riot that you continue to dump on Shippensburg when we've won exactly one of the last eight Dixon Trophies awarded (West Chester has won five in that time frame), and the privates, Gannon and Mercyhurst, appear to be moving ahead recently using their considerable financial resources. You have to be good in quite a few other sports other than track and field hockey to win the Dixon, or we obviously would have won more recently as we've had outstanding teams in both those sports. IUP is a considerably larger school than Ship, so I'd say it's your problem if you're not spending as much or more on sports.
My last word on the subject, but feel free to get in the last word as you always do and, as they say, go out and buy a little cheese to go along with your whine.
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