Transfer Portal '23....

[Fightingscot82]

The days of the giant D1 to D2 transfers are years behind us. Now D1 transfers just go to another D1 (and avoid the bush leagues).

Even 2017 wasn't that long ago but it was a different transfer world. IUP would never get Max Redfield today. Baggage or no baggage.

The only guys you really see coming down are generally those who were D2 guys all along and were completely buried on D1 depth charts. They generally have the right size for a D1 to take a shot but that's about it.

Honestly, with current transfer rules and internet recruiting, I don't think the Cal and IUP teams of yore would have ever happened.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Honestly, with current transfer rules and internet recruiting, I don't think the Cal and IUP teams of yore would have ever happened.

Nope. The transfer rules changed everything.

Frank and the Angelo regime snatched up every stud out there who got in trouble and needed a second (or third) chance. Back then to go D1 to D1 players had to sit out a year, so coming down and playing immediately was much more appealing. Keep in mind, too, the Frank era was largely pre-internet. So, a lot of the 'rap sheets' could be hidden much more easily. Frank and Angelo also had a lot of money to spend.

I watched a lot of IUP teams in the 90s that had so much more talent than the teams they were playing most weeks that it was almost sickening. Frank's rosters were litered with former Big East players -- he had a pipeline of Pitt, WVU, Temple, etc., players coming straight to Indiana.

[Fightingscot82]

Nope. The transfer rules changed everything.

Frank and the Angelo regime snatched up every stud out there who got in trouble and needed a second (or third) chance. Back then to go D1 to D1 players had to sit out a year, so coming down and playing immediately was much more appealing. Keep in mind, too, the Frank era was largely pre-internet. So, a lot of the 'rap sheets' could be hidden much more easily. Frank and Angelo also had a lot of money to spend.

I watched a lot of IUP teams in the 90s that had so much more talent than the teams they were playing most weeks that it was almost sickening. Frank's rosters were litered with former Big East players -- he had a pipeline of Pitt, WVU, Temple, etc., players coming straight to Indiana.

Yeah it seemed like every few years IUP had at least one player who just dominated on the field. Usually a RB but I remember Jason Capizzi out there towering over everyone like the German giant at the beginning of Gladiator. Those pre-internet days were also when a coach would call up his network and say "Hey I've got a running back for you in need of a new home. He's an angel" and like that you get a Temple player. That's how Edinboro landed McDonalds All American Jody Dickerson from Michigan State. The internet era is what brought down the Armenti-Luckhardt era. All of those black eyes were only known because of the internet and social media.

I've warmed a bit on my view of JoePa - but there have been stories coming to light about what the local police were able to bury that would have absolutely blocked his reputation as building the classiest FBS football program in the country. A former neighbor played for Paterno in the 70s and later in the NFL acknowledged that he heard lots of rumors about a player being a serial rapist but nothing came of it. He was just a creep so guys avoided him. His name came out as a sexual predator covered by the local police & media.

[Ram040506]

Yeah it seemed like every few years IUP had at least one player who just dominated on the field. Usually a RB but I remember Jason Capizzi out there towering over everyone like the German giant at the beginning of Gladiator. Those pre-internet days were also when a coach would call up his network and say "Hey I've got a running back for you in need of a new home. He's an angel" and like that you get a Temple player. That's how Edinboro landed McDonalds All American Jody Dickerson from Michigan State. The internet era is what brought down the Armenti-Luckhardt era. All of those black eyes were only known because of the internet and social media.

I've warmed a bit on my view of JoePa - but there have been stories coming to light about what the local police were able to bury that would have absolutely blocked his reputation as building the classiest FBS football program in the country. A former neighbor played for Paterno in the 70s and later in the NFL acknowledged that he heard lots of rumors about a player being a serial rapist but nothing came of it. He was just a creep so guys avoided him. His name came out as a sexual predator covered by the local police & media.

ESPN had a big story about that come out a few years back. It was a good read, and made me think even less of Paterno. Paterno turned a blind eye to a lot of things, which can probably be said of a bunch of coaches from that era. But the things that irks me is the scale of which these 2 massive scandals/cover ups or the acts being covered up. I will always think he was a coward and could have done much more to prevent Sandusky. The Paterno apologists cite him going through protocol and informing his superiors as that was enough. It wasn't, and nobody should accept that as a suitable excuse.

[Fightingscot82]

ESPN had a big story about that come out a few years back. It was a good read, and made me think even less of Paterno. Paterno turned a blind eye to a lot of things, which can probably be said of a bunch of coaches from that era. But the things that irks me is the scale of which these 2 massive scandals/cover ups or the acts being covered up. I will always think he was a coward and could have done much more to prevent Sandusky. The Paterno apologists cite him going through protocol and informing his superiors as that was enough. It wasn't, and nobody should accept that as a suitable excuse.

I worked at Penn State for 9 months 15years ago so I don't have the strongest body of knowledge on the inner workings of their deep politics, but very quickly it was clear Paterno was in his own world. He had clout and latitude to do and say things (or not do things) that was probably reserved for only the president. Its possible (maybe probable) that his staff completed all of his mandatory education on things like Clery Act mandatory reporting, sexual misconduct, etc. because it was widely known he didn't use a computer and that's how it was delivered. Regardless, Penn State brought this on themselves by allowing an 80 year old to run the university's marquis program without any checks on its operations beyond finances and NCAA compliance. And really, if not for Paterno's cancer and the Sandusky scandal, Paterno would have coached until his death. Because he wanted to and nobody would tell him no.

[Boro33]

Not a lot of guys happy with Coach Mack it seems. Couple of them are being quite vocal of discouraging others from playing for Coach Mack and actively encouraging everyone to leave.

That happens often with many players at many schools. Don't read too much into that.

[jrshooter]

ESPN had a big story about that come out a few years back. It was a good read, and made me think even less of Paterno. Paterno turned a blind eye to a lot of things, which can probably be said of a bunch of coaches from that era. But the things that irks me is the scale of which these 2 massive scandals/cover ups or the acts being covered up. I will always think he was a coward and could have done much more to prevent Sandusky. The Paterno apologists cite him going through protocol and informing his superiors as that was enough. It wasn't, and nobody should accept that as a suitable excuse.

This was a really good read. His name was Todd Hodne.

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...-bring-justice

[Ram040506]

Shepherd qb Seth Morgan in the portal.

Don’t let him come back ernie. Let him go, move on.

[Boro33]

Shepherd qb Seth Morgan in the portal.

Don’t let him come back ernie. Let him go, move on.

Word is they are pretty high on Lek Powell. Out of Bishop McDevitt in Harrisburg pa.

[Rams Fan]

Word is they are pretty high on Lek Powell. Out of Bishop McDevitt in Harrisburg pa.

I would have liked to see him have gotten some time this year. Morgan was inconsistent and costly.

[Ram040506]

I would have liked to see him have gotten some time this year. Morgan was inconsistent and costly.

Morgan locks onto one receiver and forgets there are checkdowns. He would have thrown for 800-1,000 more yards if he would just take what the defense gave him. I didn't really get the feeling he vibed quite well with the Shepherd culture there either. Just reading body language, it always seemed forced from the stands. What do I know.

I really hope Ernie doesn't allow him to come back after teams review his film.

[WarriorVoice]

The days of the giant D1 to D2 transfers are years behind us. Now D1 transfers just go to another D1 (and avoid the bush leagues).

Even 2017 wasn't that long ago but it was a different transfer world. IUP would never get Max Redfield today. Baggage or no baggage.

The only guys you really see coming down are generally those who were D2 guys all along and were completely buried on D1 depth charts. They generally have the right size for a D1 to take a shot but that's about it.

Cody Romano transferred from Penn State to Lock Haven for the 2023 season...

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Cody Romano transferred from Penn State to Lock Haven for the 2023 season...

He was basically a practice squad player for four years at PSU. I was referring to the days when we'd see guys who actually played a lot at the D1 level.

[Ram Tough]

I'm perfectly okay with Seth Morgan moving on. He has a good deep ball, and that is about it.

[ShepAlum]

I didn't really get the feeling he vibed quite well with the Shepherd culture there either. Just reading body language, it always seemed forced from the stands. What do I know.

I always worry about this with transfer players. I wonder if there might have been some unspoken vibe in the QB room amongst players biding their time for Bagent to move on, and then Morgan comes in and disrupts the succession.

I’m curious why he left VMI if he helped lead them to their first conference championship in forever, why would he leave—particularly to drop down a level? I’m guessing it was implied the job was guaranteed the following year, and opted to follow his OC to Shepherd—it just seemed odd.