Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[Purple Mav Man]

But I was told that Jamestown would be the worst team in every sport?

Cause you don’t listen well :)

[Purple Mav Man]

The North Star is certainly a level below the NSIC. But they beat Minot convincingly. I think they'll be roughly a .500 team off the bat in the NSIC, which in this league is certainly respectable.

No idea how they’ll do right away, but everyone is beating Minot convincingly. They are 1-17 and have won 4 games total (3 against Brandon, 1 against Mayville). Maybe not exactly a quality measuring stick.

[SW_Mustang]

The North Star is certainly a level below the NSIC. But they beat Minot convincingly. I think they'll be roughly a .500 team off the bat in the NSIC, which in this league is certainly respectable.

That's not bad for a first year program.

[debergfan]

That's the thing I'm most "excited" for. I want to know how their program will fit into the NSIC.


Also I looked it up and Brandon University is a public school in Manitoba - hence why we've never heard of them.

They have to readjust their scholarships, the exceptions at naia won’t be excluded. They can’t do JV schedules like they have. Major adjustment coming.

Massey has Jamestown listed in their rankings. Volleyball is 7th in nsic

Will they have men’s volleyball and men’s soccer next year?

[Purple Mav Man]

They have to readjust their scholarships, the exceptions at naia won’t be excluded. They can’t do JV schedules like they have. Major adjustment coming.

Massey has Jamestown listed in their rankings. Volleyball is 7th in nsic

Will they have men’s volleyball and men’s soccer next year?

I am very far from a Title IX expert, but it also appears they have more men’s sports than women’s (11/10 when counting both men’s hockey teams). With larger roster/opportunity spots as well. May not be an issue at all, but seems to be very different from other schools in the conference.

[4THEPAW]

Jimmies are 18-0 in volleyball.

Whatever that's worth.

even more impressive, they've only lost 4 sets all season.

[Millsy]

I am very far from a Title IX expert, but it also appears they have more men’s sports than women’s (11/10 when counting both men’s hockey teams). With larger roster/opportunity spots as well. May not be an issue at all, but seems to be very different from other schools in the conference.

I don't think the ACHA hockey teams would count against them, since in the eyes of the NCAA, they are considered Club and not Varsity. A lot of schools have club hockey and it doesn't seem to count against Title IX.

[Stanger86]

Massey has Jamestown listed in their rankings. Volleyball is 7th in nsic

Middle of the road, just where I said they would come in right now.

[CollegeFBGuy]

I’ll follow Jimmies VB since we know a young lady that is joining their squad next fall

[debergfan]

Middle of the road, just where I said they would come in right now.

And they will start dropping like I said. The majority of their team is allegedly on full rides with all the exceptions.

[debergfan]

I am very far from a Title IX expert, but it also appears they have more men’s sports than women’s (11/10 when counting both men’s hockey teams). With larger roster/opportunity spots as well. May not be an issue at all, but seems to be very different from other schools in the conference.

I’m not certain which prong they’re addressing. However, if you look at the pending OCR cases, you can find the current cases here: https://ocrcas.ed.gov/open-investigations and all the cases here https://ocrcas.ed.gov/ocr-search?f%5...fullname%3A663

Mankato is an interesting example—it's not athletics-related. Additionally, there’s a group focused on Title IX for high schools and colleges, which you can explore here: https://www.championwomen.org/resources

[SW_Mustang]

I don't think the ACHA hockey teams would count against them, since in the eyes of the NCAA, they are considered Club and not Varsity. A lot of schools have club hockey and it doesn't seem to count against Title IX.

I think Title IX is tied to funding from the federal government. I also think that most university clubs aren't funded by schools. So I think their hockey teams should hypothetically be fine.

The tricky part is, just because a school has an ACHA program doesn't mean it's club. I believe Minot is varsity, if I remember correctly. I don't remember what the rules were with SMSU and the ACHA.

[Millsy]

I think Title IX is tied to funding from the federal government. I also think that most university clubs aren't funded by schools. So I think their hockey teams should hypothetically be fine.

The tricky part is, just because a school has an ACHA program doesn't mean it's club. I believe Minot is varsity, if I remember correctly. I don't remember what the rules were with SMSU and the ACHA.

Yeah, I guess the term "varsity" can take on two different looks in this case. I was using more in terms of being recognized by the NCAA as far as an official sport/counting toward Title IX (ie, Federal Funding), versus how the school looks at it as a sport.

Most club teams are self funded, especially at the ACHA D-II and D-III level. But, some of the schools at the ACHA D-I level do fund their club teams some. Usually it is through student fees and not Federal Funding.

[Millsy]

Yeah, I guess the term "varsity" can take on two different looks in this case. I was using more in terms of being recognized by the NCAA as far as an official sport/counting toward Title IX (ie, Federal Funding), versus how the school looks at it as a sport.

Most club teams are self funded, especially at the ACHA D-II and D-III level. But, some of the schools at the ACHA D-I level do fund their club teams some. Usually it is through student fees and not Federal Funding.

We billeted for a couple of years for the Alexandria Blizzard of the NA3HL. Two of our billets looked at Iowa State, and there were some financial incentives involved in the recruiting process. There have been quite a few Blizzard players that have gone onto UMary, but I am not 100% sure on their funding. Being as successful as they are (and Minot State), I would hypothesize there is some backing by the schools.

[oldyellaHer69]

Jimmies win!