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  • WLU has a huge gap to fill with Luke Dyer leaving in many areas. One of these areas is steals.



    His stats are otherworldly and are listed below. He would have been #1 in the NBA is three different steal statistics.
    He will be missed.


    FYI

    Basketball teams are using data analytics to gain insights into the best winning strategy and the contributions of individual players.
    Topic: Steal Percentage for WLU Players 20-21 season

    Although steals have long been part of the standard box score, it has significant limitations, for it does not consider the following important factors:
    • The minutes that a player was on the floor. One player might get 2 steals in 10 minutes of play, while another gets 4 steals in 35 minutes.
    The statistic Steal Percentage attempts to correct some of these limitations.
    • For example, if a player got 2 steals while playing 10 minutes, that extrapolates to 8 steals in 40 minutes of play. (40-minute game / 10 minutes the player played). If the opponent had 80 possessions, then the block percentage is 8/80 = 0.1, or 10%.
    Here are the Steal Percentage for WLU players in 2020-2021
    Player Minutes Played Avg Min Per Game PF Stl Steals per Min Played StealsPerFoul STLPct Comments
    Luke Dyer 564 24.5 57 51 0.090 0.895 4.56% 1. Steals per Minute Played - Luke (.090) would rank 1st in NBA ahed of Matisse Thybulle (.08) of the 76ers
    2. Steals per Game (51/23 = 2.21) would rank 1st in NBA ahead of Jimmy Butler at 2.02, even though NBA is 48 mins and Luke only averages 24.5 minutes per game)
    3. Steal Percentage (4.56%) would rank 1st in NBA ahead of TJ McConnell at 3.4%
    4 Steal Per Foul would rank Luke 7th in NBA, just after Jrue Holiday at .911
    Owen Hazelbaker 310 13.5 44 16 0.052 0.364 2.60% Tied for 6th in NBA with Ricky Rubio
    Malik Mckinney 436 19.0 63 22 0.050 0.349 2.55% Tied for 7th in NBA with Draymond Green
    Pat Robinson III 619 26.9 38 30 0.048 0.789 2.45% Tied for 8th in NBA with Kent Bazemore
    Evan Conley 65 5.9 8 3 0.046 0.375 2.33% Tied for 12th in NBA with Lonzo Ball
    Marlon Moore Jr. 398 17.3 62 18 0.045 0.290 2.28% Tied for 18th in NBA with OG Anunoby
    Will Yoakum 286 23.8 31 12 0.042 0.387 2.12% Tied for 24nd in NBA with Kyle Anderson
    Dalton Bolon 639 27.8 47 23 0.036 0.489 1.82%
    Elijah Watson 259 11.3 43 8 0.031 0.186 1.56%
    Zach Rasile 345 15.0 31 10 0.029 0.323 1.46%
    Bryce Butler 556 24.2 49 14 0.025 0.286 1.27%
    Ben Sarson 122 7.6 22 3 0.025 0.136 1.24%
    Limitations of the Statistic: Steal percentage can be skewed for players who play limited minutes.
    Here is definition from https://www.basketball-reference.com.../glossary.html
    • STL% - Steal Percentage (available since the 1973-74 season in the NBA); the formula is 100 * (STL * (Tm MP / 5)) / (MP * Opp Poss). Steal Percentage is an estimate of the percentage of opponent possessions that end with a steal by the player while he was on the floor.

    Last edited by Columbuseer; 06-24-2021, 02:57 PM.

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    • WLU releases basketball schedule.
      let the comments begin!

      https://hilltoppersports.com/news/20...-schedule.aspx

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      • Originally posted by Columbuseer View Post
        WLU releases basketball schedule.
        let the comments begin!

        https://hilltoppersports.com/news/20...-schedule.aspx
        Not much to say. Clearly Ben has drank the hard schedule cool aid. Real chance of going 0-3 to start the season and still having to play Fairmont and UC (twice) and Daimen as well as always tough Bowie, Concord and WVS (twice).

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        • Originally posted by Scrub View Post
          Anyone got any intel on the Denbow kid who seems to have left the Charleston team two years ago and is now verbally committed to WLU (at least according to VC)? I haven't really heard anything about the signing.
          Just hope its a two for one deal with his brother Luke. Garrett is a very good basketball player, his brother is a star.

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          • Garrett Denbow is a gifted shooter with a high motor. Probably around 6-5.
            He might be one of the best shooters on the WLU team, based on the stats below (which came from his former team).
            As with all new players, it takes a while to adjust to the pace of the game as well as the emphasis on ball movement rather than one-on-one, dribble drive style.
            The variation in athletic ability among the 15 players is the smallest I have seen on a WLU roster in the last 10 years.
            Everyone is capable of contributing on Day 1. The issue is that there may not be enough minutes.


            Here is the definition from basketball-reference.com:
            • eFG% - Effective Field Goal Percentage; the formula is (FG + 0.5 * 3P) / FGA. This statistic adjusts for the fact that a 3-point field goal is worth one more point than a 2-point field goal. For example, suppose Player A goes 4 for 10 with 2 threes, while Player B goes 5 for 10 with 0 threes. Each player would have 10 points from field goals, and thus would have the same effective field goal percentage (50%)
            • TS% - True Shooting Percentage; the formula is PTS / (2 * TSA). True shooting percentage is a measure of shooting efficiency that takes into account field goals, 3-point field goals, and free throws.
            • TSA - True Shooting Attempts; the formula is FGA + 0.44 * FTA.

            Player AvgMin FG FGA FGPct 3FG 3FGA 3FGPct FT FTA FFTPct 3FGA
            per
            All

            FGA
            3FG% True
            Shot
            Att
            EFGPct True
            Shot
            Pct
            Garrett Denbow 11 16 34 0.471 10 23 0.435 12 12 1 61.8% 43.5% 39.28 61.8% 68.7%
            Viktor Kovacevic
            30.4 51 91 0.56 16 33 0.485 35 52 0.673 36.3% 48.5% 113.88 64.8% 67.2%
            Dalton Bolon 27.8 171 334 .512 68 153 .444 80 89 .899 45.8% 44.4% 373.16 61.4% 65.7%
            Will Yoakum 23.8 73 130 .562 15 45 .333 37 49 .755 34.6% 33.3% 151.56 61.9% 65.3%
            Malik Mckinney 19.0 64 124 .516 12 34 .353 69 82 .841 27.4% 35.3% 160.08 56.5% 65.3%
            Zach Rasile 15.0 55 116 .474 39 93 .419 8 12 .667 80.2% 41.9% 121.28 64.2% 64.7%
            Pat Robinson III 26.9 171 319 .536 37 99 .374 90 118 .763 31.0% 37.4% 370.92 59.4% 63.2%
            Ben Sarson 7.6 20 44 .455 7 23 .304 11 12 .917 52.3% 30.4% 49.28 53.4% 58.8%
            Bryce Butler 24.2 96 193 .497 24 58 .414 32 49 .653 30.1% 41.4% 214.56 56.0% 57.8%
            Owen Hazelbaker 13.5 44 99 .444 18 54 .333 12 22 .545 54.5% 33.3% 108.68 53.5% 54.3%
            Luke Dyer 24.5 46 109 .422 24 70 .343 5 14 .357 64.2% 34.3% 115.16 53.2% 52.5%
            Cmont Montague 34.6 76 187 0.406 32 96 0.333 28 36 0.778 51.3% 33.3% 202.84 49.2% 52.3%
            Elijah Watson 11.3 35 74 .473 1 10 .100 14 30 .467 13.5% 10.0% 87.2 48.0% 48.7%
            Marlon Moore Jr. 17.3 62 152 .408 6 39 .154 31 43 .721 25.7% 15.4% 170.92 42.8% 47.1%

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            • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

              Not much to say. Clearly Ben has drank the hard schedule cool aid. Real chance of going 0-3 to start the season and still having to play Fairmont and UC (twice) and Daimen as well as always tough Bowie, Concord and WVS (twice).
              If they build on the Hillsdale game and continue to pass the ball quickly for a good shot and play half court D like that game, they should be OK. IMHO you only get better by playing teams that can beat you. I have heard that guys have been hitting the weights hard and that it shows. Would not be surprised to see folks bounce off of Patrick Robinson III.

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              • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

                Not much to say. Clearly Ben has drank the hard schedule cool aid. Real chance of going 0-3 to start the season and still having to play Fairmont and UC (twice) and Daimen as well as always tough Bowie, Concord and WVS (twice).
                That's a Joe-type schedule. Certainly different than the Crutch non-con slates.

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                • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                  That's a Joe-type schedule. Certainly different than the Crutch non-con slates.
                  Joe of old, yea, it is. But it seems after 2017-18 were he scheduled Findlay, Ferris and Bowie in three of its first four games, losing all three and missing the NCAA tourney, he learned his lesson. Since then he has started the season with Concord, and WV Wesleyan the last two seasons and scheduled other such luminaries as D3 Westminster among their first four games. Chalking up these early season W's the last two years against less than stellar competition, were was IUP seeded come NCAA tourney time??
                  Last edited by boatcapt; 07-01-2021, 09:17 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

                    Joe of old, yea, it is. But it seems after 2017-18 were he scheduled Findlay, Ferris and Bowie in three of its first four games, losing all three and missing the NCAA tourney, he learned his lesson. Since then he has started the season with Concord, and WV Wesleyan the last two seasons and scheduled other such luminaries as D3 Westminster among their first four games. Chalking up these early season W's the last two years against less than stellar competition, were was IUP seeded come NCAA tourney time??
                    They also played Virginia State, Bowie State and Lemoyne in 18-19 and went to Lemoyne in 19-20.

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                    • Originally posted by Chuck Norris View Post

                      They also played Virginia State, Bowie State and Lemoyne in 18-19 and went to Lemoyne in 19-20.
                      And a home and home sweep of Fairmont State (including giving them a beating in Joe Retton).

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                      • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

                        Joe of old, yea, it is. But it seems after 2017-18 were he scheduled Findlay, Ferris and Bowie in three of its first four games, losing all three and missing the NCAA tourney, he learned his lesson. Since then he has started the season with Concord, and WV Wesleyan the last two seasons and scheduled other such luminaries as D3 Westminster among their first four games. Chalking up these early season W's the last two years against less than stellar competition, were was IUP seeded come NCAA tourney time??
                        Concord is never a cupcake game. They came here with Tommy Bolte, who as a first team All -American. They've also beat WL several times in the past 5-6 years. That's a solid program.

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                        • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

                          Joe of old, yea, it is. But it seems after 2017-18 were he scheduled Findlay, Ferris and Bowie in three of its first four games, losing all three and missing the NCAA tourney, he learned his lesson. Since then he has started the season with Concord, and WV Wesleyan the last two seasons and scheduled other such luminaries as D3 Westminster among their first four games. Chalking up these early season W's the last two years against less than stellar competition, were was IUP seeded come NCAA tourney time??

                          Joe beat Bowie in 17-18. The only time they've lost to Bowie was in 15-16 (after Joe was up 23 at halftime). That's still one of the oddest games I've ever seen.

                          They lost to Findlay and Ferris State to open the season out in Indianapolis and then to Virginia State in a nail-biter a couple weeks later. That wasn't one of Joe's better teams. Ferris State beat IUP by 2 points -- and then went on to win the national title that season. So, they were obviously pretty good.

                          Hard to say how he'll schedule this year. We know Virginia State is one of the games. But, in crossover this year they play at Kutztown and at West Chester, and host Millersville, Shepherd and Shippensburg. So, that's a tough crossover slate this season. He probably doesn't need to take many more 'tough' games and he'll still have a strong SOS.

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                          • Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

                            Concord is never a cupcake game. They came here with Tommy Bolte, who as a first team All -American. They've also beat WL several times in the past 5-6 years. That's a solid program.
                            Hahahaha...OK. The mythology of Joe never scheduling cupcake games and only scheduling tough presists in the minds of some!

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                            • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

                              Hahahaha...OK. The mythology of Joe never scheduling cupcake games and only scheduling tough presists in the minds of some!

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                              • Oh come now...The narative of how Joe always schedules tough are legend on this board...just as is the implication that Crutch never scheduled tough games.

                                There are certain sacred cows on this board. They include in no particular order:

                                1. Crutch only scheduled cupcake games,
                                2. Joe always schedules tough,
                                3. IUP is "loaded,"
                                4. WLU has an incoming recruit who is GREAT,
                                5. The ONLY way to be good in March is to schedule tough in November.
                                Last edited by boatcapt; 07-02-2021, 09:48 AM.

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