PSAC WEST

[IUPalum]

I went to bed early. I do a morning radio show every day...I'm not talking about one specific weekend. I'm talking about scheduling in general. IUP is in a different situation than most in that the hoop teams play in an otherwise empty arena (KCAC). But other schools have multiple teams trying to practice/play inside one fieldhouse. So yeah, there are scheduling issues on MOST campuses. Scheduling is done to get the games played, not to make fans happy.

Went to bed early? You got hammered in the morning, just stop! You make zero sense! All campuses have multiple gyms that they get practices in and games played.

[WarriorVoice]

I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm trying to understand the logic behind the decision (in a league dying to make money and full of many near-broke schools).


To be fair, I've run the numbers in your (their) argument. This is the first weekend crossover schedule and shows the grueling trip from West School 1 (Friday) to West School 2 (Saturday):

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TEAM	Friday venue	Saturday venue	Distance Game 1 to Game 2
Bloomsburg	at Gannon	at Clarion	1 hr 48 mins
Mansfield	at Clarion	at UPJ	2 hr 1 min
Shippensburg	at IUP	at Seton Hill	47 mins
Shepherd	at Seton Hill	at Cal	36 mins
Lock Haven	at UPJ	at IUP	49 mins
Kutztown	at Edinboro	no game
Millersville	at California	at SRU	1 hr 33 mins
West Chester	at SRU	at Edinboro	1 hr 1 min
ESU	no game	at Gannon

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The longest "4-5 hour" trip (as you said) ... is nowhere close to 4-5 hours (as shown above). So, the travel item is a non-factor. These are all short trips -- three of them are less than a freaking hour.

Let's see, what else have we heard?

Extra money to check in to hotels late? No. That is not a thing. Your reservation is held until 2 a.m. and no brand-name hotel in the world charges for a late check-in. So, that's out.

Academics? They are missing classes all day Friday to play afternoon basketball games. So, it's hard to make a case for their academics being so important. That's out.

Make more money playing at 3 p.m. and 5 p.m. on a week day? Obviously, that's out. They (collectively) will sell tremendously less tickets, concessions, etc. It's not even close, in fact.


So, if it's not academics ... it's not travel (as documented above) ... it's clearly not to make more money (way less, actually) ... why in the world would you play at 3 p.m. and 5 p.m. on a Friday afternoon instead of 7 p.m.?

Not one reason given thus far makes any sense. Why not play the games Saturday/Sunday when more fans can actually attend (and spend money)? Our academics also then don't have to miss any class time. You did say it's all about the 'student' athletes.

You're most definitely trying to argue. Look up the definition. You'll probably argue about that...

[Sec10-A-14]

On this crazy time deal Gannon Men had Davis & Elkins play Wednesday afternoon at 5:00 followed by the ladies who played Daemen @ 7:20. D&E at 4hr 20min makes sense on a Wed eve and Daemen at 1hr 45min. It hurt the attendance.
Only 728 showed up for the opener.
Gannon usually draws about 85-90% locals and the 5PM start it a little difficult for the day shifters.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

On this crazy time deal Gannon Men had Davis & Elkins play Wednesday afternoon at 5:00 followed by the ladies who played Daemen @ 7:20. D&E at 4hr 20min makes sense on a Wed eve and Daemen at 1hr 45min. It hurt the attendance.
Only 728 showed up for the opener.
Gannon usually draws about 85-90% locals and the 5PM start it a little difficult for the day shifters.

Correct. Our followings aren't like Duke and North Carolina. People aren't leaving work early (or taking time off) to watch a D2 game.

[bballfan03]

On this crazy time deal Gannon Men had Davis & Elkins play Wednesday afternoon at 5:00 followed by the ladies who played Daemen @ 7:20. D&E at 4hr 20min makes sense on a Wed eve and Daemen at 1hr 45min. It hurt the attendance.
Only 728 showed up for the opener.
Gannon usually draws about 85-90% locals and the 5PM start it a little difficult for the day shifters.

That's only because the womens game was already scheduled and the guys game was a late add on.

[bballfan03]

On this crazy time deal Gannon Men had Davis & Elkins play Wednesday afternoon at 5:00 followed by the ladies who played Daemen @ 7:20. D&E at 4hr 20min makes sense on a Wed eve and Daemen at 1hr 45min. It hurt the attendance.
Only 728 showed up for the opener.
Gannon usually draws about 85-90% locals and the 5PM start it a little difficult for the day shifters.

Also on this note though... Friday girls play Bloom at 11am and Guys play Bloom at 1pm because the volleyball team is hosting PSAC final 4 and PSAC mandated their times of 5 and 730p.

Gannon asked PSAC for permission to move this weekends bball games to another day, in the event the volleyball team hosted. And PSAC said no. Didn't even let them ask Bloom or ESU if they had availability to move.

Pretty ****ty Ass Commisioner

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Two big ones this weekend in crossover.

Millersville at California

ESU at Gannon

[WarriorVoice]

Two big ones this weekend in crossover.

Millersville at California

ESU at Gannon

I'll be interested to see how ESU responds after a tough loss. Having to travel across the state will make it an even tougher test...

[Fightingscot82]

Also on this note though... Friday girls play Bloom at 11am and Guys play Bloom at 1pm because the volleyball team is hosting PSAC final 4 and PSAC mandated their times of 5 and 730p.

Gannon asked PSAC for permission to move this weekends bball games to another day, in the event the volleyball team hosted. And PSAC said no. Didn't even let them ask Bloom or ESU if they had availability to move.

Pretty ****ty Ass Commisioner

And he's a Gannon alumnus

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I'll be interested to see how ESU responds after a tough loss. Having to travel across the state will make it an even tougher test...

Gannon is playing Friday, however, and ESU is not. That should offset the travel item. It should be a good one.

[bballfan03]

And he's a Gannon alumnus

Yes, I am. But I was saying it more in agreement with the IUP guys who were complaining about the PSAC mandating the earlier times on for back-to-back games. This is just another instance. Since the PSAC is going to make money off of vball playoff tickets, they are making Gannon play at 11 and 1, essentially with no crowd lol

[bballfan03]

I'll be interested to see how ESU responds after a tough loss. Having to travel across the state will make it an even tougher test...

I'm not confident in a GU win Saturday. From watching ESU this season, I'd have to say ESU are the favorites in this game. Plus Gannon is still down players, so that alone would make ESU the favorites... I think Gannon may be happy if they can lost by less than 30 lol

[IUPbigINDIANS]

Yes, I am. But I was saying it more in agreement with the IUP guys who were complaining about the PSAC mandating the earlier times on for back-to-back games. This is just another instance. Since the PSAC is going to make money off of vball playoff tickets, they are making Gannon play at 11 and 1, essentially with no crowd lol

Friday 1pm tip.

Lol

Good Lord

[Fightingscot82]

Yes, I am. But I was saying it more in agreement with the IUP guys who were complaining about the PSAC mandating the earlier times on for back-to-back games. This is just another instance. Since the PSAC is going to make money off of vball playoff tickets, they are making Gannon play at 11 and 1, essentially with no crowd lol

I meant the psac commissioner

[IUPbigINDIANS]

I'm not confident in a GU win Saturday. From watching ESU this season, I'd have to say ESU are the favorites in this game. Plus Gannon is still down players, so that alone would make ESU the favorites... I think Gannon may be happy if they can lost by less than 30 lol

If you feel that way, you may also be nervous about today.

Bloomsburg just lost to Caldwell by only (3) points (the team ESU lost to).

The Huskies have also played a tough schedule to date.

Granted, that roaring 1pm workday crowd may take Bloom out of the game early.