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  • Originally posted by Bart View Post
    Hearing Bloom will be eliminating majors in Philosophy, Anthropology, and Physics with the merger. There goes my undergraduate degree.
    Our schools demographic doesn't study liberal arts. They want majors with a direct path to a specific job.

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    • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

      Our schools demographic doesn't study liberal arts. They want majors with a direct path to a specific job.
      That makes it no longer a university.

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      • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

        Our schools demographic doesn't study liberal arts. They want majors with a direct path to a specific job.
        like apex tech ?

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        • Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

          That makes it no longer a university.
          University status is merely about graduate level degrees. Has nothing to do with which programs are offered. I can think of at least a dozen nationally ranked universities that lack programs in those fields.

          I do disagree with how PASSHE does this. They cut departments instead of programs. So you lose the general ed classes too on top of the degree programs.

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          • Originally posted by ironmaniup View Post

            like apex tech ?
            Applied programs. Education, nursing, engineering, accounting, etc.

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            • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

              Applied programs. Education, nursing, engineering, accounting, etc.

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              • Applied ethics can be taught be department faculty. Gen Z has no use for general education requirements. They want more major classes not unrelated ones that simply round them. This is problematic but what they want.

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                • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                  Applied ethics can be taught be department faculty. Gen Z has no use for general education requirements. They want more major classes not unrelated ones that simply round them. This is problematic but what they want.

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                  • Not really. Do you want someone with a dissertation on Kant teaching business ethics or do you want a business professor teaching it?

                    This generation sees college as a white collar trade school. To say it's not is kind of silly. Like saying the water pipes for sale in the local head shop are for tobacco use only.

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                    • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                      Not really. Do you want someone with a dissertation on Kant teaching business ethics or do you want a business professor teaching it?

                      This generation sees college as a white collar trade school. To say it's not is kind of silly. Like saying the water pipes for sale in the local head shop are for tobacco use only.

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                      • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                        University status is merely about graduate level degrees. Has nothing to do with which programs are offered. I can think of at least a dozen nationally ranked universities that lack programs in those fields.

                        I do disagree with how PASSHE does this. They cut departments instead of programs. So you lose the general ed classes too on top of the degree programs.
                        I was referring to a more generic, traditional definition of a "university" that encompasses all different points of view and is based on the concept of academic freedom. When you eliminate all of these traditional academic pursuits you can no longer call it a university in the traditional sense. I get the current classifications that you cite.

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                        • Originally posted by iupgroundhog View Post

                          I was referring to a more generic, traditional definition of a "university" that encompasses all different points of view and is based on the concept of academic freedom. When you eliminate all of these traditional academic pursuits you can no longer call it a university in the traditional sense. I get the current classifications that you cite.
                          Kind of. The classical university is a combination of the Greek schools and protestant seminaries. Neither are relevant in the 21st Century.

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                          • Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post

                            Kind of. The classical university is a combination of the Greek schools and protestant seminaries. Neither are relevant in the 21st Century.

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                            • Here is a Bloom philosophy professor's take on it.

                              https://bunow.com/professor-reacts-t...er-to-provost/

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                              • Originally posted by Bart View Post
                                Here is a Bloom philosophy professor's take on it.

                                https://bunow.com/professor-reacts-t...er-to-provost/
                                Exactly thanks for posting this, Bart

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