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  • I'm not really sure why we're talking about Cheyney all of a sudden. Their departure from the PSAC is not relevant at all to Mercyhurst's departure.

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    • Originally posted by EastStroud13 View Post
      I'm not really sure why we're talking about Cheyney all of a sudden. Their departure from the PSAC is not relevant at all to Mercyhurst's departure.
      Correct. Who gives a F

      They are long gone.

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      • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

        You can rationalize the reason all you wish. But at the end of the day, they voluntarily left the PSAC by shuttering all their intercollegiate athletic programs. You can say it was a good idea and made financial sense all you want, but the bottom line was that it was their decision.
        ...because the other choice was to keep spending money it didn't have and drive the school 6 feet under for good.

        Anyone know the retention rate of Cheyney athletes those last few years? I bet many were one year and gone.....

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        • Originally posted by EastStroud13 View Post
          I'm not really sure why we're talking about Cheyney all of a sudden. Their departure from the PSAC is not relevant at all to Mercyhurst's departure.
          ...because Whataboutism was employed and it didn't work yet again.

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          • Originally posted by Ship69 View Post

            Well, if you're stuck on a sinking ship you have a choice of whether you want to get into the lifeboat or not, but I sincerely doubt you'd chose not to.
            I think their decision to leave the PSAC was the right one. They probably should have made it long before they did. My issue was with the PSAC Commissioner saying that Mercyhurst was the first PSAC school to leave the conference. Clearly that was a CYA move to cover for their lack of preparation. While this board is not the font of all knowledge, the Mercyhurst is going to leave rumor has been bandied about for a couple of years. It's hard to believe the home office had ZERO knowledge until the Mercyhurst press release.

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            • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

              I think their decision to leave the PSAC was the right one. They probably should have made it long before they did. My issue was with the PSAC Commissioner saying that Mercyhurst was the first PSAC school to leave the conference. Clearly that was a CYA move to cover for their lack of preparation. While this board is not the font of all knowledge, the Mercyhurst is going to leave rumor has been bandied about for a couple of years. It's hard to believe the home office had ZERO knowledge until the Mercyhurst press release.
              This is a reach and a half. Cheyney wasn't leaving for another conference, Mercyhurst is. I'm sure that Mercyhurst leaving wasn't entirely unexpected on the part of the home office, but the timing very likely was. I cannot think of another NCAA program that changed conferences with that short of a turnaround.

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              • Originally posted by EastStroud13 View Post

                This is a reach and a half. Cheyney wasn't leaving for another conference, Mercyhurst is. I'm sure that Mercyhurst leaving wasn't entirely unexpected on the part of the home office, but the timing very likely was. I cannot think of another NCAA program that changed conferences with that short of a turnaround.
                Boat is just bored and trying to stir up conversation. This is a pretty stupid conversation lol. He has "issue" with the commissioner saying it was the first PSAC team to leave (CW Post?). Slow season is upon us.

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                • Without analyzing the PSAC bylaws, there should be a documented process for leaving. I have a feeling there wasn't. I'd argue no less than 12 months notice or else a decent financial penalty to cover their dues for the following year.

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                  • Originally posted by EastStroud13 View Post
                    I'm not really sure why we're talking about Cheyney all of a sudden. Their departure from the PSAC is not relevant at all to Mercyhurst's departure.
                    Because boat has a stick up his arse for the PSAC and finds anyway to possibly diminish the conference.

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                    • Would still love to hear if anyone was able to find a game to replace Mercy? Good opp for the PSAC to pick up a non-traditional opponet.

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                      • Originally posted by ESU Warrior View Post
                        Would still love to hear if anyone was able to find a game to replace Mercy? Good opp for the PSAC to pick up a non-traditional opponet.
                        I think the challenge isn't just the short notice, but that PSAC coaches aren't used to scheduling mid-season non-conference games. Throw in trying to avoid a costly away trip especially if one wasn't already budgeted for. I'm always for more playing any college team that you can, even if that means playing the D3 school up the road. D2 doesn't want to play down - but they'll sure as heck play the bottom dweller FCS school down the other road. On short notice, trying to plug a hole from a lost home game should be important when we don't bring in much money. Most fans & parents don't know the difference between Bloomsburg and Brockport football. And in some cases, Brockport may actually be a better opponent.

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                        • Edinboro dropped their schedule this morning. Looks like they swapped their ESU game to the Thursday of Week 0 and added Bloomsburg in Week 3 (where ESU had been). Still open Week 5 where Mercyhurst was, but that gives them an open week before playing IUP for Homecoming. 6 home games

                          Thurs August 29 - East Stroudsburg
                          Sat September 7 - at Robert Morris
                          Sat September 14 - at Kutztown
                          Sat September 21 - vs Bloomsburg
                          Sat September 28 - at Slippery Rock
                          Sat October 5 - OPEN
                          Sat October 12 - IUP
                          Sat October 19 - at Clarion
                          Sat October 26 - vs Gannon
                          Sat November 2 - vs Seton Hill
                          Sat November 9 - at Cal
                          Sat November 16 - at Millersville


                          Looks like they're sticking with the 12pm kickoffs. My son is playing pee wee football this fall so that likely means I'll only see 3 Edinboro games this year - the night games at RMU & Slippery Rock and the IUP game when he'll miss his game for Boro Homecoming. 12pm kickoffs eliminate your fans with kids playing sports.

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                          • Originally posted by EastStroud13 View Post
                            I cannot think of another NCAA program that changed conferences with that short of a turnaround.
                            I would agree that it used to almost never happen. However, it seems like it is becoming more commonplace recently. Stephen F. Austin did it yesterday (with even shorter notice).


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                            • Originally posted by boatcapt View Post

                              I think their decision to leave the PSAC was the right one. They probably should have made it long before they did. My issue was with the PSAC Commissioner saying that Mercyhurst was the first PSAC school to leave the conference. Clearly that was a CYA move to cover for their lack of preparation. While this board is not the font of all knowledge, the Mercyhurst is going to leave rumor has been bandied about for a couple of years. It's hard to believe the home office had ZERO knowledge until the Mercyhurst press release.
                              I think IUP was the first to leave in the 60’s.

                              Then we came back and then Walk In U left in the 70’s until they came back in the early 80’s …both had fleeting aspirations on moving on up…but I think the creation of the state system locked them into the Pee Sack for good.

                              It’s not like Cheyney left..they ceased athletics. IUP and WCU actually left.

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                              • Originally posted by IUPNation View Post

                                I think IUP was the first to leave in the 60’s.

                                Then we came back and then Walk In U left in the 70’s until they came back in the early 80’s …both had fleeting aspirations on moving on up…but I think the creation of the state system locked them into the Pee Sack for good.

                                It’s not like Cheyney left..they ceased athletics. IUP and WCU actually left.
                                I do think that the creation of PASSHE likely had a role. A show of solidarity to all be in both the same system and same conference. I imagine they also recognized that they didn't have the fundraising capacity. Until our schools were terrible at fundraising until the last 25-30 years (they're still not great). But also until the 90s, most of our alumni were teachers making decent middle class salaries. Not exactly major gift prospects or able to create a pay-for-prestige program like most D1 schools have.

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