Fire Rich Wright

[northwest missouri state]

tax didn't say you don't pay to play. as far as i know no one has. anyone arguing against that has created a strawman. what's nonsense is any notion that rich wright has failed because the program lacks funds. our decline started the moment he took the reigns & frankly hasn't stopped.

there may also be an issue with investment, frankly i wouldn't know. but any idea that rich isn't succeeding b/c of it is absurd. long before any of us had heard of nil rich was busy hard at work dismantling what mel built & ad took to the zenith.

[GorillaTeacher]

tax didn't say you don't pay to play. as far as i know no one has. anyone arguing against that has created a strawman. what's nonsense is any notion that rich wright has failed because the program lacks funds. our decline started the moment he took the reigns & frankly hasn't stopped.

there may also be an issue with investment, frankly i wouldn't know. but any idea that rich isn't succeeding b/c of it is absurd. long before any of us had heard of nil rich was busy hard at work dismantling what mel built & ad took to the zenith.

I don't think anyone was claiming that it was only NIL, however, that is a big part of it right now, but if you don't have a recruiting budget, or are operating with less staff, you're giving yourself a handicap.

NW has 9 titled coaches, (probably some variation of full time) including a strength and conditioning coach, and 3 gas
UCM has 11 not including a Strength coach and 5 what they call support
Pitt has 11 including a strength coach and a full time recruiting and director of football operations person, with 3 gas
UCO has 10 and 2 gas
Mowest has 13 coaches that are not listed as GAS and 2 support staff
Hays has 10 listed coaches and 5 gas.

[Wallst]

Looks to me like NW is going all in on AD. With Washburn already acting why wouldn't NW, unless.....they don't want to hurt UCO and Dorrel doing their prep for playoff games. If they announced RW firing, the next question to both the NW AD and Dorrel is when is he coming. By waiting until UCO's season is over, NW keeps their noses clean, Dorrel keeps his clean and the reunion can potentially start.

Now the question would be IF the reunion would happen. I'm sure behind closed doors the initial discussions of "would you be interested" already have. And if Dorrel hadn't said yes I'd listen then NW would have already fired RW. But I'm guessing Dorrel said yes and NW wants to claim the moral high ground.

If not, and NW is just waiting while other teams around the country fire and hire coaches then wow just wow.

[GorillaTeacher]

Looks to me like NW is going all in on AD. With Washburn already acting why wouldn't NW, unless.....they don't want to hurt UCO and Dorrel doing their prep for playoff games. If they announced RW firing, the next question to both the NW AD and Dorrel is when is he coming. By waiting until UCO's season is over, NW keeps their noses clean, Dorrel keeps his clean and the reunion can potentially start.

Now the question would be IF the reunion would happen. I'm sure behind closed doors the initial discussions of "would you be interested" already have. And if Dorrel hadn't said yes I'd listen then NW would have already fired RW. But I'm guessing Dorrel said yes and NW wants to claim the moral high ground.

If not, and NW is just waiting while other teams around the country fire and hire coaches then wow just wow.

It does seem strange that if it were to happen, why wouldn't it have happened by now? Maybe its a moot point, since he wasn't under contract anyways?

[NWFanatic]

If his contract wasn’t extended he wouldn’t technically get fired, just didn’t get his contract renewed. There are definitely some interesting rumblings around the ‘ville.

[southside]

Looks to me like NW is going all in on AD. With Washburn already acting why wouldn't NW, unless.....they don't want to hurt UCO and Dorrel doing their prep for playoff games. If they announced RW firing, the next question to both the NW AD and Dorrel is when is he coming. By waiting until UCO's season is over, NW keeps their noses clean, Dorrel keeps his clean and the reunion can potentially start.

Now the question would be IF the reunion would happen. I'm sure behind closed doors the initial discussions of "would you be interested" already have. And if Dorrel hadn't said yes I'd listen then NW would have already fired RW. But I'm guessing Dorrel said yes and NW wants to claim the moral high ground.

If not, and NW is just waiting while other teams around the country fire and hire coaches then wow just wow.

I would agree. Either UCO can kiss AD Goodbye the minute they lose or RW comes back next year. Anything else makes very very little sense.

[Predatory Primates]

My guess is that NW is busy hiring consultants and putting together a search committee.

[Taxman]

I don't think anyone was claiming that it was only NIL, however, that is a big part of it right now, but if you don't have a recruiting budget, or are operating with less staff, you're giving yourself a handicap.

NW has 9 titled coaches, (probably some variation of full time) including a strength and conditioning coach, and 3 gas
UCM has 11 not including a Strength coach and 5 what they call support
Pitt has 11 including a strength coach and a full time recruiting and director of football operations person, with 3 gas
UCO has 10 and 2 gas
Mowest has 13 coaches that are not listed as GAS and 2 support staff
Hays has 10 listed coaches and 5 gas.

Let me get this straight, the 3 teams with the most gross team personnel failed to make the playoffs. One of the 2 with the least won the conference. You're just throwin ish against the wall at this point. This ain't D1 FBS. It isn't even FCS.

[Taxman]

My guess is that NW is busy hiring consultants and putting together a search committee.

Is there any other way...lol

[Taxman]

Looks to me like NW is going all in on AD. With Washburn already acting why wouldn't NW, unless.....they don't want to hurt UCO and Dorrel doing their prep for playoff games. If they announced RW firing, the next question to both the NW AD and Dorrel is when is he coming. By waiting until UCO's season is over, NW keeps their noses clean, Dorrel keeps his clean and the reunion can potentially start.

Now the question would be IF the reunion would happen. I'm sure behind closed doors the initial discussions of "would you be interested" already have. And if Dorrel hadn't said yes I'd listen then NW would have already fired RW. But I'm guessing Dorrel said yes and NW wants to claim the moral high ground.

If not, and NW is just waiting while other teams around the country fire and hire coaches then wow just wow.

All I've ever heard from even before AD left home is he would never return. There has been no change in that stance afaik. Why would he leave for an inadequately funded and supported program anyway.

[GorillaTeacher]

Let me get this straight, the 3 teams with the most gross team personnel failed to make the playoffs. One of the 2 with the least won the conference. You're just throwin ish against the wall at this point. This ain't D1 FBS. It isn't even FCS.

You can't look at it as a snap shot in time, you have to look at it over the entire time frame. In the 5 years that Pitt has been investing, they have made the playoffs 3 of the 4 years the playoffs have happened. The first year they finished 4th in the conference and lost to 3 playoff teams.

UCM spent year with Lambo at the bottom of the conference, then finished 1st and 3rd,
Hays had a hard time right after COVID, then was easily one of the best teams in the conference by the end of the year in 2024, also finishing 3rd.
MOWEST finished 3rd last year, right above NWMSU,

[Mule4ever]

Ok here goes probably an unpopular opinion. Why would AD come back? Also be careful what you wish for. As a big UCM basketball fan. A great coach went to MU for greener pastures as he should have. He didn't win a lot of games but cleaned up a troubled program. Then he went back to D2 and was not successful at a different program. NW needs to start over. New blood is needed. They are currently the 3rd or 4th best program in conference no guarantees AD will get them back to #1. UCM basketball has not recovered and we are still a year or two away with the current coach

[GorillaTeacher]

Ok here goes probably an unpopular opinion. Why would AD come back? Also be careful what you wish for. As a big UCM basketball fan. A great coach went to MU for greener pastures as he should have. He didn't win a lot of games but cleaned up a troubled program. Then he went back to D2 and was not successful at a different program. NW needs to start over. New blood is needed. They are currently the 3rd or 4th best program in conference no guarantees AD will get them back to #1.

Who really knows what AD is capable of. Sure, UCO is back in the playoffs and conference champs this year, can he sustain. I think he can, but his first few years weren't anything to write home about, but they have gotten better since 2021, just haven't been able to be consistent.

[NWFanatic]

FWIW the main reason AD left is long gone

[Bearcat Moon]

I got it from a pretty good source that the Board of Regents at NW has called an emergency meeting with the topic being Football leadership. So stuff is in the works and we should have a resolution in a few weeks.