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  • Originally posted by zimmy21 View Post

    I'd hope we'd schedule all of the MN schools in turn. Could help programs out
    Yeah, each one of 'em would get a free win on payday against a non-scholly D1.

    Be cool if they'd schedule Augustana in basketball too.

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    • Originally posted by SW_Mustang View Post

      Yeah, each one of 'em would get a free win on payday against a non-scholly D1.

      Be cool if they'd schedule Augustana in basketball too.
      Lol you didn't even win against Valpo, what makes you think you'd beat any other team in the Pioneer?

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      • Originally posted by Stanger86 View Post
        Bemidji placed 13th in all-sports standings last year, are they "a Crookston"? Should they be kicked out of the NSIC for a failure to field competitive teams?
        You speak some truths. The league supports student athletes, meaning the cross country runner is as valuable as a basketball player. We are not a power 5 conference where football generates a tremendous amount of revenue. We are a small group fanatics that follow mostly men's football and basketball. I'm sure the powers to be want competitive teams, but for every intra league win there is a loss.

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        • Originally posted by zimmy21 View Post

          Lol you didn't even win against Valpo, what makes you think you'd beat any other team in the Pioneer?
          Never said we did. But we were pretty competitive against them. Imagine what a BSU or UMD or Wayne would do to a PFL team.

          We've never beaten MSU in DII competition, but we may have a shot if they drop down to non-scholly. Would be like Christmas for the NSIC teams - a win over their old foe on a pay-for-play deal.

          Tis all I'm saying. The PFL sucks and MSU would be the next Drake if they joined. Would be both hilarious and awesome.

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          • Originally posted by SW_Mustang View Post

            Never said we did. But we were pretty competitive against them. Imagine what a BSU or UMD or Wayne would do to a PFL team.

            We've never beaten MSU in DII competition, but we may have a shot if they drop down to non-scholly. Would be like Christmas for the NSIC teams - a win over their old foe on a pay-for-play deal.

            Tis all I'm saying. The PFL sucks and MSU would be the next Drake if they joined. Would be both hilarious and awesome.
            Easy for you to think that, but we'll never know will we?
            Nit sure that I'd compare a whole league off of a 1 win team, yes that's right, they've only beaten SMSU.
            That would be like saying Minot beating a D3 school by a point means the NSIC sucks

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            • Originally posted by Stanger86 View Post
              Bemidji placed 13th in all-sports standings last year, are they "a Crookston"? Should they be kicked out of the NSIC for a failure to field competitive teams?
              Good god. If you can’t tell the difference between a team already in the conference, and one attempting to get an invite, nobody can help you.

              No. Bemidji should not get kicked out. Dumb question.

              Again, Jamestown is not even invited yet. Night and day difference than already being a conference member.

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              • Originally posted by SW_Mustang View Post

                Never said we did. But we were pretty competitive against them. Imagine what a BSU or UMD or Wayne would do to a PFL team.

                We've never beaten MSU in DII competition, but we may have a shot if they drop down to non-scholly. Would be like Christmas for the NSIC teams - a win over their old foe on a pay-for-play deal.

                Tis all I'm saying. The PFL sucks and MSU would be the next Drake if they joined. Would be both hilarious and awesome.
                To be fair, you think almost everything sucks at this point and that's been made quite clear. I can't even keep up with the amount of teams, levels, etc that you have given some negative thoughts about. I don't even think there is anything left that you enjoy, but maybe there never was.

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                • Originally posted by zimmy21 View Post

                  He's referring to just NSIC sponsored sports.
                  Not to give St. Cloud/Bemidji more credit than they deserve but SCSU sponsors 6 Mens sports (4in NSIC), and Bemidji sponsors 5 mens sports (4 in NSIC). Both would not be allowed in D2 if they were in D3 and looking to move up
                  More manipulation of facts. Apparently they offer that major at SSU.

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                  • Originally posted by vikingfaithful View Post

                    The league supports student athletes, meaning the cross country runner is as valuable as a basketball player.
                    Maybe the NSIC office but certainly schools do not. I could go on for days on this topic but simply put there are sports that generate revenue, and ones that don't. There are sports that get more interest than others. There will never be a day when you see football teams tailgating at a cross country meet or pregaming for a womens tennis tournament on campus. I've fought this battle (with some reason added) for over half of my life. It is unfortunate that regardless how much support you give it doesn't always go both ways, but it's just a sad, sad truth.

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                    • Originally posted by MrMustang View Post
                      I'm a "yes " vote all the way !

                      1. They are likely to be as good or better than UMC in every sport except baseball to start out - and UMC was decimated by transfers this year in baseball so who knows. By the way, Gust is a great coach.

                      2. Did you know UMC offers 4 Men's sports ? Once you start looking at this it's amazing. What a joke. If the league is willing to let UMC drop football and offer 4 sports, how is adding Jamestown a step down? It isn't.

                      3.St. Cloud is very poorly run and hemoraging in every way and dropped football. Near as I can tell Jamestown is way more stable. Lots of sports, including football. Nice facilities. Nicer than St. Cloud for the most part.

                      4. And Jamestown is a nice town. No reason it can't be a good addition.

                      5. Not a bad trip for anyone but maybe Winona and Wayne and Duluth. Yeah would suck for UMD, but so what. Long ways for Winona and Wayne, but almost all 4 lanes.

                      6. Near as I can tell solid alumni base.

                      7. I agree they are small and there are negatives too, but overall, they are better than some current members for sure.
                      This was your original that I stated read more like an indictment of St Cloud and Crookston than a pro-Jamestown piece. 4 and 5 were the only ones making a case for them and they weren’t super strong.

                      Your latest post was more pro-Jamestown.

                      Maybe Southwest should join the GPAC that they have so much in common with? Seems to make more sense.

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                      • Originally posted by NSU4LIFE View Post

                        Maybe the NSIC office but certainly schools do not. I could go on for days on this topic but simply put there are sports that generate revenue, and ones that don't. There are sports that get more interest than others. There will never be a day when you see football teams tailgating at a cross country meet or pregaming for a womens tennis tournament on campus. I've fought this battle (with some reason added) for over half of my life. It is unfortunate that regardless how much support you give it doesn't always go both ways, but it's just a sad, sad truth.
                        That would be pretty awesome to see :)

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                        • Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

                          That would be pretty awesome to see :)
                          It truly would be...but you'll never see it. I'm really working on teaching our kids about the importance of supporting those we are close to or are around us as it takes little effort, which is hard when I realize the world isn't like that at all

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                          • Originally posted by NSU4LIFE View Post

                            It truly would be...but you'll never see it. I'm really working on teaching our kids about the importance of supporting those we are close to or are around us as it takes little effort, which is hard when I realize the world isn't like that at all
                            Good on you 👍🏻

                            That would be a program that would be fun to be around. And likely damn successful, in many ways.

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                            • Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

                              Good on you 👍🏻

                              That would be a program that would be fun to be around. And likely damn successful, in many ways.
                              I meant my actual children.

                              Certainly would have applied had the coaching path worked out, haha

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                              • Originally posted by NSU4LIFE View Post

                                I meant my actual children.

                                Certainly would have applied had the coaching path worked out, haha
                                Here’s the problem with a non-face-to-face…ha. I figured you meant your own kids. And that’s awesome that you’re teaching them that.

                                But the second part was meant to be about a program where the teams support each other as in your first post. Probably made it more confusing than I needed to. My bad.

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