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  • Originally posted by UMary1 View Post

    Agreed and need to plug UMary Alum and current San Jose State Head Coach Tim Miles who got his start at Mayville State. You bring the right builder in any program regardless of location anything can happen.
    Hey, I like that guy.

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    • Originally posted by CollegeFBGuy View Post

      Does the wheelchair basketball team get good sponsorship and donation support? I think that’s a cool program and one I could see many supporting
      Not sure. SMSU was one of (if not the) first colleges in the United States built for wheelchair accessibility - so I always thought we kept the program as it's in-line with the school's original mission. Not to mention the history of the Lew Shaver years - the school has a telegram that Reagan sent him.

      It's unfortunately not a program that gets much attention, so I doubt they are getting a ton of scholarship dollars.

      I remember one year when I was a student they decided to host a "try it" event - the team wanted to prove a point that it's a very difficult sport to play. I thought that was neat.

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      • Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

        While that’s an awesome program, that is apples to oranges. Once again.

        How much does it cost to lease the facilities? Travel is a part of the cost and is involved in every sport. Some are more costly to run than others. Hockey is far more expensive to operate than wheelchair basketball.
        Fwiw, bussing around wheelchairs can't be cheap - and it could be assumed that each player would have two since the ones they use for competition are not the same as their daily drivers.

        But yes, I think you have a fair assessment.

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        • Originally posted by vikingfaithful View Post
          There is some correlation between Augustana's attempt to join the summit league in 2018 and Jamestown's desire to become a member of the NSIC, although there are major differences as well,

          AU goal was one conference only as is UJs
          Both are small faith based schools for their ambitions.

          AU wasn't going to get the boot from NSIC. UJ got booted from GPAC
          AU was and is a highly successful D2 program. UJ not so much so in NAIA.
          AU had the benefit of a large progressive city. UJ not so much so.
          AU shrugged off the no vote and started the states 1st D1 hockey program
          UJ If they get a no vote their situation goes down hill from the GPAC

          If UJ is admitted into NSIC, I will be disappointed, although It won't make a huge difference.
          BIG12 and BIG10 recruited the universities they wanted. Why is NSIC not doing that?
          So really there's nearly no Correlation between AU and UJ attempts to move up, other than small private schools.

          The NSIC doesn't have to expand. There are no media rights deals that are causing expansion. Big Ten went and got available markets to grow their TV brand and market penetration.
          The NSIC benefits very very little from adding Jamestown as a 16th member.

          ​​​
          Mavs > Everyone

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          • Jimmies #16 in the NSIC but #1 in our hearts, good luck against Dordt today, be a nice test before we play Mankato next year.

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            • Originally posted by oldyellaHer69 View Post
              Jimmies #16 in the NSIC but #1 in our hearts, good luck against Dordt today, be a nice test before we play Mankato next year.
              Careful, Dordt could be a trap game…

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              • Originally posted by oldyellaHer69 View Post
                Jimmies #16 in the NSIC but #1 in our hearts, good luck against Dordt today, be a nice test before we play Mankato next year.
                I'm happy that Dordt has been able to grow into a decent football program (currently 4-1 this season.) Back when USF was in the GPAC, Dordt was usually a winless squad.

                I don't know if they still have it, but Dordt used to have a cannon on their sidelines that they would fire after the national anthem, and after every Dordt score. The last time I was there to watch them play USF (2010 I think,) the cannon only got fired once.

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                • Originally posted by debergfan
                  I'm interested in hearing the recruiting pitch for incoming athletes at Jamestown. Hypothetical conversation...

                  Recruit: Who are we going to play next year?
                  Jamestown: We're exploring every opportunity, we might join the North Star but the North Star might merge with the Frontier. We'll travel to Montana
                  Recruit: I thought Jamestown left the North Star?
                  Jamestown: Yes, we wanted to play the GPAC schools.
                  Recruit: Will we be able to compete for nationals next year?
                  Jamestown: Yes, we'll be in the NAIA and the following year, hope to join NCAA/NSIC the following year?
                  Recruit: When will we be able to compete for national championship?
                  Jamestown: I think 2026-27
                  Recruit: Will I even be a student? What happens to Men's Soccer and Volleyball
                  Jamestown: We're exploring every opportunity
                  Recruit: Has men's soccer or volleyball applied to any conference yet?
                  Jamestown: Well, we're exploring every opportunity....Men's soccer can play teams in Wisconsin, Iowa, Montana, Minnesota. We'll be fine. Men's Volleyball will play teams from Missouri, Illinois, and maybe even California.
                  Recruit: You're telling me? USC and Stanford will travel to Jamestown for games?
                  Jamestown: Well....
                  Recruit: I can't wait to commit, I can't wait for paint bucket game every year!
                  Jamestown: Did you know our school enrollment is more than 50% student-athletes!
                  Recruit: Will we still have scholarships?
                  Jamestown: Absolutely but unfortunately we're going to lose NAIA 50% and 100% exemptions, now they will be countable

                  All True; but I will add that Jamestown athletic facilities are already better than almost every NSIC school. Currently installing NDSUs bubble. Facilities wise they will impress recruits—- major concern would be low non athlete enrollment

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                  • Augie OC in post-game interview says a student female from Winona hurled a mostly full can of beer at coaches as they entered the stadium. What a waste of beer. She must be one hell of a fan or wasted.

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                    • Originally posted by vikingfaithful View Post
                      Augie OC in post-game interview says a student female from Winona hurled a mostly full can of beer at coaches as they entered the stadium. What a waste of beer. She must be one hell of a fan or wasted.
                      See....send Winona off with UIU and all our problems are solved with no need to add anyone currently
                      Last edited by NSU4LIFE; 10-14-2023, 06:15 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by vikingfaithful View Post
                        Augie OC in post-game interview says a student female from Winona hurled a mostly full can of beer at coaches as they entered the stadium. What a waste of beer. She must be one hell of a fan or wasted.
                        Typical freshman chick…

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                        • Jimmies drop a close one 13-25 but I know we would have caught than can of beer, makes Augie instant rivalry!

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                          • Originally posted by oldyellaHer69 View Post
                            Jimmies drop a close one 13-25 but I know we would have caught than can of beer, makes Augie instant rivalry!
                            Stanger86 please tell him how we report scores. Haha

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                            • Originally posted by NSU4LIFE View Post

                              See....send Winona off with UIU and all our problems are solved with no need to add anyone currently
                              In the GLVC Warriors would once again the best athletic department, just like the good old days. They wouldn't have to go to South and North Dakota ever again

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                              • Originally posted by Purple Mav Man View Post

                                Many reasons regarding volleyball. Coaching would be one of them. Another is no pressure from alumni on the athletic department/volleyball team. No history of winning, like many other NSIC schools. Among many more.

                                I was under the impression Mankato was just over 34, but you may be right about fully funded. I think there are also a ton of factors that go into the Mavs success over the last 15 years, including the Dakota schools jumping up a level and being able to scoop up those D2 level players and build a program. If given the same offer at SMSU and MSU for football, where would you go? Well, maybe not necessarily YOU! Ha
                                We might win a head to head recruiting battle with Mankato 1 of 20 times in football.

                                My understanding is 10 of the schools are now fully funded - without rehashing that whole thing again !

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