Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[Stanger86]

I'd like to know why the 10 lurkers are voting yes for Jamestown?
We had one argument for them to join but it was more so a testament to kick out St. Cloud and UMC

I'm so confused by this

[zimmy21]

I'm so confused by this

Which part?

[SW_Mustang]

I think the only sure yes vote private school for me would be Saint Johns (and Saint Bens)

I would totally be on board with that honestly. I think it would take them a little bit to get competitive, but the history, facilities, and fanbase would be a great addition to the conference.

I wouldn't mind Augsburg or Hamline either since they are in the cities. Ideally, I'd like the conference to start shying away from small towns, but there's just not enough great candidates to fulfill that dream.

[34blast]

My vote is no of course, we have enough teams in the frozen Tundra. I prefer the OOC matchup, or we get a team close to a major city like Des Moines, K.C., Omaha, somewhere south.

[NSU4LIFE]

My vote is no of course, we have enough teams in the frozen Tundra. I prefer the OOC matchup, or we get a team close to a major city like Des Moines, K.C., Omaha, somewhere south.

We all agree (I think) that Morningside would be the best addition, but it seems they don't have interest. I would trade St. Cloud for St. Johns and ditch Crookston. But ideally (though I don't want to lose them) Winona, CSP, Duluth or Wayne leaving would fix it all. 14 for hoops, 12 for football. Go five in Division football games and three cross Division and two OOC games. More OOC basketball. Chefs kiss

[zimmy21]

We all agree (I think) that Morningside would be the best addition, but it seems they don't have interest. I would trade St. Cloud for St. Johns and ditch Crookston. But ideally (though I don't want to lose them) Winona, CSP, Duluth or Wayne leaving would fix it all. 14 for hoops, 12 for football. Go five in Division football games and three cross Division and two OOC games. More OOC basketball. Chefs kiss

If and that would be a very very large if you got Duluth, Winona, or CSP to leave (Wayne is less of an if), you would never see the scheduling method you've proposed. They would simply go silo again because of the simplicity and "cost savings"

[Stanger86]

Which part?

I'd argue I've been the one banging the table the most for the Jimmies, and I've never pushed to kick out UMC and SCSU. The only logical explanation I can come up with is that you thought that MrMustang and I were the same person (I wish I was as cool as him).

[zimmy21]

I'd argue I've been the one banging the table the most for the Jimmies, and I've never pushed to kick out UMC and SCSU. The only logical explanation I can come up with is that you thought that MrMustang and I were the same person (I wish I was as cool as him).

Yeah I think you're overthinking things here lol...confused indeed

My question from post # 53 was a question to the lurkers, you not being included in that since you had previously stated your reasons as faulted as I believe them to be. It was a broad invitation to those who have voted yes to add Jamestown, but have not put forth their reasonings to do so.

[Stanger86]

Yeah I think you're overthinking things here lol...confused indeed

My question from post # 53 was a question to the lurkers, you not being included in that since you had previously stated your reasons as faulted as I believe them to be. It was a broad invitation to those who have voted yes to add Jamestown, but have not put forth their reasonings to do so.

OK yeah that makes sense.

[NSU4LIFE]

If and that would be a very very large if you got Duluth, Winona, or CSP to leave (Wayne is less of an if), you would never see the scheduling method you've proposed. They would simply go silo again because of the simplicity and "cost savings"

Maybe with that attitude....

[zimmy21]

Maybe with that attitude....

Maybe Minot decides it's close enough to the rockies to go RMAC?

[zimmy21]

Still waiting to hear any news on the NSIC meeting. Have they announced a campus tour? It's getting in to crunch time here for the D2 applications

[MrMustang]

I'd argue I've been the one banging the table the most for the Jimmies, and I've never pushed to kick out UMC and SCSU. The only logical explanation I can come up with is that you thought that MrMustang and I were the same person (I wish I was as cool as him).

UMC needs to go for sure. they have never been good

[vikingfaithful]

UMC needs to go for sure. they have never been good

Do you think the folks in the palatial offices in Burnsville care how good a school is as long as they collect a paycheck and scheduling is easy. Welcome Jamestown.

[HardRockin'Nerd]

I cannot speak to however Minot and Mary did in the DAC with Mines and BH for comparisons there.

But not surprisingly, schools that made/make efforts to be competitive remain so. The Mary/SD Mines commitment after years meh isn't the standard for call-ups.

A couple of things here. This is mainly centered around football as I’m less familiar with the basketball situation. Mary was the first to go up from the DAC back around 05. They were a powerhouse/top team in the conference every year. Minot was a mid pack team most of the time but was higher up towards the DACs collapse which I think helped them tag along with USF to the NSIC.

I don’t know what exact comparison you’re driving with lumping us in with Mary on the transitional commitment. It’s a night and day difference in Rapid. I will admit that basketball hasn’t been great especially on the girls side since Felderman was forced out by an idiot AD, but the football programs are worlds apart. SD Mines now is a completely different program from the NAIA/transition days which was the last time we played y’all back in 2011 I believe. Historically, aside from a couple years in the 80s and an outlier in 2010, we were an awful program. Since pretty much my sophomore year back in 2016, we’ve been a competent competitive program which is miles ahead of where we were and far better than Mary. We’ve never had perennial cellar dweller status as a D2. I think with both Colorado Mines poaching engineers and other schools not having academic requirements that winning the RMAC will be rough, but I do believe that a playoff berth isn’t completely out of the question at some point.

I’ll even defend BH here. Since Breske came in, they’ve been getting far better as well. They finally have a staff that can point out to recruits that Spearfish is an objectively better place to be than Chadron, and this is showing in the results as Chadron has fallen off as a program.

Point being, in the end y’all got the worse end of the deal in old DAC teams. Y’all can take Jamestown when the North Star collapses. I’d say we’d take Dickinson, but my guess is that they hop over to the Frontier rather than go D2.