Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[laker]

Football seemed to get better as the season went on. They didnt win but there were many games that were not blowouts and against good teams. I also noticed they were scoring points and the offense seemed improved FWIW

I thought that their QB was pretty good. Lots of yards running- pretty slippery.

[zimmy21]

Give you an inch and you’ll take a foot.

You’re right though, it is silly and non-sensical to push back like that because absolutely nobody is calling for a 3-team league. Many have stated they do not think Jamestown will be competitive (meaning actual wins, not just keeping some games close - vastly different). I’m in the camp that thinks the NSIC panicked and accepted a school they didn’t need to, but to say that people want the non-top 3 banished is…silly and non-sensical. Crookston is about the only school where people have that feeling. And likely justified.

I'll add St. Cloud just because they dropped Football.

[SW_Mustang]

I must be pretty bored - here's a thread update for the stats nerds.

This is the longest active thread that I am aware of (by post count) - courtesy of the PSAC board:

PASSHE Institutions Merging - D2 Message Board

It took them 1,180 days to reach 3453 replies. It took this group 784 days.

They're currently sitting at 4,332 replies - though the thread hasn't been updated in two weeks. That thread has been active for a total of 1,826 days. If we keep up our average of 4.4 posts/day, it will take us exactly 200 more days to reach the same for a total of 984.

We'll get there - I'm sure Jamestown will give everyone a lot to talk about over the winter.

What's funny is that their thread is about an entire consolidation of an academic system in one of the country's most populous states, ours is about a tiny college in North Decoder (and 1400 other things).

[Purple Mav Man]

Different programs have different aspiration, that has been exactly my point since the very beginning.

It feels like most outsiders have been judging Jamestown on championship likelihood, and since they are so far away from building contenders in any program, they are viewed as being unworthy of the lofty Division II and Northern Sun member status.

Since that's the line we are judging on, the NSIC should be a three-program league and the rest of the current members should be banished to Division III or the NAIA. That's the consensus I've been pushing back against. It's silly and nonsensical.

Give you an inch and you’ll take a foot.

You’re right though, it is silly and non-sensical to push back like that because absolutely nobody is calling for a 3-team league. Many have stated they do not think Jamestown will be competitive (meaning actual wins, not just keeping some games close - vastly different). I’m in the camp that thinks the NSIC panicked and accepted a school they didn’t need to, but to say that people want the non-top 3 banished is…silly and non-sensical. Crookston is about the only school where people have that feeling. And likely justified.

[Stanger86]

No Mankato fans on this board are doing that.
Also, not sure this is where an SMSU fan wants to take it 🤣

Different programs have different aspiration, that has been exactly my point since the very beginning.

It feels like most outsiders have been judging Jamestown on championship likelihood, and since they are so far away from building contenders in any program, they are viewed as being unworthy of the lofty Division II and Northern Sun member status.

Since that's the line we are judging on, the NSIC should be a three-program league and the rest of the current members should be banished to Division III or the NAIA. That's the consensus I've been pushing back against. It's silly and nonsensical.

[SW_Mustang]

I took a look at Jimmy Volleyball - NSIC had them ranked #11 in the preseason, they finished #12.

Of note - UJ went 5-15 with 11 shutout losses and an additional three losses with a 3-1 score. They achieved two sets off of ranked/RV teams (MSU and SMSU). In the W column, they achieved one shutout (against UMC) and two 3-1 victories (Minot/Mary). Their biggest win was a 3-2 win over a struggling Augustana squad in the last game of the year.

Not much to say there - the bar was low and they managed to squeak right under it.

I don't remember what my original prediction was (or if I even gave one fully) - but I remember thinking they'd snag a 3-2 upset off of a better team, but that honor went to Bemidji this year.

I still think volleyball is the biggest upside UJ has - but it's going to be a long road to fully realize it, if they even want too at this point.

[Purple Mav Man]

OK, we'll remember that as Mankato celebrates playoff berths instead of championships as well.

No Mankato fans on this board are doing that.
Also, not sure this is where an SMSU fan wants to take it 🤣

[Stanger86]

Still can’t find the moral victory column in the standings…

OK, we'll remember that as Mankato celebrates playoff berths instead of championships as well.

[Purple Mav Man]

Still can’t find the moral victory column in the standings…

[MrMustang]

Jamestown update
VB 5-15 in NSIC, 10-17 overall
MBB 1-1
Men's Soccer 3-9
Football 1-9
WBB 1-0 over naia team
Women's Soccer 2-13-5, 2-11-2 in NSIC

NSIC record 8-35-2 but they were competitive

The transfer portal over the next few weeks should be interesting

Football seemed to get better as the season went on. They didnt win but there were many games that were not blowouts and against good teams. I also noticed they were scoring points and the offense seemed improved FWIW

[debergfan]

Jamestown update
VB 5-15 in NSIC, 10-17 overall
MBB 1-1
Men's Soccer 3-9
Football 1-9
WBB 1-0 over naia team
Women's Soccer 2-13-5, 2-11-2 in NSIC

NSIC record 8-35-2 but they were competitive

The transfer portal over the next few weeks should be interesting

[Millsy]

Boss's makes a sold pie in my experience - though I have heard there can be a lot of variation from place to place. The one in Brookings didn't last very long.

Kind of appreciate how late they're open - lot of places close up before I'm done with whatever I'm doing. The original one has a pinball arcade attached, too!

I didn't know there was one in Fargo until walking by the ice machine on our hotel floor. Sitting by the trash can were some Boss' pizza boxes and I talked the family into hitting them up, of course recognizing the name from the NSIC Show.

[Millsy]

That's good information! We make it to Fargo more than the other spots, but having recommendations all over helps. With all of our travels, we try our best to not hit corporate chains, or at least the really big ones (Green Mill being an example of a smaller chain).

Using maps and reading reviews has brought us to some wild, but amazing places along the road!

I agree, Google Maps has been awesome for finding spots off the beaten path to eat, especially for "safety meetings" before hockey and baseball games. I am always a sucker for some little bar/supper club on the back roads that we travel.

[SW_Mustang]

That's good information! We make it to Fargo more than the other spots, but having recommendations all over helps. With all of our travels, we try our best to not hit corporate chains, or at least the really big ones (Green Mill being an example of a smaller chain).

Using maps and reading reviews has brought us to some wild, but amazing places along the road!

Boss's makes a sold pie in my experience - though I have heard there can be a lot of variation from place to place. The one in Brookings didn't last very long.

Kind of appreciate how late they're open - lot of places close up before I'm done with whatever I'm doing. The original one has a pinball arcade attached, too!

[CollegeFBGuy]

There is a Boss' in downtown Fargo, my wife, son and I ate there one night while my son was in town for a Fargo Force eval. It was good pizza.

That's good information! We make it to Fargo more than the other spots, but having recommendations all over helps. With all of our travels, we try our best to not hit corporate chains, or at least the really big ones (Green Mill being an example of a smaller chain).

Using maps and reading reviews has brought us to some wild, but amazing places along the road!