Should Jamestown be accepted into the NSIC?

[Stanger86]

Not quite to that extreme, but close. They stull do not belong, and nobody in the area outside of Morningside does at this point. If Wisconsin Parkside wants in or Upper Iowa I am all in over Jamestown and Valley City State. Might as well be playing Juco ball.

So basically, you'd rather see our conference die off like the NCC did or the GNAC practically has than to stay afloat in an evolving college sports landscape?

[zimmy21]

So basically, you'd rather see our conference die off like the NCC did or the GNAC practically has than to stay afloat in an evolving college sports landscape?

Evolve, not die. There always were 2 conferences in the Upper Midwest, and if the likes of Jamestown and Valley City State are getting invited I'm sure you can add others of that size and ilk. If anything the Upper Midwest would gain a 2nd Auto-bid from a split and might see the rise of some programs who get the taste for success and can bolster booster money from that.

As far as preferences go I'd prefer the split, then D1, staying put, over adding any more schools just for the sake of "protection"

[njmav1]

At least Bemidji offers football..... If they didn't offer football, I am sure they could offer more sports, like St. Cloud.

Go back to the founding members in 1932, Bemidji, Duluth, Mankato, Moorhead, St. Cloud and Winona. Throw in Southwest and one more (Concordia?) and get to 8.

Augustana over Concordia. Then you'd have all the hockey schools together.

[oldyellaHer69]

It will be a cold day in hell before Valley City State gets invited in. Or MSU and Augie are long gone.

Augie maybe, Mankato no way, cant even win a national title after playing us “crème puffs” all season combined with the cost and Minnesota politics it ain’t happening

[Stanger86]

Evolve, not die. There always were 2 conferences in the Upper Midwest, and if the likes of Jamestown and Valley City State are getting invited I'm sure you can add others of that size and ilk. If anything the Upper Midwest would gain a 2nd Auto-bid from a split and might see the rise of some programs who get the taste for success and can bolster booster money from that.

As far as preferences go I'd prefer the split, then D1, staying put, over adding any more schools just for the sake of "protection"

In order to even have enough schools to be able to split, schools coming into Division II have to first join a current conference.

[njmav1]

In order to even have enough schools to be able to split, schools coming into Division II have to first join a current conference.

The NSIC missed an opportunity to absorb the schools from the Northstar. That would have been enough schools to split and form that new conference. The problem was I don't think all the schools wanted to go the NCAA route.

[zimmy21]

Augie maybe, Mankato no way, cant even win a national title after playing us “crème puffs” all season combined with the cost and Minnesota politics it ain’t happening

The moves are being made. The next wave of realignment is 4 years away. I forsee MSU and Augie invited to the Summit!

[zimmy21]

In order to even have enough schools to be able to split, schools coming into Division II have to first join a current conference.

Pretty clear how it would split...Seems to me 9/7 as of now. If Dakota State makes the move as we've speculated that makes 8, then go ahead and beg Valley City State to join.

MSU, Augie, UMD, Winona, CSP, Mary, Wayne, Sioux Falls, St. Cloud, Mary (floater)

Bemidji, Crookston, Moorhead, Minot, Jamestown, Northern State, SMSU...add in Dakota State and Valley City State then we are tied at 9 a piece. Or you could just do Mary and lose the NAIA schools so it's 8 a piece.

Still Upper Midwest, Still local. Schools that seem to invest in athletics and schools that don't have the resources.

[Tech Boys]

Hate to ruin the fun. A new D2 conference must have 10 active and provisional members. Then there's the 5 year wait for AQ status. And depending on what combination of schools leave for the new conference, some sports could fall below the 6 minimum for AQ.

[laker]

The NSIC missed an opportunity to absorb the schools from the Northstar. That would have been enough schools to split and form that new conference. The problem was I don't think all the schools wanted to go the NCAA route.

I was told this by the president of one of those schools at a football game. His suggestion was that they all go D2 and that way would join the NSIC in some form. But he also said that not all Frontier schools were willing to go D2 and wanted to stay NAIA.

[Stanger86]

Pretty clear how it would split...Seems to me 9/7 as of now. If Dakota State makes the move as we've speculated that makes 8, then go ahead and beg Valley City State to join.

MSU, Augie, UMD, Winona, CSP, Mary, Wayne, Sioux Falls, St. Cloud, Mary (floater)

Bemidji, Crookston, Moorhead, Minot, Jamestown, Northern State, SMSU...add in Dakota State and Valley City State then we are tied at 9 a piece. Or you could just do Mary and lose the NAIA schools so it's 8 a piece.

Still Upper Midwest, Still local. Schools that seem to invest in athletics and schools that don't have the resources.

Not enough. This is exactly my point. If this is on the list of potential outcomes (which I believe is likely), then schools need to continue to join the NSIC in order for it to happen. I don't expect Dakota State to join the GLIAC or the MIAA, so the NSIC is where they will end up.

[SW_Mustang]

The moves are being made. The next wave of realignment is 4 years away. I forsee MSU and Augie invited to the Summit!

Will the Summit even exist by that point? They seem to keep hemorrhaging members.

[Millsy]

If any type of split happens, would MnSCU require the State University schools stay together?

[zimmy21]

Not enough. This is exactly my point. If this is on the list of potential outcomes (which I believe is likely), then schools need to continue to join the NSIC in order for it to happen. I don't expect Dakota State to join the GLIAC or the MIAA, so the NSIC is where they will end up.

If 10 is needed to form a new conference then we will take Northern. That gets the new conference to 10, the NSIC would sit at 6 current with Dakota State gets you to 7 with 6 football playing. Add Valley City State, and Dickinson State to bolster the numbers.

We can wait 5 years for AQ status. With the added free slots for scheduling the new conference can schedule NSIC, MIAA, RMAC, GLVC, GLIAC, GSC, GAC and Independent schools to fill the 2 games out and pump up some SOS and In-Region Games for At-Large spots. 9 Conference games in football, 18 for Olympics. That's perfect.

[zimmy21]

Will the Summit even exist by that point? They seem to keep hemorrhaging members.

As in Hemorrhaging members you mean, Denver? The league lost Western Illinois in 2023 but that really isn't a loss.

The Summit needs Athletic Departments that sponsor a ton of sports, Augustana and Minnesota State help fill those sports that are a little thin. Augustana better than MSU with their Soccer and Men's Tennis programs.