Moving the conversation over to this thread ...
I certainly think it is fair to question the recruiting season up to this point.
As of today, Joe has (10) players on the roster. I'll preface that by saying (10) 'known' players. Perhaps we've missed something, but, that's pretty rare in this social media age.
Nonetheless, as of now, we can only talk about what we know. Two of the players, Dallis and Denzel, are coming off ACL injuries. That's a huge pair of questions marks. We've seen some come back the next season and never miss a beat. Others, like Tommy Demo, weren't the same. Both will be counted on heavily.
Garvin Clarke is by far the surest bet on the roster. He was at an elite level last season when he didn't have to try and be Allen Iverson. When others stepped up, he thrived. He will be one the best guards in the Region this winter.
From there, just about every other slot has question marks.
Dillard and Denzel will be massive boosts (if healthy). Both are big, strong guards and elite defenders.
Ian Herring will be expected to play immediately. He's a legit 6'6" combo guard/forward. Unfortunately, I think we all know where this is going. He will need to add some weight to play at the SF position. As I suspect that is where he will actually play in 24-25, he will be a huge upgrade at the position compared to last season. He's very quick and can shoot. That said, Joe will need to play him there more like a four-guard set, rather than trying to make him play like a traditional forward. He may grow in to that role, physically, but he's not there yet. Joe has already mentioned they will play him all over the court.
Sarp had his moments -- good and bad -- last season. He was a typical true freshman. Sans the other injuries, he would have redshirted. As the deer-in-the-headlights wore off, we saw some good things. That said, he really needs a strong off-season. I suspect his confidence will be much higher entering Year 2.
Anthony Watson signed last year to be the backup PG. He also was injured in camp and redshirted. He should provide a nice depth piece this season. He has nice size for a PG, and played at BC3 for two years prior to IUP.
Under the basket, things get dicey -- quickly.
Damir decided to stick around -- to the surprise of most. Unless a ready-to-go forward arrives, he will be the opening night starter at SF. Obviously, Damir is the polar opposite of the traditional Joe SF. He's not going to be launching treys, etc. But, he can be a pretty dominate rebounder and shot blocker. He has to stay clean, foul-wise, and, his awareness has to improve (i.e. he struggles with cleanly catching no-look passes, etc.). With a good off-season -- and hopefully exiting Joe's doghouse -- he could be a breakout candidate.
McNamara will likely spell Triggs. He was actually coming on last season before he, too, was lost for the season. He's not going to be a heavy-minute player, but he can contribute in bits. He's a really big guy and is hard to move around.
Triggs has the small task of replacing Ethan Porterfield. Very different players. Triggs isn't an outside shooter like EP but he is much faster around the basket and probably an upgrade on the defensive end.
Tyler Grove will likely be a very good small forward in a year or two. But, I don't see him in the mix for this upcoming season.
So, I think the needs are obvious. Joe needs another post player -- one who can contribute immediately (to some degree). I also think they need one more guard for insurance purposes. Those ACL recoveries are risky.
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Originally posted by Cobra Hawks View PostKJ and Petteno won't be returning. Romero-Sanz had to make way for Triggs , simple as that. Might be a decision Joe regrets but time will tell
So, that said:
Joe has (10) guys on the roster.
Just guessing, but, salary cap-wise, I'd say this is the breakdown:
Guard
Garvin Clarke FULL
Dallis Dillard FULL
Denzel Kabasele FULL
Ian Herring (incoming freshman) FULL
Sarp Furtun HALF
Anthony Watson HALF
Forward
Damir Brooks FULL
Luke Triggs (Mercyhurst transfer) FULL
Callum MacNamara (walk-on) WALK-ON (although he could be getting a very small slice by now)
Tyler Grove (incoming freshman) FULL
So, 10 players and 8 equivalencies.
The roster will obviously grow to at least 13-14 players. I'd guess he still signs (2) more scholarship players (perhaps 1 full ride and 1 half ride). The last two spots will be the traditional local tokens (or similar).
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KJ and Petteno won't be returning. Romero-Sanz had to make way for Triggs , simple as that. Might be a decision Joe regrets but time will tell
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostIt's not late. Some of Joe's best transfers in the past have signed in June. There are TONS of players out there.
That said, here's the known roster as of today (10 players confirmed):
Guard
Garvin Clarke
Dallis Dillard
Denzel Kabasele
Ian Herring (incoming freshman)
Sarp Furtun
Anthony Watson
Forward
Damir Brooks
Luke Triggs (Mercyhurst transfer)
Callum MacNamara (walk-on)
Tyler Grove (incoming freshman)
Remaining eligibility but status unknown:
KJ Rhodes
Josh Petteno
It goes without saying the Forward position is extremely alarming as of right now.
The college football OVER/UNDER wins are beginning to circulate. I'm in the mood for a gambling discussion lol
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It's not late. Some of Joe's best transfers in the past have signed in June. There are TONS of players out there.
That said, here's the known roster as of today (10 players confirmed):
Guard
Garvin Clarke
Dallis Dillard
Denzel Kabasele
Ian Herring (incoming freshman)
Sarp Furtun
Anthony Watson
Forward
Damir Brooks
Luke Triggs (Mercyhurst transfer)
Callum MacNamara (walk-on)
Tyler Grove (incoming freshman)
Remaining eligibility but status unknown:
KJ Rhodes
Josh Petteno
It goes without saying the Forward position is extremely alarming as of right now.
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
The KJ situation is unknown (unknown, at least, to us dorks). Same with Petteno.
Petteno was one of the best players on the team the last several weeks. Once Joe quit trying to make him play underneath he really started to excel. I'd actually love to have him back for a full season at his natural position. He is very physical and brings a toughness. As we saw, he can also (as advertised) shoot the ball.
KJ is a WHOLE other discussion.
Keep in mind Joe has only signed three players thus far. Triggs is obviously going to play (start) right away. Joe's already talking about playing Ian Herring at numerous positions (the guard from The Kiski School). Remember, he's a year older than a typical incoming freshman. I suspect he will play right away. IUP beat out a ton of top programs for him. Physically, he's ready to go. We'll see how he transitions. The other incoming freshman ... I surely suspect will redshirt (as per Joe tradition).
I do fear it's a usage thing regarding next year. Joe and Romero-Sanz may not have been aligned. He left. It may not be more complicated than that. I hope that isn't the story, but I'm thinking that's what it may very well be.
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Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
I hope you are right. But he could have also transferred because Joe wouldn’t give him a clear cut idea of what his role is going to be. And given Joe’s history of burying guys, slowly bringing guys along, etc., he just left. Fite knows that, took him, and didn’t think twice. I would not rule that out either.
I could have missed it, but is the KJ eligibility thing decided? You are alluding to him leaving being part of, I’ll call, a “larger transaction.” But what if he's out the door because KJ is returning and he didn’t get confirmation he would be above him in the lineup/rotation? Yikes.
The KJ situation is unknown (unknown, at least, to us dorks). Same with Petteno.
Petteno was one of the best players on the team the last several weeks. Once Joe quit trying to make him play underneath he really started to excel. I'd actually love to have him back for a full season at his natural position. He is very physical and brings a toughness. As we saw, he can also (as advertised) shoot the ball.
KJ is a WHOLE other discussion.
Keep in mind Joe has only signed three players thus far. Triggs is obviously going to play (start) right away. Joe's already talking about playing Ian Herring at numerous positions (the guard from The Kiski School). Remember, he's a year older than a typical incoming freshman. I suspect he will play right away. IUP beat out a ton of top programs for him. Physically, he's ready to go. We'll see how he transitions. The other incoming freshman ... I surely suspect will redshirt (as per Joe tradition).
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Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View PostThere's something we don't know yet.
Fite wasn't taking Romero-Sanz on a whim. There's a reason Joe let him walk.
I know first-hand he (Romero-Sanz) was all pi$$ed he had to redshirt last year -- especially given what that position amounted to (Jack Squat).
We're missing a piece to this story. Hopefully said piece is worth the wait.
I could have missed it, but is the KJ eligibility thing decided? You are alluding to him leaving being part of, I’ll call, a “larger transaction.” But what if he's out the door because KJ is returning and he didn’t get confirmation he would be above him in the lineup/rotation? Yikes.
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I'll say it... Not a chance Romero-Sanz wasn't a better player than KJ.
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There's something we don't know yet.
Fite wasn't taking Romero-Sanz on a whim. There's a reason Joe let him walk.
I know first-hand he (Romero-Sanz) was all pi$$ed he had to redshirt last year -- especially given what that position amounted to (Jack Squat).
We're missing a piece to this story. Hopefully said piece is worth the wait.
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Originally posted by Cobra Hawks View PostRomero -Sanz committed to Shippensburg
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Originally posted by Ship69 View Post
Given that there is no more Mercyhurt and that apparently Gannon and Cal are losing a ton of good players, I would think IUP's prospects in the West certainly look about as good as anyone else's.
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Originally posted by IUP24 View Post
I agree with this overall. Ethan isn't a 1 for 1 replacement. You can replace players in a committee approach, but I'm not really sure they have the committee that exists to even begin to take a bite out of those minutes, points, etc. That said, to your point, the guards will them games. The backcourt is good, and guys will be in the fold who weren't last year due to injury. But I'm not necessarily convinced things will be... better
I'm not asking for them to be a legitimate Regional Title contender. But given the year they had, I think simply getting back to the NCAA Tournament will be a success.
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Originally posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post
I know it’s only mid-May but I don’t like how things are shaping up. You can’t replace Ethan exactly but you also can’t go from Ethan to what amounts to unproven or inconsistent players at forward. With the guards they have they’ll win a lot of games but the lack of an inside presence won’t fly when they play someone that has good bigs, and the better teams will have them. I don’t expect we’ll see a completely different style of play next year but then again, what do I know? I’m just saying six months away from next season I’m a little nervous.
I'm not asking for them to be a legitimate Regional Title contender. But given the year they had, I think simply getting back to the NCAA Tournament will be a success.
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