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This officiating crew obviously hates Joe or was pissed at him. The more he complained the worse it got. Then Joe got the T, well deserved but the call was God awful and Joe had to unleash.
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Here's the thing: this is the least aggressive IUP team in 20 years. WCU plays playground basketball.Originally posted by Scrub View Post
You probably got T'd up. Everybody else did.
IUP fouls - 28
WC fouls - 18
It was a travesty. Total embarrassment for the league to have three idiots officiating a big game.
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Great win for IUP under tough circumstances. Most of the team was in foul trouble for a big chunk of the second half. Heck, I got called for three fouls sitting on my couch.
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Ian Herring !!!!!!!
Where's he been all year, Joe?
Harry the closer !
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And thats even more reason I believe he'll be gone. I think a lot of these players are probably sold on "go here, get your stats up and move up".Originally posted by TheMadLibs View Post
It is. It's also where Gannon's 2nd assistant under Fee went after Fee left. No doubt how Precious got here.
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It is. It's also where Gannon's 2nd assistant under Fee went after Fee left. No doubt how Precious got here.Originally posted by bballfan03 View Post
I feel like Longwood is where Precious came from lol
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I feel like Longwood is where Precious came from lolOriginally posted by gman16506 View Post
And then there is the story of K J McClurg who left California and went to D-1 Longwood and averaged 7 ppg and 18 minutes last year (this year I believe injuries have done him in). Have visited Longwood a couple of times and its a beautiful school but hardly a powerhouse. Point being that potential transfers need to consider the risks involved as it doesn't always work out. It's kinda like Cleve Wright told me once.......men only want one thing and that is to say they played Division One. Women recruits will ask what can your school do for me on an academic basis and do not get as hung up on the D-1 thing as the men.
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Originally posted by IUPalum View Post
Normally I might agree but that arena was packed playoffs and regular season for Joe's whole tenure. Now the the last 3 years there is a significant drop off with yesterday being beyond embarrassing rock bottom. There is far more to this story. Maybe IUP/Indiana can get a reporter to report the news.
It felt like the end of an era.
Maybe it was.
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Ship's two games with them were instructive. The first at West Chester was tied 28-28 at half, and then Ship got obliterated the second half and ended up losing by more than 20. The game at Ship was totally different. For the second year in a row, West Chester came in with a gaudy record and then looked horrible the first half, which ended with Ship leading 46-27. It was so bad that you had to wonder how West Chester was leading the East. Then, unlike two years ago, West Chester did fight its way back into the game the second half, mostly by pressing and hacking, until Ship pulled away late. There were 46 fouls called in that game, and as you said above it felt like they could have called a lot more. It was one of the few times this year when Ship actually got the benefit of some foul calls at home.Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
The Rams won Wrestlemania at the KCAC back on Jan. 2.
It was tight. West Chester hung on at the end and beat IUP, 88-83.
Dallis Dillard played just 21 minutes due to foul trouble (and still scored 22 points).
IUP shot a dismal 6-21 from outside and got beat up on the glass. WCU got 55 of their 88 points from two players in that game (Rodriguez and McCall). They played a ton of guys in that game and subbed like crazy, but the scoring was pretty dominated by just those two. IUP was up 3 points at the half but couldn't hold it.
The game had 53 fouls called in 40 minutes -- and it seemed like they could have called another 25.
I remember Dallis got his third early in the first half and Joe sat him forever (almost half the game as it turned out). Obviously IUP is much, much worse (on both ends) when Dallis isn't on the floor.
I suspect this will be a pretty tight one tomorrow. IUP is due for a good performance. Joe's teams have also historically performed pretty well after they've been written off.
And, when you draw a smaller crowd for a home playoff game than a Saturday morning Youth Soccer game, you've officially been written off.
Like I said earlier, if this is a firm officiating crew, I like IUP's chances. If this crew lets the game go playground, IUP will lose. This team isn't built for a physical brawl.
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Originally posted by Ship69 View Post
West Chester year-in and year-out is probably the most puzzling team in the East. They usually are very talented, but you don't know how it will manifest itself from one week to the next.
The Rams won Wrestlemania at the KCAC back on Jan. 2.
It was tight. West Chester hung on at the end and beat IUP, 88-83.
Dallis Dillard played just 21 minutes due to foul trouble (and still scored 22 points).
IUP shot a dismal 6-21 from outside and got beat up on the glass. WCU got 55 of their 88 points from two players in that game (Rodriguez and McCall). They played a ton of guys in that game and subbed like crazy, but the scoring was pretty dominated by just those two. IUP was up 3 points at the half but couldn't hold it.
The game had 53 fouls called in 40 minutes -- and it seemed like they could have called another 25.
I remember Dallis got his third early in the first half and Joe sat him forever (almost half the game as it turned out). Obviously IUP is much, much worse (on both ends) when Dallis isn't on the floor.
I suspect this will be a pretty tight one tomorrow. IUP is due for a good performance. Joe's teams have also historically performed pretty well after they've been written off.
And, when you draw a smaller crowd for a home playoff game than a Saturday morning Youth Soccer game, you've officially been written off.
Like I said earlier, if this is a firm officiating crew, I like IUP's chances. If this crew lets the game go playground, IUP will lose. This team isn't built for a physical brawl.
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West Chester year-in and year-out is probably the most puzzling team in the East. They usually are very talented, but you don't know how it will manifest itself from one week to the next.Originally posted by TheMadLibs View Post
I do think the coaching generally could be a decider. WCU seems to consistently underperform in February March imo
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Normally I might agree but that arena was packed playoffs and regular season for Joe's whole tenure. Now the the last 3 years there is a significant drop off with yesterday being beyond embarrassing rock bottom. There is far more to this story. Maybe IUP/Indiana can get a reporter to report the news.Originally posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
If things have stayed the same, IUP does well with season passes/season tickets. Some of those passes come from sponsorships, but the average person buys with a single transaction. The same thing happens with high schools when they make the playoffs - attendance actually goes down when everyone has to pay and pay a certain way (cashless). There is a segment of the population (probably more common in IUP's neighborhood) who refuse to go cashless, which doesn't help either. Students are the least reliable spectators anymore. A lot of older attendance was out of boredom and a lack of alternative entertainment. Its almost impossible to be bored anymore as a college student with the entire internet in your pocket and high speed internet everywhere you go.
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If things have stayed the same, IUP does well with season passes/season tickets. Some of those passes come from sponsorships, but the average person buys with a single transaction. The same thing happens with high schools when they make the playoffs - attendance actually goes down when everyone has to pay and pay a certain way (cashless). There is a segment of the population (probably more common in IUP's neighborhood) who refuse to go cashless, which doesn't help either. Students are the least reliable spectators anymore. A lot of older attendance was out of boredom and a lack of alternative entertainment. Its almost impossible to be bored anymore as a college student with the entire internet in your pocket and high speed internet everywhere you go.Originally posted by IUPalum View PostNo other way to put it, the athletic department should be embarrassed by the lack of fans, no band, no dance team, etc. IT WAS A PLAYOFF GAME!!! At best there was 150 fans.
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To add... previous in the game the same player was involved in a double foul with Grove. Grove didn't do anything but it was a way for the refs to grab control of the game. The same Boro player also got a tech after the double foul for taunting the IUP bench after he made a 3 pointer. This kid did all this in approx 9 min of PT.Originally posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
With about 2:30 remaining, IUP was shooting FTs.
After the second one, an Edinboro player put IUP's Bautista Rodriguez in a reverse neck-lock and then threw him backward to the ground.
If it would have mattered, the player would have been ejected. Instead, they gave him a flagrant and it fouled him out. Rather than sit on the bench, he then just walked into the locker room.
It summed up Edinboro's night and season.
IUP's Luke Triggs was about to retaliate but his teammates and Joe quickly (smartly) restrained him. Unlike that dirty player, they at least have another game and cannot get a guy suspended.
Put it this way, if that type of chicken-sh!t cheap shot had happened in January, it would have been an all-out brawl.
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