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[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Here's some off-season babble for the Flock of Joe ...

Pick which 'All-Lombardi' team wins (in honor of Joe each team will have 7 players):


Team 1

Darryl Web
Marcel Souberbielle
Anthony Glover Jr.
Brandon Norfleet
Mathis Keita
Shawn Dyer
Malik Miller


Team 2

Jacobo Diaz
Daddy Ugbebe
Julian Sanders
DeVante Chance
Ashton Smith
Josh Wiegand
Dante Lombardi


The winner gets the All-Edwards team:

Dennis Mims
Rodney Horton
Mike Beckles
DeWayne Anthony
Steve Menifee
Geoff Evans
Sly McIntosh

[IUPalum]

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Wiegand??? YUCK!!! I thought he was a subpar player!

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Wiegand??? YUCK!!! I thought he was a subpar player!

I needed another big. Wasn't ready for Willem. Too soon. Lol.

[IUPTrackMan]

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Wiegand??? YUCK!!! I thought he was a subpar player!

[IUP CRIMSON HAWKS]

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Here's some off-season babble for the Flock of Joe ...

Pick which 'All-Lombardi' team wins (in honor of Joe each team will have 7 players):


Team 1

Darryl Web
Marcel Souberbielle
Anthony Glover Jr.
Brandon Norfleet
Mathis Keita
Shawn Dyer
Malik Miller


Team 2

Jacobo Diaz
Daddy Ugbebe
Julian Sanders
DeVante Chance
Ashton Smith
Josh Wiegand
Dante Lombardi


The winner gets the All-Edwards team:

Dennis Mims
Rodney Horton
Mike Beckles
DeWayne Anthony
Steve Menifee
Geoff Evans
Sly McIntosh

I like Team 1 to beat both teams to be honest. Better overall talent though the All-Edwards team would be tough.

I think you need to add some other names to an All-Edwards team such as Wes Layton and Ayubb Ali and maybe even Keenan Holmes. But maybe I'm just drawing a blank on some of them as I was not overly engaged in the early years of the Edwards regime as I was freshly out of college and rather busy with other things.

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[IUPbigINDIANS]

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I like Team 1 to beat both teams to be honest. Better overall talent though the All-Edwards team would be tough.

I think you need to add some other names to an All-Edwards team such as Wes Layton and Ayubb Ali and maybe even Keenan Holmes. But maybe I'm just drawing a blank on some of them as I was not overly engaged in the early years of the Edwards regime as I was freshly out of college and rather busy with other things.

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I know the Edwards era very well. That would be my 7-man rotation. But, yes, the point guard is a tough call. You had DeWayne Anthony, Wes Layton, Aaron Faulkner, etc. Keenan Holmes also was the West POY as, if I recall correctly, a junior. Gary had some monsters under the basket. Remember Shatee Cooks? One player from that era who had tremendous upside was Badou Kane. Brian Brennan was another very strong player. Fannar was a wrecking ball, too. To bad he left for XMAS that last season and never came back.

I don't know how he found all those guys. Don't want to know, either. LOL. One year their first (8) guys were all D1 transfers. Whole rotation.

Those were physically-imposing teams. The 2002 team won the regional with literally 7 guys. I think by the NCAAs they were only dressing eight and seven played. That team could have beat the 2014-15 team in my opinion. They had 7 studs -- basically 7 starters.

In that hypothetical team, I'd have started:

Mims and Beckles under the basket, and Horton, Evans and Anthony at guard. Menifee and McIntosh off the bench. Sharing the ball may have been an issue. Evans was one of the great, big game, three-point shooters in school history. He was a legit 6'6" shooting guard. Mims had NBA talent and size -- and literally scared people. Beckles was that prototype D2 big man ... he was the Daddy Ugbede build but who could shoot from outside and play defense. He was mead dude, too.

[IUPalum]

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The Edwards era... tough to leave Faulkner and Eric Castorino off that team. I actually forgot Fannar disappeared that last year. I wonder what happned to that Ogar!!!

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Incoming PG Bryce Radford made first-team All-WV. He had some remarkable games and hit some giant walk-offs in big games. Excellent deep shot. I don't see him taking a redshirt. I assume Joe breaks him in as Armoni's backup. He's going to draw Dante comparison's immediately. Very similar players.

Ethan Porterfield had a stellar season. He's already a legit 6'8" and can shoot from all over. He'll need to put some weight on prior to next winter. I watched a lot of film on him ... he's going to be real special down the road. These guys typically fill out during their first 1-2 years. He has the body frame to be a Sleva type by his junior year. He's far ahead of where Sleva was at the same age. He has to develop the rest.

KJ Rhodes is a little more difficult to see current film. Remember he's already a year removed from high school and played this past year at IMG Academy. He's a legit 6'5" shooting guard and, like Armoni was, is more physically ready to go at this level (as of now). The only knock I've heard on him is on the defensive end ... something Joe can coach.

I don't see Joe giving any of them a redshirt year.

I see the Bryce and Porterfield combo very similar to when Dante and Cobo arrived. Luckily Joe can take his time a bit more with both and work them in slowly.

Very strong class so far.

[IUP CRIMSON HAWKS]

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I know the Edwards era very well. That would be my 7-man rotation. But, yes, the point guard is a tough call. You had DeWayne Anthony, Wes Layton, Aaron Faulkner, etc. Keenan Holmes also was the West POY as, if I recall correctly, a junior. Gary had some monsters under the basket. Remember Shatee Cooks? One player from that era who had tremendous upside was Badou Kane. Brian Brennan was another very strong player. Fannar was a wrecking ball, too. To bad he left for XMAS that last season and never came back.

I don't know how he found all those guys. Don't want to know, either. LOL. One year their first (8) guys were all D1 transfers. Whole rotation.

Those were physically-imposing teams. The 2002 team won the regional with literally 7 guys. I think by the NCAAs they were only dressing eight and seven played. That team could have beat the 2014-15 team in my opinion. They had 7 studs -- basically 7 starters.

In that hypothetical team, I'd have started:

Mims and Beckles under the basket, and Horton, Evans and Anthony at guard. Menifee and McIntosh off the bench. Sharing the ball may have been an issue. Evans was one of the great, big game, three-point shooters in school history. He was a legit 6'6" shooting guard. Mims had NBA talent and size -- and literally scared people. Beckles was that prototype D2 big man ... he was the Daddy Ugbede build but who could shoot from outside and play defense. He was mead dude, too.

Okay, I have to admit that I don't recall a lot of the names from the early years of the Gary years. Brian Brennan I do remember, probably because the Browns had a WR by that name a decade or so before.

I was kicking it around today on whom I would select to an IUP men's and women's all-time team. Starting five and maybe say one trey specialist and one defensive specialist type. I guess I would need time to mull it over. I did come up with Mims at center and Webb at power forward for the men. Just too many wings and guards for me to narrow it down. A lot of good ways to go.

For the women's side you have to start with Jahzinga Tracey. Cindy Davies likely at one of the post spots.

Who would you guys select?

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[IUPbigINDIANS]

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No surprise but Dancsecs is transferring.

[IUPalum]

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No surprise but Dancsecs is transferring.

I don't think he would've ever played.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Looking ahead to next season on the ladies' side:

Guards

Mikayla Lovelace (Soph)
Courtney Alexander (R-Junior)
Alana Cardona (Soph)
Madison Kerr (R-Junior)

Post

Lexi Griggs (Senior)
Rajah Fink (Soph)
Maura D'Anna (R-Junior)
Teirra Preston (Soph)



Incoming players

Justina Mascaro (guard, transfer - Delaware)
Josie Smith (forward, New Albany High School)
Maria Cerro (guard, Bethel Park)
* There is a fourth signed but I cannot remember the name ... high school recruit.

[boatcapt]

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No surprise but Dancsecs is transferring.

Joe on Dancsecs when he signed him:

"He's a proven big-time shooter at the international level, and we also feel he can give us depth at the point guard position. Sometimes the transition to the American game takes a little time, but we believe he has a great four-year career ahead of him."

[IUPalum]

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Joe on Dancsecs when he signed him:

"He's a proven big-time shooter at the international level, and we also feel he can give us depth at the point guard position. Sometimes the transition to the American game takes a little time, but we believe he has a great four-year career ahead of him."

Yeah, you could see where Joe thought all those things BUT when you put him next to Foster, Miller, Lombardi, etc, you could see defensively he wasn't close. The game was just to fast for him.

[IUPbigINDIANS]

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Yeah, you could see where Joe thought all those things BUT when you put him next to Foster, Miller, Lombardi, etc, you could see defensively he wasn't close. The game was just to fast for him.

It wasn't a major investment. I think he got a few bucks. Maybe a quarter ride. Worth a shot. He was a summer add. Only so many spots. I'd guess he wasn't invited back.

I think he can play at this level but not here.